Translators-l November 2005

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Translation wiki proposal
by SJ 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

Dear Wiki*edians & especially polyglots : In the spirit of Thanksgiving, being thankful as ever for these polylingual projects (I just won a bet with a Chilean about his home town, referencing spanish wp articles :), I would like to propose a new one (gasp!) : an all-language wiki devoted to language overviews, language proposals, interface localization (text, images, &c), and translations of core Wikimedia and MediaWiki messages. Similar proposals have been floated before, with little discussion; here is another attempt on the theme. * Name : babel.wikimedia.org ? * Main Page : a list of languages by, say, # of native speakers/readers [1], with prominent links to other views (by language-cluster, by geographic region, by article-count, by reader popularity...), information on translators & translation, and language statistics [2]. * Content : All localizable MediaWiki strings, in 200+ languages [3]. Portals for each language, describing work being done to develop that language, with portal-content in a few core language + the lang in question. All localizable custom strings for Wikimedia projects, in those languages. Key strings and messages (such as site-wide notice templates) which are used regularly and needed in every language. Policy and discussion pages about new language creation. ** Optional content : Other translation efforts, such as global press releases, which work through a high volume of content (thousands of edits in dozens of languages) in a short period of time. ** Related project : a specific "interface-translation wiki" for the latest MediaWiki installation, which auto-updates the localizable strings in the latest MW version.[4] Please comment or indicate support for the idea on meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects#Babel_Wiki [1] Not just readers; if there's no written language, audio output and input are excellent ways to transfer information... we've been doing that for eons longer than we've been passing around printed bytes [2] % completion of interface translation; # of self-identified 'translators' in and out of the lang; full list of wikimedia projects in that lang w/origin-dates, article and active-editor counts; links to key pages on target wikis [3] Eventually significantly more than 200. [3'] It may be useful to have one template/page per string per language, to facilitate automatic conversion from wiki to other formats; multiple views of l10n strings (e.g., 2 langs side-by-side on one page as in Special:Allmessages). ~200 languages x (200 custom strings x 5 Wikimedia Projects + 1000 standard strings) = O(500K) pages, worth its own project. [4] These ideas could be merged; or that project (say, at language.mediawiki.org) could offer ways to pull content from the appropriate section of the Babel wiki (and more security safeguards). ++SJ

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from angel rodriguez about wikipedia.org and google/language_tools
by angel rodriguez 26 Nov '05

26 Nov '05

No necessary,we needed to translate the complete English wikipedia to Spanish or another language but to translate some articles or wikibooks to one language to another always with the supervision of a person with knowledge of the two language and the mater of the article or wikibook. In this way increase the amount of articles of another language also to translate articles from other language to English. -- **************************** ** Angel Rodriguez ** ****************************

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from angel rodriguez about wikipedia.org and google/language_tools
by angel rodriguez 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

I went to www.wikipedia.org and I found that in English they had 831000 articles but in other language like Spanish they only had 75 000. I understand that is difficult to find people that in the spare of their time do all the translation for one language to other. The other day I tray other way,it was to use translate, a web page tools from google( http://www.google.com/language_tools) from English to Spanish. I found this tool very useful because no more in from of me I had 75 000 articles in Spanish, in reality I had 831 000 articles in Spanish. I want to know if there is a way to use this tools to make a more permanent translation of the majority of articles in English to another language , I understand with some kind of supervision in that way to ratify any errors in the process , and in the same time with the authorization of google without loosing any of principle of the free encyclopedia wikipedia.org. I don't work for google or wikipedia.org, I only a customer for the service of both. sincerely -- **************************** ** Angel Rodriguez ** ****************************

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Reminder: Wikimania discussion today, 2200 UTC
by SJ 05 Nov '05

05 Nov '05

...on IRC, in #wikimania Comments, agenda changes, etc can be added here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2006/Planning#Agenda http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimania_2006#November_5_discussion ++SJ

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Hebrew Wikinews
by Angela 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Following the launch of Russian Wikinews <http://ru.wikinews.org/> yesterday, the Hebrew edition has now been created, in accordance with requests at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Start_a_new_edition and the previous announcement on foundation-l. http://he.wikinews.org/ Angela.

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Russian Wikinews
by Angela 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

The Russian Wikinews has now been created by Erik following requests at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Start_a_new_edition and the previous announcement on foundation-l. http://ru.wikinews.org/ The next edition is expected to be Hebrew. Angela.

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