Dear ZAnians,
Greetings from Berlin. Douglas, Mpho and Coenraad are also here but so far we've each been doing our own thing since there are several simultaneous tracks in the conference. Here, I'm reporting on something that only I attended, but which (I think) requires the attention of the chapter, namely the Community Capacity Map https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map#Community_Capacity_Map (CCM).
You'll see it's not a geographical map but a table which lists the capacities of affiliates.While the presenter was clear that there is no requirement that affiliates fill in all (or even any) of the categories, in his presentation of the purpose of the CCM it was obvious to me that we as a chapter stand to benefit - since the ever-growing staff of the Wikimedia Foundation will use the map as one of their tools in deciding where to allocate support.
You may also notice that I experimentally started a row for Wikimedia-ZA but I now feel I should consult the collective on the process for going forward. The template used takes some getting used to. Quite possibly in future the information will be displayed in a more intuitive way - perhaps even a real map. But I think we should submit it so long.
What do others think?
Thanks for the update Mike.
Regards, Bobby Shabangu
On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 22:00 Michael Graaf, graaf.michael@gmail.com wrote:
Dear ZAnians,
Greetings from Berlin. Douglas, Mpho and Coenraad are also here but so far we've each been doing our own thing since there are several simultaneous tracks in the conference. Here, I'm reporting on something that only I attended, but which (I think) requires the attention of the chapter, namely the Community Capacity Map < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map#Community_Capacity_Ma...
(CCM).
You'll see it's not a geographical map but a table which lists the capacities of affiliates.While the presenter was clear that there is no requirement that affiliates fill in all (or even any) of the categories, in his presentation of the purpose of the CCM it was obvious to me that we as a chapter stand to benefit - since the ever-growing staff of the Wikimedia Foundation will use the map as one of their tools in deciding where to allocate support.
You may also notice that I experimentally started a row for Wikimedia-ZA but I now feel I should consult the collective on the process for going forward. The template used takes some getting used to. Quite possibly in future the information will be displayed in a more intuitive way - perhaps even a real map. But I think we should submit it so long.
What do others think?
-- *Michael Graaf*
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I think it's something very important for the chapter to consider and implement.
kind regards, Bobby Shabangu
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 08:03 Bobby Shabangu, bobbyshabangu@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the update Mike.
Regards, Bobby Shabangu
On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 22:00 Michael Graaf, graaf.michael@gmail.com wrote:
Dear ZAnians,
Greetings from Berlin. Douglas, Mpho and Coenraad are also here but so far we've each been doing our own thing since there are several simultaneous tracks in the conference. Here, I'm reporting on something that only I attended, but which (I think) requires the attention of the chapter, namely the Community Capacity Map < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map#Community_Capacity_Ma...
(CCM).
You'll see it's not a geographical map but a table which lists the capacities of affiliates.While the presenter was clear that there is no requirement that affiliates fill in all (or even any) of the categories, in his presentation of the purpose of the CCM it was obvious to me that we as a chapter stand to benefit - since the ever-growing staff of the Wikimedia Foundation will use the map as one of their tools in deciding where to allocate support.
You may also notice that I experimentally started a row for Wikimedia-ZA but I now feel I should consult the collective on the process for going forward. The template used takes some getting used to. Quite possibly in future the information will be displayed in a more intuitive way - perhaps even a real map. But I think we should submit it so long.
What do others think?
-- *Michael Graaf*
*Researcher, Editor &*
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Hi Michael. My suggestion: It is a wiki thing, be bold, do what you think best. If you are fairly confident, put in a value, use an edit summary to indicate your confidence, discuss with others if you feel the need. We can revert or amend if we think your judgement is wrong, and discuss cases where there are differing opinions or doubt. I personally have absolutely no idea for most of the items, but might want someone to justify a given entry with some explanation, or even evidence, if it seems improbable from my limited experience. Actual values are more likely to generate discussion than a row of blanks. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: WikimediaZA [mailto:wikimediaza-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Graaf Sent: 20 April 2018 22:00 To: wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Community Capacity Map
Dear ZAnians,
Greetings from Berlin. Douglas, Mpho and Coenraad are also here but so far we've each been doing our own thing since there are several simultaneous tracks in the conference. Here, I'm reporting on something that only I attended, but which (I think) requires the attention of the chapter, namely the Community Capacity Map https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map#Community_Capacity_Map (CCM).
You'll see it's not a geographical map but a table which lists the capacities of affiliates.While the presenter was clear that there is no requirement that affiliates fill in all (or even any) of the categories, in his presentation of the purpose of the CCM it was obvious to me that we as a chapter stand to benefit - since the ever-growing staff of the Wikimedia Foundation will use the map as one of their tools in deciding where to allocate support.
You may also notice that I experimentally started a row for Wikimedia-ZA but I now feel I should consult the collective on the process for going forward. The template used takes some getting used to. Quite possibly in future the information will be displayed in a more intuitive way - perhaps even a real map. But I think we should submit it so long.
What do others think?
Hi all, further to my comments to Michael, please all watchlist the page so you can follow changes (and find the page again). Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Southwood [mailto:peter.southwood@telkomsa.net] Sent: 21 April 2018 08:20 To: 'wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org' Subject: RE: [Wikimedia ZA] Community Capacity Map
Hi Michael. My suggestion: It is a wiki thing, be bold, do what you think best. If you are fairly confident, put in a value, use an edit summary to indicate your confidence, discuss with others if you feel the need. We can revert or amend if we think your judgement is wrong, and discuss cases where there are differing opinions or doubt. I personally have absolutely no idea for most of the items, but might want someone to justify a given entry with some explanation, or even evidence, if it seems improbable from my limited experience. Actual values are more likely to generate discussion than a row of blanks. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: WikimediaZA [mailto:wikimediaza-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Graaf Sent: 20 April 2018 22:00 To: wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Community Capacity Map
Dear ZAnians,
Greetings from Berlin. Douglas, Mpho and Coenraad are also here but so far we've each been doing our own thing since there are several simultaneous tracks in the conference. Here, I'm reporting on something that only I attended, but which (I think) requires the attention of the chapter, namely the Community Capacity Map https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map#Community_Capacity_Map (CCM).
You'll see it's not a geographical map but a table which lists the capacities of affiliates.While the presenter was clear that there is no requirement that affiliates fill in all (or even any) of the categories, in his presentation of the purpose of the CCM it was obvious to me that we as a chapter stand to benefit - since the ever-growing staff of the Wikimedia Foundation will use the map as one of their tools in deciding where to allocate support.
You may also notice that I experimentally started a row for Wikimedia-ZA but I now feel I should consult the collective on the process for going forward. The template used takes some getting used to. Quite possibly in future the information will be displayed in a more intuitive way - perhaps even a real map. But I think we should submit it so long.
What do others think?
Hi Peter, I agree with Bobby and also feel it is important to get done. I have had a relatively detailed look at it so far and already given it some thought. I also agree with Peter that we should 'be bold" and fill it in/make corrections to it in the mean time. I plan to tackle it as well (in the near future but not right now) but like any good wiki it requires group input.
Regards,
Douglas.
On 21 April 2018 at 08:24, Peter Southwood peter.southwood@telkomsa.net wrote:
Hi all, further to my comments to Michael, please all watchlist the page so you can follow changes (and find the page again). Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Southwood [mailto:peter.southwood@telkomsa.net] Sent: 21 April 2018 08:20 To: 'wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org' Subject: RE: [Wikimedia ZA] Community Capacity Map
Hi Michael. My suggestion: It is a wiki thing, be bold, do what you think best. If you are fairly confident, put in a value, use an edit summary to indicate your confidence, discuss with others if you feel the need. We can revert or amend if we think your judgement is wrong, and discuss cases where there are differing opinions or doubt. I personally have absolutely no idea for most of the items, but might want someone to justify a given entry with some explanation, or even evidence, if it seems improbable from my limited experience. Actual values are more likely to generate discussion than a row of blanks. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: WikimediaZA [mailto:wikimediaza-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Graaf Sent: 20 April 2018 22:00 To: wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Community Capacity Map
Dear ZAnians,
Greetings from Berlin. Douglas, Mpho and Coenraad are also here but so far we've each been doing our own thing since there are several simultaneous tracks in the conference. Here, I'm reporting on something that only I attended, but which (I think) requires the attention of the chapter, namely the Community Capacity Map https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map# Community_Capacity_Map (CCM).
You'll see it's not a geographical map but a table which lists the capacities of affiliates.While the presenter was clear that there is no requirement that affiliates fill in all (or even any) of the categories, in his presentation of the purpose of the CCM it was obvious to me that we as a chapter stand to benefit - since the ever-growing staff of the Wikimedia Foundation will use the map as one of their tools in deciding where to allocate support.
You may also notice that I experimentally started a row for Wikimedia-ZA but I now feel I should consult the collective on the process for going forward. The template used takes some getting used to. Quite possibly in future the information will be displayed in a more intuitive way - perhaps even a real map. But I think we should submit it so long.
What do others think?
-- *Michael Graaf*
*Researcher, Editor &*
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Yes, Anyone who knows enough to have an opinion on any one of the items can make a suggestion. Anyone else can comment or question it. Ideally there will be enough people with enough knowledge to come up with a realistic result. I know that I would have no chance of getting it right myself, as I don’t know enough people, and don't know what most of the ones I have met can do. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: WikimediaZA [mailto:wikimediaza-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Douglas Scott Sent: 21 April 2018 15:26 To: wikimediaza Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] FW: Community Capacity Map
Hi Peter, I agree with Bobby and also feel it is important to get done. I have had a relatively detailed look at it so far and already given it some thought. I also agree with Peter that we should 'be bold" and fill it in/make corrections to it in the mean time. I plan to tackle it as well (in the near future but not right now) but like any good wiki it requires group input.
Regards,
Douglas.
On 21 April 2018 at 08:24, Peter Southwood peter.southwood@telkomsa.net wrote:
Hi all, further to my comments to Michael, please all watchlist the page so you can follow changes (and find the page again). Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Southwood [mailto:peter.southwood@telkomsa.net] Sent: 21 April 2018 08:20 To: 'wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org' Subject: RE: [Wikimedia ZA] Community Capacity Map
Hi Michael. My suggestion: It is a wiki thing, be bold, do what you think best. If you are fairly confident, put in a value, use an edit summary to indicate your confidence, discuss with others if you feel the need. We can revert or amend if we think your judgement is wrong, and discuss cases where there are differing opinions or doubt. I personally have absolutely no idea for most of the items, but might want someone to justify a given entry with some explanation, or even evidence, if it seems improbable from my limited experience. Actual values are more likely to generate discussion than a row of blanks. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: WikimediaZA [mailto:wikimediaza-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Graaf Sent: 20 April 2018 22:00 To: wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Community Capacity Map
Dear ZAnians,
Greetings from Berlin. Douglas, Mpho and Coenraad are also here but so far we've each been doing our own thing since there are several simultaneous tracks in the conference. Here, I'm reporting on something that only I attended, but which (I think) requires the attention of the chapter, namely the Community Capacity Map https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Capacity_Map# Community_Capacity_Map (CCM).
You'll see it's not a geographical map but a table which lists the capacities of affiliates.While the presenter was clear that there is no requirement that affiliates fill in all (or even any) of the categories, in his presentation of the purpose of the CCM it was obvious to me that we as a chapter stand to benefit - since the ever-growing staff of the Wikimedia Foundation will use the map as one of their tools in deciding where to allocate support.
You may also notice that I experimentally started a row for Wikimedia-ZA but I now feel I should consult the collective on the process for going forward. The template used takes some getting used to. Quite possibly in future the information will be displayed in a more intuitive way - perhaps even a real map. But I think we should submit it so long.
What do others think?
-- *Michael Graaf*
*Researcher, Editor &*
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