MediaWiki-l October 2007

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Making search "and" by default
by Jack Eapen C 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Hi all, I started this discussion. I don't know where it is heading for now.. :) As a layman, I wonder why such a robust software like mediawiki doesn't provide some nice search features! It boasts of many other features..... Even any simple php-MySQL application provide some kind of advanced search features (without Lucene or similar stuff) like search in title or full-text, search for all the words (AND) or any of the words (OR) or exact phrase, etc. I don't know what prevents developers from providing these features.. Could someone explain please? Regards, Jack ---------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Daly Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:30 AM To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Making search "and" by default Domas Mituzas wrote: > They were experimenting with that lately. Thats how searching for > 'domas' ended up with DOMA on top ;) I recently searched on "Johann..." and google kept hitting "John..." and other language equivalents. Google's searching can be annoyingly non-specific at times. In any "advanced search" I'd like to tell it to find/not find plurals or singulars, other languages etc. Google even modifies the search parameters for quoted (i.e. exact text) terms. Mike _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l This electronic mail (including any attachment thereto) may be confidential and privileged and is intended only for the individual or entity named above. Any unauthorized use, printing, copying, disclosure or dissemination of this communication may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Accordingly, if you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this email immediately and delete this email (and any attachment thereto) from your computer system...Thank You

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Making search "and" by default
by Jack Eapen C 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Hi, I think if use multiple word seach in MW, the default Boolean operator used is "OR". How can we make it "AND"? I wonder why MW, even being such a great s/w, not providing some advanced search features built-in Regards, Jack Eapen C SunTec Knowledge Centre ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ "When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt" This electronic mail (including any attachment thereto) may be confidential and privileged and is intended only for the individual or entity named above. Any unauthorized use, printing, copying, disclosure or dissemination of this communication may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Accordingly, if you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this email immediately and delete this email (and any attachment thereto) from your computer system...Thank You

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Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded (Database.php line 797)
by Daniel Barrett 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

I am seeing this PHP error in my Apache logs 10-15 times per day, out of thousands of hits: Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in D:\mediawiki\w\includes\Database.php on line 797 which incidentally is the call to "mysql_query($sql, $this->mConn)" in function doQuery(). The wiki pages in question are ordinary and shouldn't take 30 seconds to render. The wiki server is pingable during these errors. The MySQL logs show no errors. And almost all of the time, the wiki runs fine. I'm sure there are a zillion possible causes. Any tips for isolating the root cause? (This is on Windows 2003 Server.) MediaWiki: 1.11.0 PHP: 5.2.2-dev (apache2handler) MySQL: 5.0.27-community-nt DanB

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] how to have diff show entire section, not just differences
by Monahon, Peter B. 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

(Starting from http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2007-October/024031.htm l) >> Earlier: How can I set the default edit >> history diff to show the entire section >> being edited left and right, not just the few >> lines surrounding displayed differences? > Response #1: ...hack up DifferenceEngine.php > to identify section breaks and add extra > stuff to output... Peter Blaise responds: Thanks for the pointer on one place to study the issue: ...\mediawiki\includes\DifferenceEngine.php > Response #2: ... wikEd has a library for > embedding DIFFs into the page: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cacycle/wikEdDiff Peter Blaise responds: From that page: "...Unchanged regions of the text are omitted from the output..." ... so I have the same challenge with wikiEdDiff - how to show the ENTIRE comparison? So, I'm really trying to get a "comparison" feature, not merely a "difference" feature. COMPARE versus DIFF: I think I am looking for a "COMPARE article/section versions in toto" function, rather than, or as a supplement to, the current "DIFF" function, which has only minimal lines immediately before and after any differences. DIFF DEPTH: I think, however, I'd like to also have a toggle for punctuation and white space differences, versus text content, in a diff display, so "mere" commas and other punctuation do not generate a diff report line, if I so choose. That would be a nice variable option in a "diff" function - to control depth of diff analysis and display. So far, I see a potential for three or four desired options for diffs: - punctuation and/or white space on/off, - text on/off, - total comparison on/off. That "total comparison" is the prime goal I am after at the moment. Right now, in MediaWiki, I note that it's as if options one and two above are on, and option three above is off. How to turn it on? COMPARE ARTICLES: Hey, it's a database that never throws anything away! What will it take to compare anything in that history to anything else in that history? Others here may have ideas for enhanced choices they are looking for in a history difference display, or even a comparison between articles. That is, wouldn't it be nice to compare live MediaWiki articles, not just the historical editing differences underneath only one article? "Why," you might well ask? Well, I might well say ... when cleaning up our wiki, I often come across articles that appear redundant, maybe. I have to read them both. They appear to have similar contents but slightly (or vastly) different names, say, [[Chapter 700]] versus [[Chapter 0700]]. What are these? Which, if either, is most current? Were these identical copies entered by different people trying to superimpose their own different sense of nomenclature order on the wiki? I don't know! The only way I can figure out how to have MediaWiki help me compare them is to cut and paste the contents of one article over the contents of the other article, then do an edit history diff. If I could only do a diff between live articles first, then that would save a step. Also, such a "diff" feature comparing live articles would have nice benefits for the regular end-user, allowing them to see live comparisons between any live pages of their own choice and control. In our case (law history), I can see a desire to compare current law pages versus archive (old law) pages. Again, "Why," you might well ask? Well ... our wiki's prime namespace contains current legal decisions released for comment on the discussion/talk pages. Before commenting, people would like to compare the current release to past releases so they don't re-make old suggestions, like, "Why don't we do such-and-such?" and another person may say, "We tried that last time and it failed, don't you remember the prior version?" It would be nice if the wiki, using it's superlative database record keeping, offered to compare any stored versions for the reader - an extension of the single-page "diff" feature into an "any-pages" diff. So, I'd like to create a wiki namespace for previous (retired) law releases so these old pages do not come up in the current namespace search or listings (why else hide articles in alternative namespaces?). Putting old versions in separate namespaces would allow redundant identical page names through time: [[1stEdition:Chapter 700]] [[2ndEdition:Chapter 700]] [[3rdEdition:Chapter 700]] But, my challenge is how to allow the visitor to compare two live pages, one from each edition? Right now, I use the single-page "diff" feature by carefully uploading (editing) the 4th edition copy first and put it into the main namespace, then uploading (editing) the 5th edition copy right on top of it. I then have two, and only two, revisions in the diff history for each article. Great. (Sort of ... for all my effort to upload the entire older edition of the law, the older edition is lost down in the single-page diffs, and is not searchable on it's own in it's own namespace! Drat!) But, that takes care of the recent two versions of that law release - versions I have ready access to original files. But, when I finally find and want to upload an even older edition from the ancient, off-line archives, how do I then put that older version *behind* the current earlier history rather than on top of the latest version? In other words, how to I edit the diff histories to put them in the order I prefer? Simple: - delete the entire page first and start from scratch! - upload 3rd edition - upload 4th edition on top of it - upload 5th edition on top of it Whew! Argh! But, then, after all that careful building, anyone can compare any edition using the single-page edit-history diff feature. And, of course, the earlier, now buried editions are not searchable. ... if I could merely upload each antique archive edition to it's own namespace... ... and if I had a live article comparison feature... ... then the visitor could compare anything on their own! Thanks for reading through all this, and thinking about the potential generated by the "diff" feature. It's all just tools, and I suppose we each are just building surprisingly different universes with our various MediaWiki engines and extension tools. If anyone has any energies to keep pursuing this idea, please share here (http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l), or on http://www.MediaWiki.org/ and let's see where this goes.

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how to use index.php != $wgScript
by Carsten.Schmidt＠HannIT.de 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Hello list, after upgrading mediawiki from 1.10 to 1.11 I got a problem accessing my content. I added a second index.php with some different settings. $wgScript is index.php Whenever I try to access content over index2.php, the output is the mainpage: http://wiki/index.php/ContentX -> ContentX http://wiki/index2.php/ContentX -> Mainpage but http://wiki/index2.php?title=ContentX works fine. Can anyone help me making that work? Carsten Schmidt

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creating specialpages
by Michael Heyder 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

Hallo, could anyone out there instruct me how to create specialpages. And furthermore to call them Myname: abc thxs mic

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Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Wikimedia Conference of the Americas
by fredbaud＠waterwiki.info 16 Oct '07

16 Oct '07

-----Original Message----- From: fredbaud(a)waterwiki.info [mailto:fredbaud@waterwiki.info] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 04:09 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Cc: wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Wikimedia Conference of the Americas Found on ibiblio's IRC channel a link to Wikimedia Conference of the Americas http://www.cota-atlanta.org/ Their wiki: http://www.cota-atlanta.org/wiki/Main_Page Fred _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

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Extension:SyntaxHighlight GeSHi - Installation Instructions - Line does not exist
by HeinzJ 15 Oct '07

15 Oct '07

from http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi: If needed, change the following line in SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi.class.php to suit the path of your geshi.php file require_once( 'geshi/geshi.php' ); that line does'nt exist there!

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upgrade from 1.5 to 1.7
by Sean Branam 15 Oct '07

15 Oct '07

I am trying to upgrade form 1.5 to 1.7 After installing everything I attempt to import the sql backup. I am getting this error. ERROR 1146 (42S02) at line 12: Table 'mysql.time_zone_name' doesn't exist Is this table no longer in 1.7 ? How do I solve this? Thanks in advance! Sean

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Transcluding only initial portion of an article
by Jack Eapen C 15 Oct '07

15 Oct '07

Hi All, I want to display first para of an article on my home page box-featured article. Can I set some parameter like no. of characters or so, such that I can translude, say 100 chars from an article on the home page and then provide a "read more..." link? Regards, Jack Eapen C SunTec Knowledge Centre ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ "When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt" This electronic mail (including any attachment thereto) may be confidential and privileged and is intended only for the individual or entity named above. Any unauthorized use, printing, copying, disclosure or dissemination of this communication may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. Accordingly, if you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender by replying to this email immediately and delete this email (and any attachment thereto) from your computer system...Thank You

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