Following on from Kerryn's post, *please help*!
Things that need to be done by folks who signed up to handle chapter
- Respond to comments posted on meta (regarding chapter rules)
- Finalise a list of founding members and directors of Wikimedia SA
- Finalise chapter rules and submit them to the chapters committee
- Follow up with the chapters committee until the chapter is approved
If some of you can individually sign up on these tasks and get going,
we'll have a chapter soon.
Good morning everyone.
I hope everyone is doing great.
I am really starting to understand that there is no clear guideline and
structure that is implemented for WMSA as of yet.
Is it possible that we can assign a constitutional committee like 'normal'
companies do, and have a management structure defined?
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Subject: Re: Nhlanhla Mabaso on Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:31:23 +0200
From: Dwayne Bailey <dwayne(a)translate.org.za>
To: Achal Prabhala <aprabhala(a)gmail.com>
Wow this is really good news, congrats Nhlanhla!
On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 14:24 +0530, Achal Prabhala wrote:
> Dear all,
> Some good news I'd like to relay: recently the Board of Trustees invited
> Nhlanhla Mabaso to join the Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation.
> You can learn more about him here:
> Given his experience in the free culture/ free software movements in
> South Africa - and Africa in general - there will be lots of good advice
> coming our way! And for those who haven't met him yet, I hope you will
> in the weeks and months to come.
> Best wishes,
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Some good news I'd like to relay: recently the Board of Trustees invited
Nhlanhla Mabaso to join the Advisory Board of the Wikimedia Foundation.
You can learn more about him here:
Given his experience in the free culture/ free software movements in
South Africa - and Africa in general - there will be lots of good advice
coming our way! And for those who haven't met him yet, I hope you will
in the weeks and months to come.
Thanks for contacting me regarding the chapter.
Any help would be appreciated. I see that you have
already added your name to the Meta page. Most of the things we discuss happen
on either the Meta page or on our mailing list. I see that you have also already
registered to receive updates from the list. Just keep an eye on the list. Feel
free to comment on anything that happens on the list or on the Meta page. That
way you can see with what you can help.
I have also copied this message to the list. That way the
other people also know about your willingness to help. It seems like you could
be of great help to us!
--- On Tue, 10/19/10, ArieScheurwater <robert(a)scheurwater.org> wrote:
From: ArieScheurwater <robert(a)scheurwater.org>
Subject: Meta e-mail
To: "LouriePieterse" <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 4:32 PM
To Mr. Pieterse
My name is Arie Robert Scheurwater.
I just read on WikiMedia South Africa that you and your team are drafting a constitution. I would like to know if I can be of any help.
I am an advisor to two organizations in South Africa and have gone through the registration protocol with the Department of Social Department in South Africa.
Just some information about myself. I have studied Internet Development at the University of Cambridge got my diploma. Studied Management at the London School of Business and Management got my first Bachelors there. Currently studying Business Information Technology at the University of Greenwich for my second Bachelors and Honours.
I reside in South Africa in Johannesburg.
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Dear Kerryn, thanks for keeping us on track.
I have a couple of observations and suggestions to offer.
There are still a few things that perhaps community members here
(presuming everyone involved is on the list) should decide on
collectively. To the extent that we discuss this with the chapters
committee soon, they will want to know who is behind this, i.e. who the
community members are. The three immediate things that need to be
discussed and resolved are:
(1) Who are the founding members? - Would these be every South African
Wikipedian on this list? All those who participated in the August
workshops plus all others who are interested but couldn't make it? (If
so: perhaps someone like Ian can discuss and compile that list).
this is the corresponding point:
4.1. The first members of the company shall be [names of members,
minimum 7, no maximum numbers].
(2) Who is willing to direct (i.e. be a director) of the Wikimedia South
Africa chapter? This requires real discussion, as these individuals are
committing time to running the organisation, seeding ideas, helping
execute them, etc. It needs a process to ensure that there is both
adequate and fair representation of all interests involved. Perhaps Ian
and you can help lead this process: the questions to be decided are: how
many directors do you want over the legal minimum of 3, who wants to be
a director, if there are more people interested than there are positions
to hold elections, and lastly - though this does not need to be done
immediately - a separation of functions within directors as it makes
sense, for example, a President, Treasurer etc. or as you see fit.
these are the corresponding points:
8.1 Unless otherwise determined by a meeting of members, the number of
directors shall not be less than 3 (three) who are not connected to each
other in the sense that they are not spouses or are not related to each
other or to each other’s spouses within the third degree of consanguinity.
8.2 The first directors of the company shall [insert names].
Other than attending to the comments made by David and Lodewijk (who is
a voting member of chapcom by the way), some decisions will have to be
made regarding who the community proposing this chapter is, and what
responsibilities you will bear.
Getting the kids involved is an excellent idea and it will give the Sepedi
TestWiki a big boast. I agree with Ian, in terms of letting the student’s
interested guide them, but I suppose the list on
plant an idea on some of those students who might not have ideas.
Let me know what I can do to help.
We've hit the deadline for the draft documents being up on meta and I hope
you've all had the chance to read through. A couple of people - thanks
David :) - have made
we will go through and take into account.
The next step in the process will be to clean these up - as per above
comments - and then submit them to the Wikimedia Advisory Committee who will
then read through and revert with their own comments and suggestions.
Ian, is there a way that we can put up a notice saying that these draft
documents are 'closed for comment' or something so that people don't
continue to add to them at this point? (Just a thought).