Translators-l November 2012

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Fwd: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Template sandbox - new feature to help you improve & make templates
by Paul Selitskas 30 Nov '12

30 Nov '12

TemplateSandbox will go live soon! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sumana Harihareswara <sumanah(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Template sandbox - new feature to help you improve & make templates To: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects < wikitech-ambassadors(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Update: I see that TemplateSandbox is now LIVE on Meta, Commons, and the other non-Wikipedia WMF wikis! It'll be going live to English Wikipedia on Monday 3 December and all other Wikipedias on Wednesday 5 December. Sorry for wrongly saying that it wasn't going live on most WMF sites yet. It'd be great if you could help by translating TemplateSandbox on translatewiki https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=transla… and by spreading the word about this new feature to template editors in your community. Thanks! Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Sumana Harihareswara <sumanah(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > "TemplateSandbox" lets you preview a page with a change in a template it > uses. > > At the bottom of the edit form in the Template and Module namespaces, a > new box will appear that allows you to preview other pages as they would > appear if you saved the template/module you are currently editing. > Example: try editing the sample "thank-you" template > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Thankyou . On the edit form, > under the Save button, you'll see "Preview page with this template" -- > try User_talk:Example_user . > > Or, go to > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:TemplateSandbox > > and give it the "sandbox prefix" User:Sharihareswara (WMF)/sandbox and > tell it to "render page" User_talk:Example_user . You'll see the ugly > changes I made to the template in my sandbox. > > More information at > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT#New_feature_needs_testing . > You can check this out in the new version of MediaWiki, now live on > mediawiki.org, but until we have more feedback and improvements we > aren't pushing it live on the other sites. > > We figure this will make it easier for people to hack on templates, and > to develop new Lua templates to replace wikitext templates. > > -- > Sumana Harihareswara > Engineering Community Manager > Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors -- З павагай, Павел Селіцкас/Pavel Selitskas Wizardist @ Wikimedia projects p.selitskas(a)gmail.com, +375257408304 Skype: p.selitskas

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Heads up - Some language tests running
by Joseph Seddon 28 Nov '12

28 Nov '12

Hey guys, Just so that your aware there are currently some tests running in english in europe and africa, spanish in spain, italian globally and german globally (except CH and DE). Campaigns linked below: EN: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralNotice&method=li… ES: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralNotice&method=li… IT: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralNotice&method=li… DE (german lang, not country): http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralNotice&method=li… Seddon -- -- Joseph Seddon Fundraiser Translation Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation

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[Fwd: Fundraiser launch update] Non-English FR postponed
by Federico Leva (Nemo) 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

Looks like the message missed this list. While I'm at it, I've asked a question on the translation system at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AFundraising_2012&diff=4… Nemo -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraiser launch update Data: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:10:52 -0800 Mittente: Zack Exley <zexley(a)wikimedia.org> Hi all, We have some information on the fundraiser launch to share. We are still planning on launching Monday, November 26, but we're going to make a change this year in the timing of campaigns around the world. Every year, as we get closer to the launch date, we test more frequently and discover new messages and designs that make the fundraiser much more efficient (i.e. more money per day, shorter fundraiser, fewer and/or smaller banners). In the past couple weeks, we've discovered some new designs and messages that we believe will let us shorten the fundraiser by a lot -- *and* make the banners much smaller than they've typically been. But we don't have time to adapt these to all the countries and languages in the world right away. This has pushed us to do something we've known is the right thing to do for some time. We're going to run this end of year campaign only in 5 countries (US, CA, GB, AU & NZ) and then spend three months meticulously localizing and translating (and testing for new purely local messages) before running the global campaign in all other counties, in which our best messages and designs developed in December will be used across the world. We will use the time over the next month to run short tests of various messages and payment options in other languages and countries in preparation for the global campaign that we'll run in April. So people in the five-country campaign will still only see a campaign once a year (in December). And people in all other countries will still only see a campaign once a year (in April). *Everyone, everywhere will only see one campaign per year* -- unless they happen to travel from, say, the US in December to India in April. We're excited about breaking the campaign up for several reasons. Over the next month, we will be able to focus on testing and finding the best messages. The new "Facts" banners have opened up more testing possibilites for us, and we'll learn a lot about our messages in the next month, while we can test 24 hours per day. We'll use the lessons learned from the December five-country campaign and spend the next three months applying them correctly and testing multiple versions in other languages and countries. What we've learned over the past few years is that the same messages tend to win all over the world. But that translating short, colloquial fundraising messages takes a long time and many translators to get right. And we're finding a new "best" message basically every day. We don't think it's good if only English readers are getting our best messages. So overall, we think we'll be able to run both the English banners and the multilingual banners better by breaking up the campaign. Our volunteer translators have already done a ton of work translating our current best messages -- and we are very thankful! We're using all of those translations now, in our testing and they will be the basis of the April campaign. We will be engaging the community of volunteers, donors and readers even more in the coming months to optimize the translations of the new messages and ramp up testing in various languages. Moreover, there are technical updates to the translation system that we'll be able to use during the April campaign that are not released yet. We are looking forward to more of our readers receiving better messages and donation experiences in countries around the world. More info to come! Instead of replying to this thread, please comment on the Fundraiser 2012 meta discussion page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising_2012 Zack & Megan, WMF fundraising _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l

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24 Hour Global Fundraising test - issues? problems? Hungarian appearing as Turkish?
by Joseph Seddon 23 Nov '12

23 Nov '12

Hey guys, So we are currently running a 24 hour test in a whole bunch of languages and countries (that many that I can't really be more specific). If you are currently seeing banners and see any errors on the banner or landing page. Let me know asap. I know that Takashi has sent some feedback on an earlier thread and Eleri has raised some stuff about cy appearing as english (though cy shouldn't see anything at the moment) Keep it all coming in :) The sooner someone points something out, the sooner we can stop potential donors seeing errors Thanks for everything so far as well, I am really appreciative of the amount of effort put into translation for the fundraiser :) Seddon -- -- Joseph Seddon Fundraiser Translation Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation

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Chinese translational question
by Quark Zhang 17 Nov '12

17 Nov '12

Hi everyone, I can not quite understand why should Chinese divided into 9 parts in translation. they are zh, zh-cn, zh-hans, zh-hant, zh-hk, zh-mo, zh-my, zh-sg, zh-tw. when I translate an information to Chinses, I seem to must edit all this 9 versions. I want to say that is the waste energy of translator. Because this 9 versions are consistent in essence. The differences between them just are individual words. It just like metro and subway in english. Editing 9 times for one information not only reduce efficiency in 9 times, but also increase the chance of errors in 9 tims. I may not know some simplified operation behind this, but I think the problem may indeed exist. It is just word conversion between simple and tradition Chinese in the Chinese Wikipedia, instead of editing many versions of one entry. My suggestion is translating zh-hans, zh-hant at frist. And finished or published, default zh-hans=zh-cn, zh-my, zh-sg; zh-hant=zh-hk, zh-mo, zh-tw. At the same time, zh-cn, zh-my, zh-sg, zh-hk, zh-mo, zh-tw's status is need to proofreading, in order to amend the wording of them. At last, I really do not know where should be zh version used. wulaquark <http://www.iciba.com/metro>

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Re: [Translators-l] Chinese translational question
by Alejandra Tapia 17 Nov '12

17 Nov '12

I will be out of the office from November 16th to November 27th. For assistance please call Kandy at 936 709-7759.

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Where to contact for mistranslations after fundraising banner launched
by Takashi OTA 13 Nov '12

13 Nov '12

Hi lists, It seems that fundraiser messages have started to appear on top of articles. Unfortunately, I found some typos in such translated messages in Japanese. I felt so sorry that I could not do my proofreading well enough on meta before launch. Anyway, could anybody tell me where to contact to correct them? Another problem is I could not necessarily see the wrong messages. So, I would like to know: 1) where to report the typos 2) where to find the texts actually appeared on websites (if possible) Thanks as always, --Takashi Ota

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Fwd: [Wikivoyage-l] Help needed with sitenotice
by Federico Leva (Nemo) 07 Nov '12

07 Nov '12

Italian and Swedish still missing, proofreading useful for other languages. Nemo -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto: [Wikivoyage-l] Help needed with sitenotice Data: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 14:31:57 -0800 Mittente: Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> Rispondi-a: Wikivoyage Mailing List <wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> A: Wikivoyage Mailing List <wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> As we gear up for the launch "in beta", we should prepare a nice sitenotice that explains what's going on. I've put up a quick draft here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Beta_notice Would appreciate edits and translations. The "oldwikivoyagelink" will be replaced via JavaScript as that's more reliable than using magicwords in a sitenotice. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l

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User appeals batch #1
by Joseph Seddon 05 Nov '12

05 Nov '12

Hey translators, So to try and avoid spamming translators too much over the next couple of weeks I thought it might make sense to post batchs of translation requests here rather than sending notification after notification (I am sure your all getting sick of me) through the notification tool. This way ill use the tool to focus on the gaps that are left. Last year we ran appeals from around 14 editors. This year we reckon we are looking to use 30-40 editor appeals over the course of the fundraiser. It's looking hopeful that our reliance on jimmy will be even lower following some break throughs this year. The idea is that almost every week there will be a new batch of editors appeals to prepare. It would be fantastic to be able to run these appeals in as many languages as is possible. These arn't super urgent, but the more of these we can get the better: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/Translation/AdrianneW_Appe… http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/Translation/MikeC_Appeal http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/Translation/Ravan_Appeal https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/Translation/Srikeit&Noopur… http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/Translation/Poongothai_Appe… Many Thanks -- -- Joseph Seddon Fundraiser Translation Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation

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