My answer is: go for it.

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:

Nope, because we don't translate sidebar elements on the Wikimedia Foundation wiki (we probably should.... but that's for another day ;-) ).

Since only registered users can be benefitted by localized interface messages (there are ways to sneak it but we haven't implemented it). And a i18n related MediaWiki extention was not on that site (you remember Brion rejected). So translation is nice but interface translation is no matter of us currently (sigh). We need to hack it later.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Cary Bass cbass@wikimedia.org wrote:

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I have created [[MediaWiki:Blogtext]] and [[MediaWiki:Blog-url]] to the WMF wiki. Shall I wait until [[MediaWiki:Blogtext]] is translated into multiple languages before I add this to the places where Jay is asking me to?

Cary

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Subject: WMF wiki updates Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:02:14 -0700 From: Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org Reply-To: jwalsh@wikimedia.org Organization: Wikimedia Foundation To: Cary Bass cbass@wikimedia.org

Cary, when you get a chance please update the WMF wiki tool system.

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home

We still need a 'Wikimedia blog' link on the left-hand menu under 'about wikimedia'

And at the very bottom of the page, in the bar with the 'A wikimedia project' logo, please also add a "Wikimedia blog" link between the "About Wikimedia Foundation" and "Disclaimers" link.

Thanks!

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2008/4/29 Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com:

Hmm, I think we could manage it if we changed our {{***Lang}} templates a little bit. See for example what we do with Wikimania 2008 wiki: http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (try clicking on the different language links and see what happens to the interface).

The problem with that is that unless you encode all links with &uselang=XX, the interface will "jump" back to default (English) after just one click. It could be argued that that effect is disorienting, confusing and unexpected (there is no clear way to understand "what you did" to make the localised text disappear, nor "how to get it back").

So, IMO that is a very poor hack that is no substitute for a proper solution. (We tried to confront this problem at Commons. :) No good solution yet. More tech is needed.)

cheers, Brianna

I completely agree, but I think that's actually what Brion denied http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12604. If someone knows more about the extension and can sell it pretty well to Brion, please do! :-)

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Jon Harald Søby jhsoby@gmail.com wrote:

On Betawiki we have the link encoding ?setlang= which changes the language until you setlang something else. But that doesn't work on other wikis, but would be a nice feature. Especially useful for Commons links from local projects.

2008/4/29 Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher@gmail.com:

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2008/4/29 Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com:

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Hmm, I think we could manage it if we changed our {{***Lang}} templates a little bit. See for example what we do with Wikimania 2008 wiki: http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (try clicking on the different language links and see what happens to the interface).

The problem with that is that unless you encode all links with &uselang=XX, the interface will "jump" back to default (English) after just one click. It could be argued that that effect is disorienting, confusing and unexpected (there is no clear way to understand "what you did" to make the localised text disappear, nor "how to get it back").

So, IMO that is a very poor hack that is no substitute for a proper solution. (We tried to confront this problem at Commons. :) No good solution yet. More tech is needed.)

cheers, Brianna

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