2009/6/25 Seb35 seb35wikipedia@gmail.com:

• Why is there no mention to the GFDL in the site footnote?

GFDL only applies to a subset of articles which don't incorporate CC-BY-SA-only materials, and in order to understand when it applies/doesn't apply, you have to consult the terms of use anyway. We're very conscious of how much space is taken up by legalese, so we've decided to stick to a minimal approach for the site footer.

• What about the localized versions of CC-BY-SA? like

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.fr by language and http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.fr_CA by language and country

You're free to link to official CC translations of the _unported_ CC-BY-SA license, like these above URLs.

• Should the Terms of Use be translated locally (by non-professionnal

translators) or is there some plan to translate it on the WMF site (either by non-professionnal volunteers or professionnal certified translators) ? because I think this page has some legal value.

The best page to translate is this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Implementation

It includes instructions for project communities on how to exactly adapt and localize (both in a regional sense and a project sense) the terms of use, and the core text itself. Volunteer translations of that page are already in progress.

2009/6/25 Tisza Gergő gtisza@gmail.com:

This will clutter the already messy editing interface even further by breaking the terms of use into three parts (before it was in copyrightwarning and edittools). I don't suppose this can be avoided, as edittools is customized on most wikis and cannot be changed in a centralized way, but local wikis should then be allowed to suppress wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary and move its contents to edittools (or vice versa).

My understanding is this: For the edit page, it should just be two parts, wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary and wikimedia-copyrightwarning. The default for the edittools message is to not contain licensing info. _Some_ wikis have moved licensing stuff into edittools to reduce clutter above the save/preview buttons. In order to address this need more explicitly, the wikimedia-editpage-tos-summary message exists to specifically capture secondary licensing information that can exist below the edit/save buttons.

This will mean that when we take this code live, wikis that have customized MediaWiki:Edittools to include licensing info will include some redundant/incorrect info that has to be removed. There's no way around that, but for the sake of clean updatability and consistency, the wikimedia-* messages should be used in future for all licensing info.