Translators-l August 2006

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Re: [Translators-l] UI text translation
by Aphaia 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Hello all, For preparing the coming Election, we have to update two MediaWiki messages, advised Tim Staring. "Tim Starling" <t.starling(a)physics.unimelb.edu.au> writes: >So the text could be: > > boardvote_notqualified: You are not qualified to vote in this election. You need to have made $3 edits before $2, you have made $1. Also, your first edit was at $4, it needs to be before $5. > boardvote_notloggedin: You are not logged in. To vote, you must use an account with at least $1 contributions before $2, and with a first edit before $3. (hmmm, that's a new element ...) Those changes could be done automatically by MediaWiki default, or not. Anyway, it would be nice to prepare translations of those messages in my opinion. Other MediaWiki:Boardvote_* files have not to be changed. You can see those messages on meta too: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Election_UI_text_2006 If you feel at ease, you can work on that page. Cheers, -- Kizu Naoko Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org * vivemus, mea Lesbia, amemus *

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[Election] Big season of translation, we have now close to 20 candidates!
by Aphaia 29 Aug '06

29 Aug '06

Hello all, thank you for your help and interest as usual, now we close candidate accepting. I hope we can release soon the complete list of candidates. This election gets a wide attention, and we have now close to 20 candidates. I'm really excited about that. Quicklist of candidate statement by language: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Election_translations_2006/En#Candidates Some of those candidates came late, but I hope the Wikimedia community pay impartial attention to all those candidates. All statements will be read closely, ideally in the language most convenient for each reader, that is, each voter. Regretfully we need to admit not all voter can read those statement in the language they are most familiar with, though. But luckily and thankfully being helped by many eager translators, some language speakers will be able to have each of those statements in their own languages - or not. It depends on our volunteering staff, and if you are multilingual, you can help it. Your translation will help your friends in your community and help assuring the neutrality and impartiality of this coming Election. I think no one will be happy if some candidates have their statements in multiple language, and others have only in few, or some language speaker voters can read what a certain candidate think and promise, but need to rely on machine translation or a language version which is obscure for them at all. I want to pursue the equal opportunity to the highest extent. On this Election. Not only because I am serving as officer to that, but also I believe in the equal right of us the Wikimedia editor and trust you all as collaborator to the same goal; to provide free knowledge in every potion of this planet, in every language. And voting for our community representative should be one of most significant part to pursue this goal in my opinion. And for that, we need your help, you German, Spanish, Dutch, Italian, Polish ... and many other translators. Again, we need your help. To provide all our voters enough information consider this Election as serious as possible. As impartial as possible. And you can help us. Us the Wikimedia community, assuring it the global character, the equality - and free access to a certain knowledge: what those candidate think about our mission. So, give a look to our workspace and consider what you can do! Quicklist of candidate statement by language: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Election_translations_2006/En#Candidates Thank you for your attention, and see later on meta. -- Kizu Naoko Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org * vivemus, mea Lesbia, amemus *

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Hadraj Said
by said hadraj 28 Aug '06

28 Aug '06

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[Election] Language barriers, specially English one
by Aphaia 26 Aug '06

26 Aug '06

On meta, Fruggo said: > I too found it odd that most statements were only in English, while most candidates stated that they participate in several languages (I wonder, what is the level of participation if you don't speak the language...). But what bothered me more was the level of English used in the statements. I've translated candicacy statements before, among other things on foundation and meta, but this was the first time I almost gave up: guys, what difficult words you use! Please keep in mind that the statements are also meant for non-native English speakers. If you use such difficult English now, how will that be when non-native English speakers try and understand board discussions? Fruggo 07:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC) Well said. I hope all native English speaking editors, in particular who are ambitious to get involved into the Foundation level, or even on the community, all who wants to join the interproject a/o -language type activities, more than half of the Wikimedia project participants are NOT native speakers of English. Fruggo is a good translator and one of core staff of En -> Nl translations for a long time. Not only on candidate presentation, but on other pages, I myself have faced several problems. I appreciate her to bring up this problem in this occasion. Also, I would like to stress hereby the Election Committee don't assure each of candidates the possibility of translation. If you writes unclearly, your statement loss the chance to be translated and read on the community. So, dear candidate, please check your statement and consider if it is clear for everyone, not for your friends who are native English speakers, but for all. And if possible, consider to rewrite it more clearly, or provide the community with another english version - simple English or alike. And if you are capable in multiple languages, please try to prepare another language version by your own hands. For multilingual translators, such possibility of comparison might be helpful to make a better work. We try to find translators, and currently many translators are volunterring to put those statement into their language, but as Fruggo properly said on the above, no one cannot translate what they cannot understand. It might be harmful, misguiding the reader-voters. To translators: I request you all the Election translator to consider to leave your work incomplete, boldly, in case you are not sure you understand properly. Misinformation is worse than no information in my opinion. Leave the original message in the original language and leave your comment on the talk or as comment on that page. If you ask the candidate to ask to clarify what he or she intended, I will greately appreciate you for your efforts, and possibly the community, but please note, it is not mundetory for you and you needn't be exhausted for this work. Please give up, before you are torn. Close the window and go out to take a fresh air of the late summer. -- Kizu Naoko Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org * vivemus, mea Lesbia, amemus *

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Election 2006: Translation ongoing
by Aphaia 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

Hello all, thank you for your works always, also for Election related matters. Now we have over 25 language version of Election notice thanks to your work. I am very happy with all your cooperation. Still we need to work though, specially on candidate presentations (some language versions aren't available, some is still ongoing), I expect our works go in progress surely, day by day. If you want to involved more, please visit the Election pages! I would like to show my full appreciation to Arno Lagrange and Jd. Those French guys did a great job for organize the translation or its mulitingualization. I would like to stress Arno's hospitality, he has cared for all candidates' presentations; translated them into his language(s), and tried to save them in case some of them didn't appear in particular language version of general presentation page. It is a noble attitude which a candidate can show to other candidate, and I expect other candidates behave as nice as him. Jd took care of translators' page and turned it very user-friendly. He did other many nice works. And if I mention all names here, this mail is too long to read at your mailer. So please forgive me not to mention you here in particular, but please remember I am aware of you all and deeply appreciate each of you. Related links: Election page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Election Candidate presentation by language: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Election_candidates_2006/quickview_… Translators' page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Election_translations_2006/En Cheers, -- Kizu Naoko Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org * vivemus, mea Lesbia, amemus *

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by manami 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

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Special Projects Committee open meeting : Friday, August 26, 2200 UTC
by Samuel Klein 20 Aug '06

20 Aug '06

Dear all, The Special Projects Committee is holding an open meeting this Friday at 2200 UTC on IRC (channel to be determined). Please sign up on meta if you are interested in attending, and add notes to the agenda whether or not you can be there at that time: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Special_projects_committee#Public_meeti… The meeting is expected to last around two hours. Note that there is also a public mailing list, spcommittee-l, that you can subscribe to discuss projects before and after. Best, SJ

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Tech operations: translations?
by Jean-Denis Vauguet 19 Aug '06

19 Aug '06

Hi! Aphaia/britty and I were talking on irc about the latest "Operations report" by Domas (see Foundation-l) and agreed it would be great "You, outhere", translate it and forward it to local mailing lists :) I will do so tomorrow for WikiFR-l. As britty said to me, tech things are among the biggest concerns for many people, and since it's the largest part of the foundation budget, it would be great to spread as much information as can be on this subject. jd :)

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Wikimania 2007 - get ready for the third edition.
by Delphine Ménard 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Dear all, Wikimania 2006 just closed its doors a week or so ago, and it is already time to think about the next edition. As happened in 2005 and 2006, the city hosting Wikimania in 2007 will be chosen among whichever candidate cities dare/deign/want to participate in the "hosting Wikimania" contest. All information concerning how to launch a bid for your city/location can be found on meta: *http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2007 *http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2007/Bids *http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2007/Official_requirements_for_bidding_cities Please follow the instructions on that last page to build your bid. The Wikimania 2007 organizing team stays at your disposal for any questions you might have concerning the bidding process and/or the bidding requirements. Happy bidding! Delphine PS. I have removed all red links to non-existing unoffical bids. Please only add a link when there is some kind of content to the bid and make sure the bid is classified with the name of the city, not the country. PPS. Dear translators, thank you for translating this message and sending it to your respective home lists. -- ~notafish

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proof reading di testo tradotto en-it
by Sabine Cretella 13 Aug '06

13 Aug '06

Ciao, ho iniziato a tradurre qualche programma per la elezione del board verso l'italiano. Utilizzo un CAT-Tool in modo che posso facilmente aggiornare le traduzioni, Questo facilita anche il proof-reading, perché la frase in inglese è sopra la frase italiana. Visto che il mio italiano non è perfetto servirebbe qualcuno che da uno sguardo ad una pagina. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Eloquence/Programma_2006/tmx Quando si clicca su edit il testo diventa ben leggibile - a vederlo così sembra strano. Ad un punto è stato modificato il testo originale - quindi la frase dall'inglese non si trova esattamente ("la possibilità di dimostarvi che posso far valere tutte le mie abilità") Domani farò un altro pezzetto - ho visto che ci sono parecchie cose dove manca ancora l'italiano (anche di altri candidati). Grazie!!! Ciao, Sabine Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com

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