Aphaia napisa: Hello, I remember there was in LanguageXx(x).php a grammar rule for the project names. But they are deleted now. Why? It was a switch command for the grammatical cases of all wiki projects - here for Upper Sorbian: switch ( $case ) { case 'genitiw': # genitive if ( $word == 'Wikipedija' ) { $word = 'Wikipedije'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikiknihi' ) { $word = 'Wikiknih'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikinowiny' ) { $word = 'Wikinowin'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikižórło' ) { $word = 'Wikižórła'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikicitaty' ) { $word = 'Wikicitatow'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikisłownik' ) { $word = 'Wikisłownika'; } break; case 'datiw': # dativ if ( $word == 'Wikipedija' ) { $word = 'Wikipediji'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikiknihi' ) { $word = 'Wikikniham'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikinowiny' ) { $word = 'Wikinowinam'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikižórło' ) { $word = 'Wikižórłu'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikicitaty' ) { $word = 'Wikicitatam'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikisłownik' ) { $word = 'Wikisłownikej'; } break; case 'akuzativ': # akuzativ if ( $word == 'Wikipedija' ) { $word = 'Wikipediju'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikiknihi' ) { $word = 'Wikiknknihi'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikinowiny' ) { $word = 'Wikinowiny'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikižórło' ) { $word = 'Wikižórło'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikicitaty' ) { $word = 'Wikicitaty'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikisłownik' ) { $word = 'Wikisłownik'; } break; case 'instrumental': # instrumental if ( $word == 'Wikipedija' ) { $word = 'Wikipediju'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikiknihi' ) { $word = 'Wikiknihami'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikinowiny' ) { $word = 'Wikinowinami'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikižórło' ) { $word = 'Wikižórłom'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikicitaty' ) { $word = 'Wikicitatami'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikisłownik' ) { $word = 'Wikisłownikom'; } else { $word = 'z ' . $word; } break; case 'lokatiw': # lokatiw if ( $word == 'Wikipedija' ) { $word = 'Wikipediji'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikiknihi' ) { $word = 'Wikiknihach'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikinowiny' ) { $word = 'Wikinowinach'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikižórło' ) { $word = 'Wikižórłu'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikicitaty' ) { $word = 'Wikicitatach'; } elseif ( $word == 'Wikisłownik' ) { $word = 'Wikisłowniku'; } else { $word = 'wo ' . $word; } break; } return $word; # this will return the original value for 'nominatiw' (nominativ) and all undefined case values } I don't know why it was deleted in LanguageHsb.php. And AFAIK Czech had such a switch command in its languageCs.php as well. Regards, michawiki

Casey Brown napisa: Hi Casey, It must be "accus*a*tive", not accus*i*tive. But in Wikipedia we use the Sorbian names of the cases: nominatiw, genitiw, datiw, akuzatiw, instrumental, lokatiw and the template name is written completely in upper case: GRAMMAR (like PLURAL as well) but I don't know if this is relevant. Well, zour example should look: {{GRAMMAR:akuzatiw|{{SITENAME}}}} But you should consider that in Slavic languages accusative often equals to nominative if a noun denotes inanimate entities, thus things. With persons or animals the accusative has the form of genitive. This rule is valid for masculine and neutral nouns, not for feminine nouns. Well, don't use Wiktionary as an example (because the Sorbian form is Wikisłownik. Here accusative = nominative. Use e.g. Wikipedija or Wikimedija, then the accusative will be Wikipediju resp. Wikimediju and you will see that the template works (I hope so, :-)) Regards, michawiki

Siebrand Mazeland napisa: extension WikimediaMessages, where they can be updated without requiring a shell admin, and only be used by Wikimedia, and they are no longer in the standard MediaWiki product where Wikimedia specific configuration does not belong. Hi Siebrand, yes I've found the file WikimediaGrammarForms.php: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessage… But I saw that there are no grammar rules for the Wikimedia project, in all languages. And for Lower Sorbian (dsb) are used the Upper Sorbian forms. I shall write the Lower Sorbian forms tomorrow, today (eh, today is already tomorrow :-)) it's too late. Or to early in the morning? :-) Regards, michawiki

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Petr Kadlec <petr.kadlec(a)gmail.com> wrote: Same issue with the Portuguese language. "Wikipedia", "Wikinotícias" (Wikinews) and "Wikiversidade" (Wikiversity) are feminine singular. "Wikcionário" (Wiktionary), "Wikilivros" (Wikibooks), "Wikiquote", "Wikisource" and "Wikimedia Commons" masculine singular.