WikimediaZA November 2013

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Re: [Wikimedia ZA] [Wikimedia-GH] page edits per country ...
by Enock Seth Nyamador 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

Thanks Erik, but as Rex said it will make things clearer. Unrelated: The game was interesting. Proved to Rex and I we don't know Africa much. *Burundi* was very difficult to locate. :D. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Thanks Erik for the detailed explanation. > > In other words, please can the detailed explanation be summarized down to > 3 to 5 sentences? Though detailed, it adds more confusion for me as the > answer to "*what a real edit is*" isn't clear for me. > > Will really appreciate that. > > Thank you. > > rexford > > > On Wednesday, November 27, 2013, Erik Zachte wrote: > >> Isla, >> >> >> >> Two different sets of wikistats reports use a slightly different >> definition of ’edit’. With one major difference. >> >> >> >> 1 >> >> The dump based reports (e.g. on articles, editors, etc) count every >> revision of a page stored in the database, >> >> for articles which are perceived to be encyclopedic content or ‘content’ >> for short. >> >> For most wikis only namespace 0 is such countable content. >> >> A few wikis have extra namespaces deemed as content, which these are can >> be queried via an API call. >> >> From these namespaces formally only pages containing an internal link are >> to be included (but in practice all are, as that info is not always >> available). >> >> Again with the exception of redirects which are always excluded. >> >> >> >> Then Wikistats reports list counts separately for registered users, anons >> and bots >> >> See e.g. >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm#editor_activity_levelsa… other tables on that page >> >> >> >> 2 >> >> Our traffic reports, based on server logs, count any page submit to any >> wiki html page, no matter which namespace. >> >> But the proportion of edits to non encyclopedic content is pretty small, >> so no big deal. >> >> >> >> Here bots are filtered at all (assuming x+ edits per day signals a bot, >> taking few false positives for granted) >> >> Major difference: These scripts do not know about logged-in status of >> person (so total edit count is larger). >> >> As these reports look into geo-distribution this is well worth >> mentioning. >> >> >> >> >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageEditsPerCountryO… >> >> >> >> In both occasions only a final submit of an edit is counted, not the >> opening of the page in edit mode, or previews. >> >> >> >> >> >> (also resending response to Rupert to all) >> >> >> >> Rupert, >> >> >> >> The report you mention is actually to be replaced by a more precise one. >> >> Numbers for that report were based on 1:1000 sampled log. >> >> >> >> New reports for edits use 1:1 unsampled log and are hence fully precise. >> >> And numbers are monthly edits. >> >> See for example this quarterly report: >> >> >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageEditsPerCountryO… >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Erik >> >> >> >> PS >> >> Unrelated: today I saw this nice quiz: >> >> http://youdontknowafrica.com/?location=africa >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Isla Haddow-Flood [mailto:islahf@africacentre.net] >> *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2013 11:58 >> *To:* rupert THURNER; wikimedia-gh(a)lists.wikimedia.org; >> wikimediake-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wikimediaza; Erik Zachte >> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia ZA] page edits per country ... >> >> >> >> Hi Rupert >> >> Thank you for the statistics! >> >> I have often wondered that question and perhaps it is something we should >> ask Erik Zachte who collates the stats (and is now cc’d in this email). >> However, I am also not sure what exactly how to define a ‘real’ edit >> (excuse my naïveté). Does it mean one not created by a bot? Or the length >> of the text contributed, or indeed the quality of text. I am not sure how >> one measures the difference and if there is a tool for doing so. >> >> Erik, perhaps you could clarify for us? >> >> Warmest >> Isla >> ------------------------------ >> >> WikiAfrica >> >> *Isla Haddow-Flood*Project Manager: Africa >> >> tel: +27 21 418 3336 >> skype: islahaddow >> twitter: @wikiafrica >> et started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiAfrica >> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Islahaddow >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com> >> *Date: *Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:16:23 +0100 >> *To: *"wikimedia-gh(a)lists.wikimedia.org" < >> wikimedia-gh(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, "wikimediake-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org" < >> wikimediake-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, wikimediaza < >> wikimediaza(a)lists.wikimedia.org> >> *Subject: *[Wikimedia ZA] page edits per country ... >> >> hi >> >> here page edits per month and country: >> >> http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageEditsPerCountryO… >> >> for Africa: >> 15'000 Egypt >> 10'000 south Africa >> 6'000 algeria >> 5'000 marocco >> 3'000 tunesia >> 2'000 kenya >> 1'000 angola >> 1'000 ghana >> >> I am wondering how these numbers should be read. How many real edits does >> it mean? >> >> rupert >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list >> WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaza >> > > > -- > +Rexford <https://plus.google.com/+Nkansahrexford> | +CG Central<https://plus.google.com/b/103109918657638322478/103109918657638322478/posts> | > +233 266 811 165 l BFCT<http://www.blendernetwork.org/member/nkansah-rexford-nyarko/> | > Wikimedian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nkansahrexford> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-GH mailing list > Wikimedia-GH(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-gh > > -- Best, Enock Seth Nyamador. * Planning Wikimedia Ghana <http://planningwikimediaghana.blogspot.com/> *| *C: +233 (0)27 565 7589*

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page edits per country ...
by rupert THURNER 27 Nov '13

27 Nov '13

hi here page edits per month and country: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageEditsPerCountryO… for Africa: 15'000 Egypt 10'000 south Africa 6'000 algeria 5'000 marocco 3'000 tunesia 2'000 kenya 1'000 angola 1'000 ghana I am wondering how these numbers should be read. How many real edits does it mean? rupert

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Some interesting discussion of the WikiPR debacle
by David Richfield 21 Nov '13

21 Nov '13

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1r35wf/wikipedia_names_texas_pr_… A sample: yeah, seriously. honestly I completely understand that type of thing happening on social media sites like facebook or reddit. But wikipedia is kind of sacred imo. It's mission is one of the greatest things to come from the internet age and these douchebags are treating it as an advertising platform. David Sent from a mobile device.

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Wiki Loves Monuments: Prize giving dinner invitation
by Dumisani 20 Nov '13

20 Nov '13

Hello community members We have 12 seats available at the prize giving dinner to be held this weekend in Midrand, Gauteng. 3 of the above seats will be available to members outside Gauteng and will cover flight or transportation and accommodation costs. We request the pleasure of your company at the prize giving evening for Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 to be held as follows: Date: 23 November 2013 Time: 17h30 for 18h00 pm Venue: The Premier hotel - Midrand 187 Third Road, Halfway Gardens, Midrang, Gauteng GPS: 25°59'8.12"S; 28° 7'19.93"E Please RSVP by end of tomorrow Thursday 21/11/2013. Sorry for this short notice. Looking forward to an evening of reflection with you. Regards Dumisani Ndubane On behalf Wikimedia ZA

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