MediaWiki-l December 2005

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Re: Spell-checker
by Jan Steinman 13 Dec '05

13 Dec '05

> From: Simon Renshaw <simon(a)castortech.com> > > Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)? Personally, I think that's the responsibility of the client. At least Mac OS X has great common spell-checking across all applications, such that I would personally NOT want the server doing it, if it had the slightest negative impact on performance or experience. :::: I'm not looking for culprits because we're all culprits. Every last one of us is doing things that shouldn't be done in a rational society because we haven't known any alternative. -- M. King Hubbert, 1976 :::: :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.IslandSeeds/wiki/Energy> ::::

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Spell-checker
by Simon Renshaw 13 Dec '05

13 Dec '05

Hi, Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)? Thanks!

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Re: Redirecting site errors to the wiki
by Jan Steinman 13 Dec '05

13 Dec '05

> From: Rowan Collins <rowan.collins(a)gmail.com> > > Type http://en.wikipedia.org/WikiWord and see what happens :) > [If it's good enough for Wikipedia...] I guess I should have tried that before asking the list... :-) > As for why not just have your wiki contents there in the first place, > it's because it rules out exposing anything other than articles... That's what I had suspected, but wanted to make sure I hadn't committed some deadly sin! :::: If the energy crisis forces us to diminish automobile use in the cities, stops us from building highways and covering the country with concrete and asphalt, forces us to rehabilitate the railroads, causes us to invest in mass transportation and limits the waste of electrical energy, one can only assume that the Arab nations and the big oil companies have united to save the American Republic. -- John Kenneth Galbraith :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesimths.com/Van>

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Redirecting site errors to the wiki
by Jan Steinman 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

It's been stated here before that one should not put the wiki directly under the root of your site, like "http://www.mysite.com/ WikiWord", but rather have something else in-between, like "http:// www.mysite.com/wiki/WikiWord". I forget the reason for this, and wonder if that reason holds true for a hack I just implemented. I have Apache set up to go to Error.php upon encountering a missing page, which contains the following: <html><head> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=/wiki/<?php echo basename ($_SERVER['REDIRECT_URL']) ?>"> </head><body></body></html> This effectively means that a URL "http://www.mysite.com/WikiWord" will be redirected to "http://www.mysite.com/wiki/WikiWord". Is this a bad thing? Should I just throw up a generic error page instead? :::: I have no doubt that it is possible to give a new direction to technological development, a direction that shall lead it back to the real needs of man, and that also means: to the actual size of man. Man is small, and, therefore, small is beautiful. -- EF Schumaker :::: :::: Jan Steinman, SEEDS http://www.IslandSeeds.org/wiki ::::

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Idea for MediaWiki - Thoughts on how to implement
by Paul Betts 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

Hi! I came up with an idea for MediaWiki and I was wondering if I could get the mailing list's thoughts on it. One of my favorite applications is a program called Tomboy (the site is down, but the wp article on it is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomboy_%28software%29). What would be really awesome is that same kind of simple interface, but attached to a MediaWiki backend, so this personal note-taking tool would be a great way to collaborate. Naturally, for really big wiki's this interface would probably be more cumbersome than anything, but for small group projects it'd be fantastic! Basically, here's what I came up with for how to implement this, but I don't know much about MediaWiki so your opinions would be very valuable; I'm implementing it in .NET to take advantage of the existing Tomboy code (and because I like .NET) 1. Make an ASP.NET web service that responds to SOAP requests and queries the MySQL database directly. - This way is version dependent, somewhat bad in software design because now it's meddling with internal MediaWiki structures - Requires being installed on the server + However, if it works, other applications could use it as well + Doesn't require patching MediaWiki itself 2. Add an RSS feed to get recently changed page names and names of all pages that exist, and use custom POSTs to submit new pages. - Requires patching / adding to MediaWiki - Still need to find a way to get the text of a page in MediaWiki format + Other apps could still use it but it would only work on patched wikis 3. Don't touch the server at all, use screen scraping and post requests to do everything client-side - Ugly, custom themes might bust it - Very version dependent + Works with all MediaWikis I think that this project could definitely make MediaWiki more useful in the area of small-group collaboration. If anyone's interested in helping write it or has any ideas, I'd be glad for the help! -- Paul Betts <paul(a)paulbetts.org>

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Cannot unprotect my own page!
by Martin Baumann 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

Hi, this happens to all of my protected sites! I tried different browsers (firefox, konquerer) different computers and even a windows system => everywhere symw problem What do you mean server losing POST data? How can I find out? Can I change this? It is a server of a university where I cannot do a lot. But isn't it strange that few days ago I could protect the sites and not I cannot unprotect them? Martin MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 12.12.05 17:54:16: > > What page are you trying to unprotect? Also, does this happen on one > particular page or all of them? If the latter, then something's up > with the browser or server losing POST data. > > > Rob Church > > On 12/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost(a)web.de> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am definitely loogen on as SysOp. When I click 'unprotect' I am asked for a reason for unprotecting this site. No matter what I enter here after I clicked the Confirm button I am redirected to just the same site and the same procedure starts. The site is not unprotected !!! > > > > What can be the reason for such a thing? > > > > Thanks, Martin > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! > > Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > MediaWiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193

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RE: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
by Simon Renshaw 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

I understand your concern. But I'm running a small, private wiki so performance is not an issue. I found one at http://mcintosh.cjb.net/wiki/index.php/Spell_Checker but my knowledge of PHP is basically is null. Anybody tried that one or willing to help me install it? -----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jan Steinman Sent: 12 décembre, 2005 13:54 To: mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker > From: Simon Renshaw <simon(a)castortech.com> > > Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)? Personally, I think that's the responsibility of the client. At least Mac OS X has great common spell-checking across all applications, such that I would personally NOT want the server doing it, if it had the slightest negative impact on performance or experience. :::: I'm not looking for culprits because we're all culprits. Every last one of us is doing things that shouldn't be done in a rational society because we haven't known any alternative. -- M. King Hubbert, 1976 :::: :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.IslandSeeds/wiki/Energy> :::: _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Re: External Images with thumb
by Jan Steinman 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

> From: Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost(a)web.de> > > is there a way to use external image links with a thumb preview? You mean as in "goatse.cx"? :-) I think it is generally agreed that allowing arbitrary external images has tons of security and copyright issues. :::: The white man seeks to conquer nature, to bend it to his will and to use it wastefully until it’s all gone and then he simply moves on, leaving the waste behind him and looking for new places to take. The whole white race is a monster who is always hungry and what he eats is land. — Chiksika, elder brother of Tecumseh, March 19, 1779 :::: Jan Steinman, http://www.Bytesmiths.com

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Blocked user options
by Thomas Haws 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

I have noticed this issue at wikien-l, but really only just now grapped with it. When an ip is blocked, user gets the "blocked" message suggesting to ask an admin for clemency. This message seems flawed. Which of the following facts do I have wrong? -blocked user can't get wiki help -blocked user must have e-mail address to get e-mail help -anon user can't set preferences including an e-mail address -therefore blocked anon can't get wiki or e-mail help Here is what needs to be fixed: Standard blocked user message needs to be changed to say: "If you are not logged in you will need to log in and have a verified e-mail address. If you don't have an account, you will need to create one and verify your e-mail address. Even from this blocked ip address, the system will let you create an account and verify an e-mail address so you can contact an administrator." -- Tom Haws 1094 North Martingale Road Gilbert, AZ 85234 Home Office and Fax: 480-807-8417 If you have LOVE, you are already in heaven. If you have no LOVE, you are already living in hell. --Kevin Williams

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
by Johannes Feigl 12 Dec '05

12 Dec '05

> ok, thanks dori, > then i will also access to via normal http. > but the problem is, that there is a transfer of a lot of data, which are > not necessary, i think of the when you open a site with the source-code, > (e.g. > http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Berkshire_Hathaway&action=edit ) > you need only the source-text for the bot. > it's only the part in the textarea > > i think it would be nice of you add to the index.php also the action > "source". > like: "index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=edit", and you only get the > sourcecode of the article "Wikipedia" sorry, i thought about "index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=source" it could also include the hidden input arguments you get when using "edit", could look like something like that when opening that page: :wpSection 20051211120204:wpStarttime 20051210103959:wpEdittime :wpScrolltop SOURCE the same for the action "submit". we could also make an action called "botsubmit" which only tells an error code something like 0 = ok 1 = timestamp error 2 = site is locked i think can also write a patch for the CVS-version of mediawiki if you think this would be nice! i think this would be very easy and could improve the speed for bots and decrease the load of the servers! what do you think about? mfg johannes

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