Not that I am under any illusion that my opinion
matters, but I strongly
recommend everyone to have absolutely nothing to do with this
leech-organisation.
*Rossouw van RooyenFarm ManagerWildheim <https://www.wildheim.net/>Cell:
081 874 1191Tel: 063 280 650*
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 10:21, Michael Graaf <graaf.michael(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi all,
what I was saying was that instead of seeing this as an issue of Afrikaans
being discriminated against, it should be seen as careless
communication/ignorance on the part of Moleskine. We would all gladly
support them if they announced that their mission was to boost
marginalised
languages (those with small wikis/few contributors). However,they
expressed
it by saying they want to support indigenous languages, with an assumption
that these two categories overlap.
However Afrikaans is an exception, since it isn't marginalised. They
failed
to take that fact into consideration, and hence they raised false
expectations. Then, adding insult to injury, they tried to explain by
saying Afrikaans is not indigenous, rather than that it's not
marginalised.
So we need to advise them to be more careful.
On a personal note, let me remind board members that we have previously
discussed the issue of "Afrikaaps" being the marginalised side of
Afrikaans. After I shared a radio interview with you, I was mandated to
contact the panelists, which I did, but without them taking up the offer
of
a workshop. More recently UWC has published the first dictionary of
Afrikaaps, so perhaps someone there might be interested in dialogue.
Regards,
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bobby Shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Shupai,
Kindly remind me what resolution did we take on the issue Deon is
raising.
I remember him raising that he applied for the
Wikimedian in Residence
position and he made a follow up why he was not selected as a candidate
but
instead he was informed they don't recognize
Afrikaans, @Deon correct
me if
I'm wrong here!
I think I said I was going to write a letter to chastise them for such
kind of harsh response since Rossouw an Afrikaans speaker played a
pivotal
role in this project. And I remember Michael
speaking but my internet
went
down I don't remember how we finally said we
were gonna move forward
with
this issue? Kindly remind me so that I respond
immediately.
Best,
Bobby Shabangu
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 08:00, <deon.steyn(a)ntnis.co.za> wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> The very same people that does not recognise Afrikaans as an indigenous
> language...
>
> Deon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bobby Shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com>
> Sent: Woensdag 22 September 2021 02:25
> To: Tochi Precious <tochiprecious2(a)gmail.com>om>; WikimediaZA List
> <wikimediaza(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>; Shupai Mchuchu <
> shupai(a)wikimedia.org.za>gt;;
> Ngonidzashe Chipunza <chipunza59(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Re: Kind request for support for AfroCuration
> South
> Africa event
>
> Dear Tochi,
>
> Thanks for reaching out, we already know about this project from a
> presentation made by Papa some couple of months back. Shupai our
> administrator will let you know there are more volunteers from the
Chapter
> and community who would like to take part
here.
>
> @Shupai Mchuchu <shupai(a)wikimedia.org.za> kindly note these dates and
> send
> me a reminder 2 days before it takes place. Also kindly send this to
our
> community and board to find out if there
aren't any volunteers who
would
> want to take part and volunteer with their
time in this project. I'll
> certainly be there.
>
> Best regards,
> Bobby Shabangu
>
> On Tue, 21 Sept 2021 at 16:59, Tochi Precious <
tochiprecious2(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Bobby, my name is [[User: Tochiprecious]]. I'm one of the
> > founding members of @wikimediaigbo and also a Wikipedian in Residence
> > at Moleskine Foundation working on the WikiAfrica Education project.
> >
> > I pioneered the last AfroCuration on 4th and 5th September in
> > Mozambique where I worked with the WMF Language Team to get the
> > Makhuwa language Wikipedia into the incubator. We had over 70
> > participants and have created over 120 articles since then.
> >
> > My next program is in S.A, with Constitution Hill and Harambee on
26th
> > and 27th of October and I would like to
ask for your assistance as a
> > User Group to help train new editors to edit your language Wikipedia,
> > and also mentor them to become part of your user group and also
> > knowledge contributors in your language on Wiki.
> >
> > Also, I would like to find out the languages that the S.A User Group
> > edits Wiki in.
> >
> > I'll be looking forward to hearing from you soon.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > Tochi
> >
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