Translators-l April 2017

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Re: [Translators-l] Translators-l Digest, Vol 141, Issue 20
by Maha Badr 17 Apr '17

17 Apr '17

Dear All; I need to start translate from Arabic to English and English to Arabic . please can any one guide me . Thanks & Best Regards Maha Badr ________________________________ From: Translators-l <translators-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of translators-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <translators-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:00 PM To: translators-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Translators-l Digest, Vol 141, Issue 20 Send Translators-l mailing list submissions to translators-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to translators-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at translators-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Translators-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Automated translation not working? (Philippe Verdy) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 13:17:37 +0200 From: Philippe Verdy <verdy_p(a)wanadoo.fr> To: Bjoern Hassler <bjohas+mw(a)gmail.com> Cc: Wikimedia Translators <translators-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Translators-l] Automated translation not working? Message-ID: <CAGa7JC1TDPcfXwcPJF3Ma6bHAQ78EH2gffgLBPo12HPyVLaF-A(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" You did not specify which source page are you trying to translate, and on which wiki.... Then we can look at the target of your translation attempt. Your provided this link: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spezial:Inhalts% C3%BCbersetzung&page=Biniai+Nou+hypogea&from=en&to=de& targettitle=Biniai+Nou+hypogea But the German Wikipedia does not have any page named "Biniai Nou hypogea". You are probably trying to find this page on the wrong wiki ! Translations are made wiki by wiki, but are enabled essentially on multilingual wikis (such as Commons, or Meta), not on Wikipedia (translations of pages between separate editions of Wikipedia cannot use the same tools) 2017-04-17 9:26 GMT+02:00 Bjoern Hassler <bjohas+mw(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Philippe, > > many thanks. > > Do you mean e.g. on https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Inhalts%C3% > BCbersetzung ? I don't see a yellow box? There is "Von einer beliebigen > Sprache / In eine beliebige Sprache", but that lists English/German in both. > > In any case - are you basically saying that English <-> German could be > enabled? > > Many thanks! > Bjoern > > > > On 16 April 2017 at 21:38, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote: > >> This is displayed in the top header (yellow box) which lsits the >> "proiritized" languages. Anyway there's another setting (not displayed) >> that disallow other translations (this was discussed recently when someone >> created a page to translate ONLY in minority languages, exclusing all other >> major languages than the source English). >> >> Experience shows that (espacially for minory languages that very few >> translators available, many of them not being very fluent in English) we >> need to always enable other languages thant English to help disambiguate >> the English source so that translators for minority languages can see >> translations proposed in other major languages and that are better >> reviewed, in order to provide better translations not just based on the >> English source but also on what they can better read and understand in >> another language. >> >> I must confess that I see no reason to exclude any language (except old >> compatibility languages whose use is no longer recommanded, and which may >> be configured globally, only if there's other choices of language codes: >> those compatibility codes will finally be redirected to new ones or locked >> down). >> >> And for the ~15 major languages of the world (that are used as lingua >> francas for regional or national interchanges) they should never be >> disabled (notably because they are already used as fallback languages for >> missing translations in minority languages). For a list of fallback >> languages (that should never be disabled), see for example what is >> implemented in Commons and MetaWiki; this is more than just English which >> is only the last-chance fallback ! The list of fallbacks was first >> implemtend as templates ,then as modules, and now as part of global wiki >> configuration (and part now of MediaWiki itself with its API). >> >> >> 2017-04-16 13:15 GMT+02:00 Bjoern Hassler <bjohas+mw(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Thanks! How do I find out which language pairs are enabled? >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Translators-l mailing list >> Translators-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l Translators-l Mailing List - Wikimedia<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l> lists.wikimedia.org Translators-l Wikimedia Translators. En: This list is for discussing and announcing new translation requests across the Wikimedia projects. Ja: ウィキ ... >> >> >

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what a fantastic place
by translators-l＠lists.wikimedia.org 16 Apr '17

16 Apr '17

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Possibly disabling some AggregateGroups
by Nick Wilson (Quiddity) 16 Apr '17

16 Apr '17

Hi all, Re: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AggregateGroups That page takes a long time to load on my old machine. I'm wondering if I can/should just boldly disable(delete) some of the older groups? Or, are these AggregateGroups still useful to you as translators, even though the content is {{historical}} ? Specifically: "Grants:IEG", "GLAMing Madrid Challenge", "Grants:PEG", "Grants:TPS", "Program Capacity and Learning", "Research Labs2", "Stewards elections 2015", "Wikimedia Foundation elections 2013", "Wikimedia Foundation elections 2015", "Wikipedia 15". That's all I can see that's obviously outdated. Removing those few won't reduce the size of the Special page by much, but I suspect it is useful cleanup to do regardless. I just don't want to overlook a use-case! Thanks for your input :) -- Nick Wilson (Quiddity) Community Liaison, WMF

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by Giuseppe Sanero 16 Apr '17

16 Apr '17

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by Jacopo rchetti 16 Apr '17

16 Apr '17

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Re: [Translators-l] Translation request for turning on the Page Previews feature on the second group of Wikipedias
by Chris Koerner 14 Apr '17

14 Apr '17

Hello, I didn't wish to waste translators time by translating into a language we wouldn't use in this round of reaching out to Wikipedia communities. My apologies for any confusion as I was unaware that it would acutely prevent - as in stop you from saving - translations to any languages outside the list. Philippe, I hope you can see by the sheer number of languages I did ask for that I had no intent to forbid any language! Thank you for sharing you concerns, I appreciate the education in the nuance of language. Sincerely. I've removed the check from the box preventing translations. Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison - Discovery Wikimedia Foundation

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Translation request for turning on the Page Previews feature on the second group of Wikipedias
by Chris Koerner 13 Apr '17

13 Apr '17

Hello my multilingual friends, I have a favor to ask. The Reading team at the foundation is getting ready to start the second round of deployments for the Page Previews feature. We are trying to reach as many communities as we can in their language. Translating this message to the communities in this group would be very helpful and much appreciated - both from me and the communities themselves! :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CKoerner_(WMF)/Enable_Hovercards/Phase… As always, you're a beautiful person and I appreciate the help. Yours, Chris Koerner Community Liaison - Discovery Wikimedia Foundation

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Editing Wikipedia will stop for 30 minutes on two days: please translate the announcement
by Whatamidoing (WMF)/Sherry Snyder 12 Apr '17

12 Apr '17

Please translate: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/Server_switch_2017 You may remember that the Technology department did a major test in April 2016 to see how well they could recover from a major disaster. During this test, it was not possible to edit Wikipedia or any of the other WMF wikis for about 30 minutes on two days. They are repeating this exercise this year. This will affect editors and contributors around the world, at Wikipedias, Wiktionaries, Wikivoyages, Commons, and other WMF sites. Please translate the main announcement into as many languages as possible. Last year, we had complete translations into about 40 languages, and partial translations into a couple of other languages. This should be a relatively quick translation job. The main change from last year is the dates and times. I have just checked (by creating part of the German translation), and about 60% of the sentences are identical to last year and stored in translation memory. (Also, if you read German, please review the parts of the German translation that I copied. :-) If you have questions, you can reach me in e-mail or on wiki.[1] THANK YOU! [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)&acti… -- Sherry Snyder (WhatamIdoing) Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation

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really great stuff
by translators-l＠lists.wikimedia.org 12 Apr '17

12 Apr '17

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Ready for early translation: Tech News #15 (2017)
by Johan Jönsson 11 Apr '17

11 Apr '17

The latest tech newsletter is ready for early translation: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2017/15 Direct translation link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-T… I'm planning to send the newsletter on Monday afternoon (UTC), i.e. Monday morning PT. The existing translations will be posted on the wikis in that language. Deadlines: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/For_contributors#The_deadlines There may be a few more edits by Friday, but the existing content should generally remain fairly stable. I will let you know on Friday in any case. Let me know if you have any questions, comments or concerns. As always, I appreciate your help and feedback. (If you did not translate Tech News in the last few months, see this email: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/translators-l/2017-January/003773.html Please do tell me if there's anything I can help you with.) //Johan Jönsson --

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