Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Copyright Act of 1978 amendment process: 27 August deadline

19 Sep 2015


      i like the letter a lot! many thanks!!
rupert
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Douglas Scott douglas.i.scott@gmail.com
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Hi Rupert,
Thanks for the suggestion!  I have just uploaded it to commons and can be
accessed at this link:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Copyright_Submissions_to_a...
Cheers,
Douglas.
On 19 September 2015 at 07:42, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com
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you have it somewhere on wiki?
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Denise Nicholson <
Denise.Nicholson@wits.ac.za> wrote:
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No, unfortunately it hasn't come through.   I also included something
about freedom of panarama in my comments.
Regards
Denise
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From: Douglas Scott [douglas.i.scott@gmail.com]
Sent: 16 September 2015 04:34 PM
To: Theresa Hume
Cc: wikimediaza; Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Copyright Act of 1978 amendment process: 27
August deadline
Hi Denise, I think that might be because of the content filtering
function
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of this mailing list that could have caused the document, although
attached, not to have been send along with the last email.  I will turn
it
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off for a few seconds and see if it comes through now as an attachment
to
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this email.
Cheers,
Douglas.
On 16 September 2015 at 16:22, Denise Nicholson <
Denise.Nicholson@wits.ac.za
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No attachment.  Please resend.
Thanks
Denise
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From: Douglas Scott [douglas.i.scott@gmail.com]
Sent: 16 September 2015 03:15 PM
To: Theresa Hume
Cc: wikimediaza; Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia ZA] Copyright Act of 1978 amendment process:
27
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August deadline
Hello everyone,
Today I have submitted our recommendation to the DTI on behalf of
Wikimedia
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ZA calling for Freedom of Panorama.  I have attached a copy of that
recommendation to this email.  It was decided to model our request on
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one suggested by the Joint Academic Comments on the South African
Copyright
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Amendment Bill with whom we were able to raise and explain our issue
with
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Section 15 and its impact on Freedom of Panorama.
Basically we are calling for it to "*be permissible to reproduce,
distribute and make available to the public works located permanently
in
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public roads and ways or public spaces. In the case of buildings,
this
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authorisation shall only extend to the façades and interior public
spaces
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thereof*."
We have also joined the call for Section 15 to be greatly simplified
and
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modernized as well as a broadening of fair use.
I want to especially thank Dr Tobias Schonwetter (Copyright expert at
UCT),
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Pria Chetty (who is also a Wikimedia ZA board member as well as a IT
Copyright lawyer) and Dimitar Parvanov (who is Advocating for Freedom
of
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Panorama in the European Union Parliament).
The actual drafting of the document was done by myself and I take
full
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responsibility for any issues or errors in it.
I want to thank you all for your participation in this.  It has been
quite
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a ride.  I will keep you all posted on any feedback I get from the
DTI
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moving forward.
Cheers,
Douglas.
On 21 August 2015 at 13:30, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott@gmail.com
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Hello everyone, apologies for the delay on this.  About two days
ago
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it
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was suggested to me that we setup an etherpad to discuss the issue
of
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what
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our suggestion should be to amend the South African Copy Right Act
of
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1978
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so as to allow for Freedom of Panorama.  I feel that now is a good
time
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to
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set this etherpad up so that anyone who is interested in
contributing
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to
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this issue can do so in a collaborative way whilst avoiding
spamming
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other
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people on this list (who might not be interested in this) with our
chatter.
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You can find the etherpad at the link here-
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/SA_Copy_Right_Act_amendment_bill_-sec_15_(3)
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Looking forward to your contributions.  Please remember that the
deadline
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for us to submit a suggestion on how to amend the bill is the 16th
September 2015 but I would like to get our submission in on the
15th.
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Cheers,
Douglas.
On 18 August 2015 at 09:54, ubuntupunk@gmail.com <
ubuntupunk@gmail.com
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http://medialternatives.com/2015/08/17/draft-copyright-bill-amendment-alarm/
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Douglas Scott <
douglas.i.scott@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
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> As many of you no doubt know the Copy Right Act 1978 section 15
(3)
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#South_Africa
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> has been a bone of some contention for the South Africa
Wikipedia
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community
> for a long time now as it has effectively meant that we here in
South
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> Africa are denied Freedom of Panorama
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama
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> Last week I was fortunate enough to have attended an event
organised
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by
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Dr
> Tobias Schonwetter from UCT (and from Creative Commons South
Africa)
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to
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> discuss a suggested redrafting of the act.  I am happy to say
that I
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feel I
> was able to make a good case to the relevant authorities from
the
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> Department of Trade and Industry as well as others present for
the
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need
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to
> revise the act to allow for Freedom of Panorama.  I feel they
were
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very
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> sympathetic to our concerns about the need and desirability of
Freedom
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of
> Panorama in South Africa.
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> Now comes the hard part.  We need to work on a suggested
revision
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of
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> Section 15 (3) (or Section 15 generally) to allow for Freedom of
Panorama
> and we need to do it quickly as the deadline for submissions to
change
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the
> act is the 27th of August 2015.
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> My suggestion is to use the Spanish or German Freedom of
Panorama
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acts
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as
> guidelines for us which basically state that people are free to
take
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> pictures or otherwise reproduce works that are permanently found
outside on
> public ways, streets or places (e.g. squares, plazas) and to
distribute
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and
> publicly communicate such copies.
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> Or as the Spanish act says: "Works permanently located in parks,
streets,
> squares or other public places may be freely reproduced,
distributed
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and
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> communicated by means of paintings, drawings, photographs and
audiovisual
> processes." and goes on to state that this  "may not be so
interpreted
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that
> they could be applied in a manner capable of unreasonably
prejudicing
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the
> legitimate interests of the author or adversely affecting the
normal
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> exploitation of the works to which they refer."
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> I want to notify the community of this opportunity for us to
amended
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the
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> act as well as the progress the Chapter (Wikimedia South Africa)
has
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made
> in possibly getting Freedom of Panorama established in South
Africa.
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> I also wanted to let you know that should you have any comments
of
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your
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own
> on the amendment of the Copy Right act of 1978 then please have
a
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look
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at
> the link here
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http://saha.org.za/news/2015/August/call_for_comment_copyright_amendment_bil...
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> for more information as well as the contact details of the
contact
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person
> at the DTI.
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> Thanks and best regards,
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> Douglas.
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