The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2019/05
Direct translation link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=pag...
I plan to send the newsletter on Monday afternoon (UTC), i.e. Monday morning PT. The existing translations will be posted on the wikis in that language. Deadlines: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/For_contributors#The_deadlines
There may be a more edits by Friday but the existing content should generally remain fairly stable. I will let you know on Friday in any case.
Let me know if you have any questions, comments or concerns. As always, we appreciate your help and feedback.
(If you haven't translated Tech News previously, see this email: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2017-January/003773.html
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One item might be fixed before the newsletter goes out. In order to not have outdated info or have to ask you to retranslate, I've added a brief item we can use instead if it's fixed; I'll remove the incorrect one before sending out the newsletter on Monday.
//Johan Jönsson --
Hi,
I have remarks regarding the newsletter.
(1) ‘The Wikimedia servers use HHVM to run the PHP code. They are going to use PHP7 instead.’ → Does this mean PHP7 will be installed (so this is an upgrade of PHP) and HHVM will no longer be used? If it’s not the case, what does ‘instead’ refer to?
(2) Do the two problems talk about the same thing? It looks like it’s so, but the first one is not fixed while the second one is fixed. ‘When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page is deleted.’ → Is the page that is moved which is deleted?
Sylvain Chiron
Le 24/01/2019 à 16:51, Johan Jönsson a écrit :
The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2019/05
Direct translation link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=pag...
I plan to send the newsletter on Monday afternoon (UTC), i.e. Monday morning PT. The existing translations will be posted on the wikis in that language. Deadlines: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/For_contributors#The_deadlines
There may be a more edits by Friday but the existing content should generally remain fairly stable. I will let you know on Friday in any case.
Let me know if you have any questions, comments or concerns. As always, we appreciate your help and feedback.
(If you haven't translated Tech News previously, see this email: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2017-January/003773.html
If I can help you with anything, please ask!)
One item might be fixed before the newsletter goes out. In order to not have outdated info or have to ask you to retranslate, I've added a brief item we can use instead if it's fixed; I'll remove the incorrect one before sending out the newsletter on Monday.
//Johan Jönsson
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 12:22 AM Sylvain Chiron chironsylvain@orange.fr wrote:
Hi,
I have remarks regarding the newsletter.
(1) ‘The Wikimedia servers use HHVM to run the PHP code. They are going to use PHP7 instead.’ → Does this mean PHP7 will be installed (so this is an upgrade of PHP) and HHVM will no longer be used? If it’s not the case, what does ‘instead’ refer to?
It does – the maintainers of HHVM will not maintain PHP language compatibility: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technology/Annual_Plans/FY2019/TEC4...
Do you think it needs to be clarified?
(2) Do the two problems talk about the same thing? It looks like it’s so, but the first one is not fixed while the second one is fixed. ‘When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page is deleted.’ → Is the page that is moved which is deleted?
Indeed. Towards the bottom of my email I wrote this:
One item might be fixed before the newsletter goes out. In order to not have outdated info or have to ask you to retranslate, I've added a brief item we can use instead if it's fixed; I'll remove the incorrect one before sending out the newsletter on Monday.
Should have put it at the top, there's no reason for you to read to the bottom of something you see every week, of course. Do tell me if you think I should have a different approach in cases like these – my assumption was that translating another few sentences from the beginning is less work than potentially going back later, or less annoying than having your translation become outdated.
//Johan Jönsson --
Le 25/01/2019 à 01:33, Johan Jönsson a écrit :
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 12:22 AM Sylvain Chiron chironsylvain@orange.fr wrote:
(1) ‘The Wikimedia servers use HHVM to run the PHP code. They are going to use PHP7 instead.’ → Does this mean PHP7 will be installed (so this is an upgrade of PHP) and HHVM will no longer be used? If it’s not the case, what does ‘instead’ refer to?
It does – the maintainers of HHVM will not maintain PHP language compatibility: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technology/Annual_Plans/FY2019/TEC4...
Oh, yeah, I should have explored the link…
Do you think it needs to be clarified?
Indeed, as I suspected it described the architecture and then talked only about a single software layer. In French I preferred to be clearer and wrote: ‘The Wikimedia servers currently use HHVM to run the PHP code. They are going to use PHP7, which will substitute the use of HHVM.’
(2) Do the two problems talk about the same thing? It looks like it’s so, but the first one is not fixed while the second one is fixed. ‘When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page is deleted.’ → Is the page that is moved which is deleted?
Here, I’m pointing that in the sentence ‘When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page is deleted’, we read that ‘that page’ which ‘is deleted’ is the page which is moved, whereas it should be the page that formerly had the new name of the page.
Indeed. Towards the bottom of my email I wrote this:
One item might be fixed before the newsletter goes out. In order to not have outdated info or have to ask you to retranslate, I've added a brief item we can use instead if it's fixed; I'll remove the incorrect one before sending out the newsletter on Monday.
Should have put it at the top, there's no reason for you to read to the bottom of something you see every week, of course.
Yep. You could put such special notes just below the direct translation link, and/or put ‘SPECIAL NOTE:’ before it, in uppercase letters, so that it catches our attention.
Do tell me if you think I should have a different approach in cases like these – my assumption was that translating another few sentences from the beginning is less work than potentially going back later, or less annoying than having your translation become outdated.
It’s okay — :).
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 4:37 PM Sylvain Chiron chironsylvain@orange.fr wrote:
Le 25/01/2019 à 01:33, Johan Jönsson a écrit :
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 12:22 AM Sylvain Chiron chironsylvain@orange.fr wrote:
(1) ‘The Wikimedia servers use HHVM to run the PHP code. They are going to use PHP7 instead.’ → Does this mean PHP7 will be installed (so this is an upgrade of PHP) and HHVM will no longer be used? If it’s not the case, what does ‘instead’ refer to?
It does – the maintainers of HHVM will not maintain PHP language compatibility: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technology/Annual_Plans/FY2019/TEC4...
Oh, yeah, I should have explored the link…
Do you think it needs to be clarified?
Indeed, as I suspected it described the architecture and then talked only about a single software layer. In French I preferred to be clearer and wrote: ‘The Wikimedia servers currently use HHVM to run the PHP code. They are going to use PHP7, which will substitute the use of HHVM.’
Clarified. (No need to retranslate.)
(2) Do the two problems talk about the same thing? It looks like it’s so, but the first one is not fixed while the second one is fixed. ‘When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page is deleted.’ → Is the page that is moved which is deleted?
Here, I’m pointing that in the sentence ‘When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page is deleted’, we read that ‘that page’ which ‘is deleted’ is the page which is moved, whereas it should be the page that formerly had the new name of the page.
Clarified. (No need to retranslate.)
Indeed. Towards the bottom of my email I wrote this:
One item might be fixed before the newsletter goes out. In order to not have outdated info or have to ask you to retranslate, I've added a brief item we can use instead if it's fixed; I'll remove the incorrect one before sending out the newsletter on Monday.
This has now been fixed; only one of the two items remains.
//Johan Jönsson --
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 4:51 PM Johan Jönsson jjonsson@wikimedia.org wrote:
The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2019/05
Direct translation link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=pag...
I plan to send the newsletter on Monday afternoon (UTC), i.e. Monday morning PT. The existing translations will be posted on the wikis in that language. Deadlines: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/For_contributors#The_deadlines
There may be a more edits by Friday but the existing content should generally remain fairly stable. I will let you know on Friday in any case.
Let me know if you have any questions, comments or concerns. As always, we appreciate your help and feedback.
(If you haven't translated Tech News previously, see this email: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2017-January/003773.html
If I can help you with anything, please ask!)
One item might be fixed before the newsletter goes out. In order to not have outdated info or have to ask you to retranslate, I've added a brief item we can use instead if it's fixed; I'll remove the incorrect one before sending out the newsletter on Monday.
//Johan Jönsson
The text of the newsletter is now final. No new items have been added since yesterday. There won't be any more changes; you can translate safely.
//Johan Jönsson --
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 7:51 AM Johan Jönsson jjonsson@wikimedia.org wrote:
The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2019/05
Direct translation link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=pag...
Thank you all for your help! It is deeply appreciated. The newsletter has now been delivered (in 18 languages) to 821 pages across wikis.
//Johan Jönsson --
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