Le 29/03/2019 à 19:10, Andre Klapper a écrit :
Hi everyone!
Over the last months we've worked on a new frontpage for mediawiki.org which will replace the current https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki soon (probably next week).
You can find the new version at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki/Homepage_improvements_2018/Proposal
As this is the front page and highly visible, it would be great if you could help translating it to your language!
I admit that I do not know the best practices for the translation process. Can the proposal page already be marked for translation and can I then easily "move" these translations, once I copy (not: move) the content of the English version into https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki ? Or does translation have to wait until the proposal has been moved?
Overall, this is going to be quite complicated because of how the main page currently works on mw.o (via all the sub-templates listed at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Main_page_templates ). IIUC, It is currently using the (ancient) manual subpage-translation system rather than the newer <translate> extension system. I.e. You could update https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Main_page/users_text fairly easily if we want to keep using this old system, but AFAICT none of the translations of that section would have any indication that the source had changed (beyond watchlist/RC).
If we want to keep using this old system, then I think the most practical order to do the update in would be 1. Update https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Main_page and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Main_page/styles.css so that it contains the new structure (but using the same 5 pre-existing content sources (intro/using/developing/admin/news). 2. Create the new content source block (help), using the same subtemplate system 3. Then update the contents of the existing content source blocks.
If instead we want to overhaul the whole thing and set it up properly with the <translate> system, then (to answer your question) we'd need to wait until the proposal has been copied across to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Main_page before marking it up, if you want to avoid page-moves.
(Sidenote: I believe the main benefit of storing the page in the template namespace (at [[Template:Main_page]]) is that it allows the page-specific styles to be moved out of Mediawiki:Common.css and into Template:Main_page/styles.css, as TheDJ did for this wiki in 2017. I'm not sure if there are other benefits.)
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:22 AM Sylvain Chiron chironsylvain@orange.fr wrote:
Considering that this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Collaboration/Newsletter/Issues/2016/... has been separated from this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Collaboration/Newsletter/Issues/2016/10/fr after the first one was renamed (and I personally don’t have the right to fix this: renaming shows an error), you should be very careful — :).
I've requested a fix for these at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_burea... Thanks!