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Re: [Wikimedia ZA] WMZA banking situation
by Mohau Monaledi 02 Jul '12

02 Jul '12

Hi Charlene, Who is the contact at the bank and which documents do I need to take with? Regards Mohau On Thursday, June 28, 2012, Charlene Foster wrote: > Hi Lourie, > > Spoke to Mohau yesterday and he will go to the bank tomorrow to sign and > we should have the account details shortly there after. > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Lourie Pieterse < > louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > 'louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com');>> wrote: > >> Hello Nola >> >> Any news on the progress of Wikimedia ZA's bank account? Some time has >> passed now, and I haven't hear a thing. The last time I heard from FNB was >> on 21 May when the Stellenbosch (Neelsie) branch asked me to whom they >> should mail the documents, to which I replied that they must contact you >> for the details. Can you please look into this for me, as it is today a >> moth later? Thank you so much! >> >> Kind regards >> Lourie >> > > > > -- > Charlene Foster > +27 82 850 5740 > > *"At the feast of Ego everyone leaves hungry" * > >

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Re: [Wikimedia ZA] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Contact users using bot
by Lourie Pieterse 02 Jul '12

02 Jul '12

Thanks Béria, you are a lifesaver! :) Yes, we would like to contact them on en.wiki. Currently there are many South African wikimedians that are not on our mailing lists and we would like to let them know about WLM, because we need extra hands to help us with the competition and we would like to spread the word in the community. As our chapter is very young, we still need to reach out to those South Africans we "missed" originally when establishing the chapter. Kind regards Lourie >________________________________ > From: Béria Lima <beria.lima(a)wikimedia.pt> >To: Lourie Pieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com>; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org> >Cc: Dumisani Ndubane <dumisanin(a)iburst.co.za> >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 3:32 PM >Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Contact users using bot > > >You wanna contact then in en.wiki? I can do that with my bot. Please contact me off list (or IRC - nick Beria) to explain me the details. >_____ >Béria Lima > >Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. > > > >On 28 June 2012 20:49, Lourie Pieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >Hello everyone >> >> >>We would like to contact all the users part of WikiProject South Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_South_Africa/Participants) to ask them if they would like to get involved in the project, as we can do with some extra hands. In addition to this, we would also like to create the categories that are still outstanding on Commons. Does anyone know someone can I contact that operates a bot that can do this for us? Thanks for your time, it is appreciated. >> >> >>Kind regardsLourie >>_______________________________________________ >>Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > > >

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WMZA baking situation
by Lourie Pieterse 29 Jun '12

29 Jun '12

Hello Nola Any news on the progress of Wikimedia ZA's bank account? Some time has passed now, and I haven't hear a thing. The last time I heard from FNB was on 21 May when the Stellenbosch (Neelsie) branch asked me to whom they should mail the documents, to which I replied that they must contact you for the details. Can you please look into this for me, as it is today a moth later? Thank you so much! Kind regards Lourie

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WLM Budget
by Lourie Pieterse 28 Jun '12

28 Jun '12

Hello everyone I have made a few changes to the WLM budget proposed by Dumisani. Most of them is minor. Take a look at the document on Google Drive and please comment. Many (if not most) of the expenses currently in the budget will get covered by government support, if they still want to support us up to such an extend. The balance of the budget we should then apply a grant for. Currently there are many expenses which could probably be left out, be for now we want it as thorough as possible. Also, it would be excellent if we could get the responses as soon as possible, because we would like to present this next week to our Western Cape Heritage contacts. And, as we all know, the WMF grants process can be slow, so we would like to submit the grant as quickly as possible. Thanks. Kind regards Lourie

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Struggling with the monuments database
by maarten deneckere 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Hey all, we got a sample file of the monuments database. I asked this to allow us to see what kind of information we can use, and what type of processing we have to do. Download the file on http://geneeskundestuderen.com/SampleDeclaredSites.xls I'm no real database expert, who could help us with extracting all the necessary information out of this file? Regards, Maarten 2012/6/25 maarten deneckere <maartendeneckere(a)gmail.com> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Nicholas Wiltshire <NWILTSHIRE(a)sahra.org.za> > Date: 2012/6/25 > Subject: Re: Struggling with the monuments database > To: maarten deneckere <maartendeneckere(a)gmail.com> > > > Hi Maarten - thanks for your email. Attached is the sample extract of the > database. I just migrated the sites to our server on Friday and am busy > linking up the declaration history to the sites. You can ignore the Primary > key column - between you and I we'll simply assign a new autoincrement ID > field numbered 1-3580 so that it's easy later on to match our dbase to the > wiki photos. > I'll send you the MOU as soon as Herma is done checking it - but she > mentioned that I should not expect it this week - but at least you can > carry on with the sample as the structure is half the job.. > All the best, > Nic > > >>> maarten deneckere <maartendeneckere(a)gmail.com> 22/06/2012 18:39 >>> > Hey Nicholas, > > I hope everything goes well. I'm back on holiday and focussing again on the > competition :-) > > From the earlier competition in Europe I know we will run into some > problems on the monument database. We have to process it and turn it into a > data structure that we can use on Wikipedia, on Commons and on our own > website. This takes quite a lot of work. > > Can you send us a "sample" of the monument database? Let's say of about 200 > monuments in a certain region. We will use this sample data to learn what > kind of processing we have to do on the whole data set. This will speed up > the process if we would get the full database. > > Off course, this is a sample file: we will only use it to test the > processing and will remove all the information afterwards. > > Groete, > Maarten Deneckere > > >

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Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Fwd: Struggling with the monuments database
by Lourie Pieterse 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

What type of database tasks should we do with it? I have done some DB programming, but I don't know any of the real advanced stuff. Lourie >________________________________ > From: maarten deneckere <maartendeneckere(a)gmail.com> >To: Isla Haddow-Flood <islahf(a)africacentre.net>; dumisanin(a)iburst.co.za; Lourie Pieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com>; Charlene Foster <afrastocracy(a)gmail.com>; Blessing Chataira <blessing(a)itoca.org> >Cc: wikimediaza <WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org> >Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 10:35 AM >Subject: Fwd: Struggling with the monuments database > > >Hey all, > >in attach a sample file of the monuments database. I asked this to allow us to see what kind of information we can use, and what type of processing we have to do. > >I'm no real database expert, who could help us with extracting all the necessary information out of this file? > >Regards, >Maarten > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: Nicholas Wiltshire <NWILTSHIRE(a)sahra.org.za> >Date: 2012/6/25 >Subject: Re: Struggling with the monuments database >To: maarten deneckere <maartendeneckere(a)gmail.com> > > >Hi Maarten - thanks for your email. Attached is the sample extract of the database. I just migrated the sites to our server on Friday and am busy linking up the declaration history to the sites. You can ignore the Primary key column - between you and I we'll simply assign a new autoincrement ID field numbered 1-3580 so that it's easy later on to match our dbase to the wiki photos. >I'll send you the MOU as soon as Herma is done checking it - but she mentioned that I should not expect it this week - but at least you can carry on with the sample as the structure is half the job.. >All the best, >Nic > >>>> maarten deneckere <maartendeneckere(a)gmail.com> 22/06/2012 18:39 >>> > >Hey Nicholas, > >I hope everything goes well. I'm back on holiday and focussing again on the >competition :-) > >From the earlier competition in Europe I know we will run into some >problems on the monument database. We have to process it and turn it into a >data structure that we can use on Wikipedia, on Commons and on our own >website. This takes quite a lot of work. > >Can you send us a "sample" of the monument database? Let's say of about 200 >monuments in a certain region. We will use this sample data to learn what >kind of processing we have to do on the whole data set. This will speed up >the process if we would get the full database. > >Off course, this is a sample file: we will only use it to test the >processing and will remove all the information afterwards. > >Groete, >Maarten Deneckere > > > > >

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WLM magazine feature and judges
by Lourie Pieterse 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Hello everyone See below my discussion with Johann regarding media coverage and potential judges. One of the topics discussed is whether we want a formal agreement with a media house such as Media24. Johann explained the pros and cons of such an agreement below. Please give me your thoughts so that we can decide on how to approach this, as we need to start to think about promoting our project in the media. Thanks! Kind regards Lourie ----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: Lourie Pieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> >To: Johann Van Tonder (Naspers) <jvtond(a)media24.com> >Cc: Dumisani Ndubane <dumisanin(a)iburst.co.za>; Maarten Deneckere <maartendeneckere(a)gmail.com>; Isla Haddow-Flood <islahf(a)africacentre.net>; Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:28 PM >Subject: Re: WLM magazine feature and judges > > >Thanks for the rapid response. I understood that you are jut planning on moving to Franschhoek, but either way, I am happy to hear that you are close to Stellenbosch now. > > >The introduction will be great. I am also happy to hear that there are some photographers that you have in mind. I now understand the concept behind media sponsorship much better, and your argument makes sense. I will discuss it will my fellow WLM organisers and come back to you. > > >Kind regards >Lourie > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Johann Van Tonder (Naspers) <jvtond(a)media24.com> >>To: Lourie Pieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> >>Cc: Dumisani Ndubane <dumisanin(a)iburst.co.za>; Maarten Deneckere <maartendeneckere(a)gmail.com>; Isla Haddow-Flood <islahf(a)africacentre.net>; Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> >>Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:34 AM >>Subject: RE: WLM magazine feature and judges >> >> >> >>Hi Lourie, >> >>The email address still works as I’m still consulting for Naspers. As I told you I moved out to Franschhoek so I’m around the corner from you. >> >>Responses inline below. >> >>Regards, >>johann >> >> >>From:Lourie Pieterse [mailto:louriepieterse@yahoo.com] >>Sent: 21 June 2012 09:53 PM >>To: Johann Van Tonder (Naspers) >>Cc: Dumisani Ndubane; Maarten Deneckere; Isla Haddow-Flood; Douglas Scott >>Subject: WLM magazine feature and judges >> >>Hello Johann >> >>I hope that I am still able to reach you at this email address, as I read the other day that you are no longer working for Naspers. I would like to come back to you regarding our previous meeting. There are essentially four things we need to ask your help with, listed below: >> >>1) We are probably a little late to still get featured in Huisgenoot, You, and Drum, but I believe we should still give it a try. One can always be lucky! Do you maybe know someone at these magazines whom we can contact directly? A nice little introduction would be even better! :) This is one of those cases where I don't want to send an email to info(a)something.com and await two months to get referred to the right person. Otherwise, if you believe that we have waited too long, we can be better prepared next year. >> >>Go directly to the editor-in-chief, Izelle Venter: Izelle(a)media24.com. I can make an introduction over the weekend. >> >>2) You said that you know some professional photographers. Can you please put us in contact with them? It would be nice if we could have a preliminary list of potential judges and then ask for further nominations. That way there is a little less to stress about. We will make a plan later on how to only get the best images to the professionals. >> >>Yes, let me think about who would be the best to advise and I’ll let you know. >> >>3) I would also like to follow the idea up of asking certain publications, such as the daily papers, for specific sponsorships. For example the best shipwreck photo sponsored by Die Burger, or something like that. Can you also please put us in contact with people at these papers who would be best to contact? Are there any specific papers you think we should focus on? >> >>I suspect tiny misunderstanding here. I was talking about media sponsorship, which is a different concept. A media house, like Media24, then becomes your exclusive media partner and no other media will get the story. As I said later in the meeting, I don’t believe this is the best route for this project, because you want exactly the opposite - as much coverage from as wide a range of publications as possible. >> >>The best way to engage specific publications is to give them interesting stories and pictures, relevant to their specific readership segment. They use that as a news peg to publicise the event. >> >>4) We talked during the meeting about a media partnership with Naspers/Media24. Do you think this idea is still viable, and if so, what route should we follow to establish such a partnership? We must still discuss between ourselves whether we would like such a partnership, but it would be good if we know if advance how probably such as partnership is of being established. >> >>See above. I really don’t think it’s wise in this case. Apart from limiting your coverage, it’s not very “open” which is what wikipedia is all about... >> >>Thank you so much for your time, it is really appreciated! I don't know what we would have done without it. >> >>Kind regards >>Lourie >>This email and its contents are subject to an email legal notice that can be viewed at: http://www.naspers.com/email/disclaimer.htmlShould you be unable to access the link provided, please email us for a copy at csc(a)optinet.net >>Hierdie e-pos en sy inhoud is onderhewig aan 'n regskennisgewing oor elektroniese pos wat gelees kan word by http://www.naspers.com/epos/vrywaring.html'n Afskrif kan aangevra word by csc(a)optinet.net >> >> > >

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WLM-2012: Updates
by Dumisani Ndubane 24 Jun '12

24 Jun '12

Hi guys Here are some updates on Wiki Loves Monuments: 1) WLM-ZA Social network pages are up and running. Please like/follow these pages and start enviting others too. Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WikiLovesMonumentsZa Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/WLM_ZA <https://twitter.com/#%21/WLM_ZA> Organizing team members who are not yet admins for the above pages, please e-mail me or Isla for Admin rights. 2) WLM-ZA website is also online. we are busy tweeking and adding functionality to this page. Please assist with proof reading and content addition as we still have some "red links". http://wikilovesmonuments.co.za/wiki/Main_Page You can also check the time line of activities we still need to complete. 3) WLM-ZA Budget document is almost matured now. We have managed to bring down the total budget cost for this national competition down to R490K. This is modest compared to national projects of similar dimensions. I have added my suggestions on who we should be targeting for funding of specific parts of this budget. Please post your comments online. This document was shared before. If you still dont have the link to the google document please e-mail me. We need final comments by next Wednesday 27th June in order to send funding request within the 60 day limit before the start of the competition. Its been a good 3 weeks, lets not tire out now. Kindest regards Dumi

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Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Contact details of heritage departments
by Lourie Pieterse 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

Hello Andrew Thank you for the contact details, we are looking forward to collaborating with the other provinces. Regarding the endorsement letter; I see that it is addressed to Africa Centre for the WikiAfrica project. I think that there must have been a misunderstanding along the way, because this is actually a project of Wikimedia ZA in which Africa Centre is assisting us. Will it be possible to change it to read "Partnership with Wikimedia ZA: Wiki Loves Monuments" instead of what it currently reads? The Wiki Loves Monuments project was created and is run by the Wikimedia chapters which requires this endorsement to be addressed to the South African chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation. Our registered address is below: Wikimedia ZA 699 Pierneef street Pretoria 0084 Also, will it be possible for us to meet again with you sometime next week? We would like to discuss the details of the project in more detail. Thanks again. Kind regards Lourie >________________________________ > From: Andrew Hall <Andrew.Hall(a)pgwc.gov.za> >To: 'Lourie Pieterse' <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> >Cc: "schristians(a)ncpg.gov.za" <schristians(a)ncpg.gov.za>; "Loudine Philip (loudine.philip(a)nasmus.co.za)" <loudine.philip(a)nasmus.co.za> >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:32 AM >Subject: RE: Contact details of heritage departments > > > >Dear Lourie > >Attached please find the Endorsement letter for Wiki Africa > >The contact details of Heritage department in other provinces are as follows : > >Heritage Northern Cape >Shane Christians - Deputy Director of Heritage in the Northern Cape Tel No: 053 803 4711/93 Email : schristians(a)ncpg.gov.za > >Heritage Free State >Loudine Philip Tel No: 0784489307 Email : Loudine.philip(a)nasmus.co.za > >Heritage KwaZulu Natal (Amafa) >Barry Marshall Tel No: 082 820 1771 Email : marshallb(a)telkomsa.net > >Regards > >Ameerah Peters >Secretary to the Chief Executive Officer >Heritage Western Cape >Tel: 021 483 9598 >Fax: 021 483 9845 >Postal: Private Bag X9067. Cape Town. 8000 >Deliveries: 3rd Flr. Protea Assurance Bldg, Green Market Sqr. Cape Town > > > > > > > >From:Lourie Pieterse [mailto:louriepieterse@yahoo.com] >Sent: 21 June 2012 09:16 PM >To: Ameerah Peters >Cc: Andrew Hall; Douglas Scott; WikimediaZA >Subject: FW: Contact details of heritage departments > >Hello Ameerah > >I am happy that we talked today. Thank you for taking the time finalising the endorsement and getting the contact details of the other provinces. > >Coming back to meeting again with Andrew; do he have any openings in his diary next week? > >Kind regards >Lourie > >>----- Forwarded Message ----- >>From: Lourie Pieterse <louriepieterse(a)yahoo.com> >>To: "Andrew.Hall(a)pgwc.gov.za" <Andrew.Hall(a)pgwc.gov.za> >>Cc: "Ameerah.Peters(a)pgwc.gov.za" <Ameerah.Peters(a)pgwc.gov.za>; WikimediaZA Board <wikimedia-za-board(a)lists.wikimedia.org> >>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:55 PM >>Subject: Contact details of heritage departments >> >>Hello Andrew >> >>I hope that you are well. Regarding our (Wikimedia ZA running the Wiki Loves Monuments competition) previous meeting; can you please send me the contact details of the heritage departments of the other provinces? We would like to contact them and get them involved in the project. Also, any news on the proof of endorsement? Thanks for your time, it is appreciated. >> >>Kindest regards >>Lourie >> >"All views or opinions expressed in this electronic message and its attachments are the view of the sender and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of the Western Cape Government (the WCG). No employee of the WCG is entitled to conclude a binding contract on behalf of the WCG unless he/she is an accounting officer of the WCG, or his or her authorised representative. The information contained in this message and its attachments may be confidential or privileged and is for the use of the named recipient only, except where the sender specifically states otherwise. If you are not the intended recipient you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone." > >

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Next steps WLM ZA
by maarten deneckere 22 Jun '12

22 Jun '12

Hey, as we are a little bit behind schedule, I went trough the checklist start advertising the project in your local Wikimedia community -> to be done. I can do Afrikaans (but need help on this), who will do English and Sotho/Xhosa/... -> pre-announcement at the local Village Dump start a discussion on defining communication channels -> I propose to use email (we can use the existing mailinglist WikimediaZA(a)lists.wikimedia.org), Twitter (who makes a new Twitter account? eg. WikiMonumentsZA ) lists of monuments ->tomorrow with SAHRA, important meeting! structure the lists, allow for people to report errors ->to be done create a local helpdesk ->to be done, I propose to use a subpagina of the commons page website -> fill with content (see examples of the other countries, easy) -> finish the content for that website IRL meeting -> would be good. Mid June in Joburg? Start looking for sponsorships ->tbd Think on promotion material ->I will arrange with Andrew Start working on local events programme ->Who wants to help with this? (I now have to run of to the meeting with the journalist :-)) Groete, Maarten

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