Hi all,
what I was saying was that instead of seeing this as an issue of Afrikaans
being discriminated against, it should be seen as careless
communication/ignorance on the part of Moleskine. We would all gladly
support them if they announced that their mission was to boost marginalised
languages (those with small wikis/few contributors). However,they expressed
it by saying they want to support indigenous languages, with an assumption
that these two categories overlap.
However Afrikaans is an exception, since it isn't marginalised. They failed
to take that fact into consideration, and hence they raised false
expectations. Then, adding insult to injury, they tried to explain by
saying Afrikaans is not indigenous, rather than that it's not marginalised.
So we need to advise them to be more careful.
On a personal note, let me remind board members that we have previously
discussed the issue of "Afrikaaps" being the marginalised side of
Afrikaans. After I shared a radio interview with you, I was mandated to
contact the panelists, which I did, but without them taking up the offer of
a workshop. More recently UWC has published the first dictionary of
Afrikaaps, so perhaps someone there might be interested in dialogue.
Regards,
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bobby Shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear Shupai,
Kindly remind me what resolution did we take on the issue Deon is raising.
I remember him raising that he applied for the Wikimedian in Residence
position and he made a follow up why he was not selected as a candidate but
instead he was informed they don't recognize Afrikaans, @Deon correct me if
I'm wrong here!
I think I said I was going to write a letter to chastise them for such
kind of harsh response since Rossouw an Afrikaans speaker played a pivotal
role in this project. And I remember Michael speaking but my internet went
down I don't remember how we finally said we were gonna move forward with
this issue? Kindly remind me so that I respond immediately.
Best,
Bobby Shabangu
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 08:00, <deon.steyn(a)ntnis.co.za> wrote:
Hi guys
The very same people that does not recognise Afrikaans as an indigenous
language...
Deon
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From: Bobby Shabangu <bobbyshabangu(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Woensdag 22 September 2021 02:25
To: Tochi Precious <tochiprecious2(a)gmail.com>om>; WikimediaZA List
<wikimediaza(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>; Shupai Mchuchu <
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Ngonidzashe Chipunza <chipunza59(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Re: Kind request for support for AfroCuration
South
Africa event
Dear Tochi,
Thanks for reaching out, we already know about this project from a
presentation made by Papa some couple of months back. Shupai our
administrator will let you know there are more volunteers from the Chapter
and community who would like to take part here.
@Shupai Mchuchu <shupai(a)wikimedia.org.za> kindly note these dates and
send
me a reminder 2 days before it takes place. Also kindly send this to our
community and board to find out if there aren't any volunteers who would
want to take part and volunteer with their time in this project. I'll
certainly be there.
Best regards,
Bobby Shabangu
On Tue, 21 Sept 2021 at 16:59, Tochi Precious <tochiprecious2(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello Bobby, my name is [[User: Tochiprecious]].
I'm one of the
founding members of @wikimediaigbo and also a Wikipedian in Residence
at Moleskine Foundation working on the WikiAfrica Education project.
I pioneered the last AfroCuration on 4th and 5th September in
Mozambique where I worked with the WMF Language Team to get the
Makhuwa language Wikipedia into the incubator. We had over 70
participants and have created over 120 articles since then.
My next program is in S.A, with Constitution Hill and Harambee on 26th
and 27th of October and I would like to ask for your assistance as a
User Group to help train new editors to edit your language Wikipedia,
and also mentor them to become part of your user group and also
knowledge contributors in your language on Wiki.
Also, I would like to find out the languages that the S.A User Group
edits Wiki in.
I'll be looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Thanks a lot
Tochi
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