Dear All,
Greetings!
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Thanking you, Yours sincerely, -- Dr. Abhijeet Safai
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Dear Sudhanwa,
Greetings!
Thanks for your query. As it was shared with me, the elections were supposed to be conducted in 2016, hence only the name of the elections is 'elections 2016'. However, they are being conducted in 2017.
As the elections are being conducted in year 2017, the current voter list is applicable but the name of the elections is 'Elections 2016'.
The delay in the elections had various reasons including account related issues at banks as discussed with me.
Thanking you, Yours sincerely,
-- Dr. Abhijeet Safai
On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa.com@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am not sure how the voter list is prepared. If the elections are for 2016, i feel that eligibility should be as per that year and not current year.
Can elecom, EC give explanation on this.
Regards Sudhanwa
On Mar 29, 2017 12:57 PM, "Abhijeet Safai" abhijeet.safai@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Greetings!
Please find below the list of verified and approved candidates for the elections. Please feel free to call / mail for any query regarding this. As I am new to this process itself, I might not know all the answers to the questions, but I shall try my best to get the information and share. Also kindly let us know if any modification is needed.
We would like to wish best of luck to all the candidates! Draft slate of candidates
Election Committee deliberated the nominations and clarified the information on the nomination forms with the Chapter. More details here http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections_2016#Verification_and_Approval_of_candidates
- Dr Subas Chandra Rout
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Dr_Subhas_Chandra_Rout
- Harish Satpute
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Harish_Satpute
- Harvinder Chandigarh
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Harvinder_Chandigarh
- Krishna Chaitanya Velaga
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Krishna_Chaitanya_Velaga
- Mourya Biswas
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Mourya_Biswas
- Rahul Deshmukh
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Rahul_Deshmukh
- Sanket Oswal
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Sanket_Oswal
- Santosh Shingare
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Santosh_Shringare
- Srikar Kashyap Pulipaka
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Srikar_Kashyap_Pulipaka
- Subham Soni
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Shubham_Soni
- Suyash Dwivedi
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Suyash_Dwivedi
- Viswanathan Prabhakaran
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Viswanathan_Prabhakaran
- Yohann Thomas
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Yohann_Thomas
- Priyanka Tiwari
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/PriyankaTiwari
- Nikhil Kawale
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Nikhil_Kawale
- Raju Jangid
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Raju_Jangid
- Kiran Ravikumar
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Kiran_Ravikumar
- Jnanaranjan Sahu
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Gyanaranjan_Sahu
- Dr Ataullah Khan Kak Cenjary
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Dr_Ataullah_Khan_Kak_Cenjary
- Ranjith Sanjeev
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Ranjith_Sanjeev
- Sayli Salvi
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Elections_2016/Nominations/Sayli_Salvi
Last date for withdrawal of candidature is 1st April 2017, 2359 hrs IST. Any candidate withdrawing candidature may express the same on Talk:Elections_2016#Nominations http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Talk:Elections_2016#Nominations and wikisign before due date.
Thanking you, Yours sincerely, -- Dr. Abhijeet Safai
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Dear Sudhanwa,
Greetings!
From the WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf
B. Voter’s List:
- The electorate shall consist of the members of the Society i.e.
i. Individual Members ii. Institutional Members 2. Provided:- *a. Members who are on the rolls of the Chapter three months prior to the AGM/Election day shall* *form the eligible voters list.* 3. Copy of Final Voters’ List shall be available at Registered office of the Society at least twenty one days ahead of the Election Day and in the Election premises (if some other Venue is selected as for conduct of Ballot) on the day of voting for inspection of Voters 4. Right to cast the vote shall be with the members only and is not transferable. For Institutional members/voters, the person duly authorized can vote in person.
-ViswaPrabha (Viswanathan Prabhakaran)
Dear Vishwa,
From whatever you have mentioned, my name should also be there. (Especially
considering that shantanu Mahajan's name is included . We send our money, docs together).
Many more questions arise further. How elections can happen for previous year with this year's voters? At least the voters should be for the same year of voting. If the current EC members tenure is over, who and how elections are being held by them? That too for previous year. What will be the tenure of elected people of this 2016 elections? Till 2018 or till 2019?
I don't know if current EC has taken any advice on these matters. They have not updated members about any regularity matters or financial matters during there tenure. Whatever little bit people know is from the IRC logs and that is not a good picture.
Hope the current EC replies to these queries.
Regards Sudhanwa
On Apr 13, 2017 12:23 AM, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" viswaprabha@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sudhanwa,
Greetings!
From the WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf
B. Voter’s List:
- The electorate shall consist of the members of the Society i.e.
i. Individual Members ii. Institutional Members 2. Provided:- *a. Members who are on the rolls of the Chapter three months prior to the AGM/Election day shall* *form the eligible voters list.* 3. Copy of Final Voters’ List shall be available at Registered office of the Society at least twenty one days ahead of the Election Day and in the Election premises (if some other Venue is selected as for conduct of Ballot) on the day of voting for inspection of Voters 4. Right to cast the vote shall be with the members only and is not transferable. For Institutional members/voters, the person duly authorized can vote in person.
-ViswaPrabha (Viswanathan Prabhakaran)
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Dear Sudhanwa,
All along its life, we have had enough introspection and biopsy to make sure that this Chapter is NOT getting up on its heels any time sooner. Time and again, we have had umpteen number of doubts most of which only end up wasting much of the precious time that could have been used for some productive positive efforts for the betterment of this organization.
As you very well know, the chapter is still not at its best of health. The few people who are still attending it on its ICU bed have been trying to keep its dignity by sparing their own time (and sometimes money too). The ones who are still not worn out completely are available to take all kinds of blames which should have been originally born by all of us collectively. And still, lots among us are available to stand across and to make sure that they too will wear out soon.
As of now, I am not any office bearer or EC member. I am also not advocating on behalf of anyone who may be one. But I think, this is the chance for us all to come forward, fix it up and get going. It really does not matter who takes the lead, but from the chapter's point of view, somebody, anybody must kick some worthy and healthy life into it.
So, please have some mercy. Let us not confuse simple minds of the less active members and onlookers by introducing rather insignificant or irresponsible questions.
Now, for your fresh doubts, let me try to answer them, from the way I remember the rules and in the capacity of a former EC member (during the time when you were a chapter member and also the president of the chapter),
0. About your own membership validity and period, someone from the EC must / may reply. I have no clue about the membership records.
For other general points,
1. Elections are held as per the conditions set in the MoA and the rule books. Last year's election was due by September 30,2016. However, the Chapter can extend this by special permission from the concerned Govt.official upto another 12 months or so (I am not sure exactly how many), if the necessary conditions of preparation for AGM/election could not be met due to any reasons.As I understand, in our case, the financial reports took more time due to technical reasons and thus we have secured such permissions.
2. Once the AGM/election date is fixed, the definition for vote eligibility to vote is clearly mentioned: They should be valid members on the day three months prior to the date of elections. I believe, the members enlisted on the vote list belong to this category.
3. The AGMs/ elections are necessarily to be conducted on a per year basis. If an year is missing, the immediately subsequent AGM/election will be counted as attributing to that year. Thus, the elections we conduct now are for year 2016. If everything goes well, we should have one more AGM that is pertaining to past 2006 April -2007 March, by the September of this year. However, unless there are new vacancies, the upcoming EC members shall continue along as their tenure is fixed as two years from the date of taking charge( i.e. the day of the first meeeting of EC following the General body meeting, typically in 2-4 weeks of General body meeting).
4. Since there has not been a handing over to a new EC, the present board still hold its tenure. So, their authority to decide, arrange and conduct an election and AGM continues to be valid.
Thanks and regards,
-Viswaprabha
Note: I am only trying to help clear any confusions and help others to understand the more intricate details, as a normal chapter member and as per the knowledge and exposure as a former EC. Please note that it is not obligatory for me to be answerable to all questions you arise on behalf of the current board.
P.S.: (Please refer to the MoA and WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf as linked below for the above clauses).
a. http://wiki.wikimedia.in/index.php?title=Memorandum_of_ Association&%2FMoA= b. http://wiki.wikimedia.in/File:WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf
On 13 April 2017 at 12:20, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa.com@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Vishwa,
From whatever you have mentioned, my name should also be there. (Especially considering that shantanu Mahajan's name is included . We send our money, docs together).
Many more questions arise further. How elections can happen for previous year with this year's voters? At least the voters should be for the same year of voting. If the current EC members tenure is over, who and how elections are being held by them? That too for previous year. What will be the tenure of elected people of this 2016 elections? Till 2018 or till 2019?
I don't know if current EC has taken any advice on these matters. They have not updated members about any regularity matters or financial matters during there tenure. Whatever little bit people know is from the IRC logs and that is not a good picture.
Hope the current EC replies to these queries.
Regards Sudhanwa
On Apr 13, 2017 12:23 AM, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" viswaprabha@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sudhanwa,
Greetings!
From the WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf
B. Voter’s List:
- The electorate shall consist of the members of the Society i.e.
i. Individual Members ii. Institutional Members 2. Provided:- *a. Members who are on the rolls of the Chapter three months prior to the AGM/Election day shall* *form the eligible voters list.* 3. Copy of Final Voters’ List shall be available at Registered office of the Society at least twenty one days ahead of the Election Day and in the Election premises (if some other Venue is selected as for conduct of Ballot) on the day of voting for inspection of Voters 4. Right to cast the vote shall be with the members only and is not transferable. For Institutional members/voters, the person duly authorized can vote in person.
-ViswaPrabha (Viswanathan Prabhakaran)
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Dear Sudhanwaji
For the convenience of the other subscribers of the mailing list, I will reply on your membership question in this email & your other list of questions in the next email.
As part of regular reminder emails for renewal, we had sent an email in June 2016 for renewing your membership.
- I had received an email from you on 2nd July 2016, that you have sent the money via Mr Shantanu Mahajan. You had also said that you had sent the soft copy also. - For this email, I have sent a reply on 4th July stating that we have not received your digital membership form. I had requested you to send the form again ,so that we could update it. But there was no reply - On the other hand, Shantanu Mahajan sent his membership form via email on 22nd May 2016, for which his membership stands renewed
So, till date we have not received your membership form via email, hence your membership was not renewed.
Regarding the membership fees which you gave, since you did not send me your membership form & your membership was not renewed, we have considered it as a donation. If you want we can send a donation receipt in your name.
In case you want to become member of WMIN for 2017-18, request you to please send me your membership form again with your bank transaction
Regards, Yohann Thomas Wikimedia India
Yohann Thomas yohannvt@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <sudhanwa.com@gmail.com
wrote:
Dear Vishwa,
From whatever you have mentioned, my name should also be there. (Especially considering that shantanu Mahajan's name is included . We send our money, docs together).
Many more questions arise further. How elections can happen for previous year with this year's voters? At least the voters should be for the same year of voting. If the current EC members tenure is over, who and how elections are being held by them? That too for previous year. What will be the tenure of elected people of this 2016 elections? Till 2018 or till 2019?
I don't know if current EC has taken any advice on these matters. They have not updated members about any regularity matters or financial matters during there tenure. Whatever little bit people know is from the IRC logs and that is not a good picture.
Hope the current EC replies to these queries.
Regards Sudhanwa
On Apr 13, 2017 12:23 AM, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" viswaprabha@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sudhanwa,
Greetings!
From the WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf
B. Voter’s List:
- The electorate shall consist of the members of the Society i.e.
i. Individual Members ii. Institutional Members 2. Provided:- *a. Members who are on the rolls of the Chapter three months prior to the AGM/Election day shall* *form the eligible voters list.* 3. Copy of Final Voters’ List shall be available at Registered office of the Society at least twenty one days ahead of the Election Day and in the Election premises (if some other Venue is selected as for conduct of Ballot) on the day of voting for inspection of Voters 4. Right to cast the vote shall be with the members only and is not transferable. For Institutional members/voters, the person duly authorized can vote in person.
-ViswaPrabha (Viswanathan Prabhakaran)
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Dear Sudhanwaji
This email is regarding your queries on Elections & members.
I suggest that you read the 19th March IRC again which I had posted on the mailing list.. https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2017-March/012901.htm...
To explain a little bit more, these elections are Elections 2016, because last year we couldn't do the elections. This was so because our accounts were frozen since 2016 February & due to our FCRA issues, we were unable to pay our auditor. So technically this will be 2016 AGM where we will present our activity reports from 2015-16, even though it is 2017.
About the voters in this elections, our membership tenure is from April-March. So the members whose voters list are there in this list are members from 2016-17. * "Voters eligible are those who are members as on 3 months before 23-April-2017 i.e. 23-Jan-2017." * So technically 2016-17 voters are voting for these elections,who would have been the same voters had we conducted elections in Oct/Nov 2016.
If we term these elections as 2017 elections, it might have repercussions' will try to list them out..
- While filing our ROS (Registrar of Societies), a point will be picked up by Karnataka government that where are the 2016 AGM & Elections documents. This might endanger our FCRA application. - When the new EC is elected & in case any of the EC members resign , there will another AGM in October 2017 with which the new EC will have to conduct elections also. If we name that also as Elections 2017, there will be confusion..
About the tenure of the new EC members, their term will expire in October/November 2018.
Regarding our activity & reports , we ae regularly updating them in our WMIN reports page. We need to update on the 1st quarter of 2017, which I will update after the elections http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Reports
Hope that helps to clear some of your queries
Regards, Yohann Thomas Wikimedia India
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar <sudhanwa.com@gmail.com
wrote:
Dear Vishwa,
From whatever you have mentioned, my name should also be there. (Especially considering that shantanu Mahajan's name is included . We send our money, docs together).
Many more questions arise further. How elections can happen for previous year with this year's voters? At least the voters should be for the same year of voting. If the current EC members tenure is over, who and how elections are being held by them? That too for previous year. What will be the tenure of elected people of this 2016 elections? Till 2018 or till 2019?
I don't know if current EC has taken any advice on these matters. They have not updated members about any regularity matters or financial matters during there tenure. Whatever little bit people know is from the IRC logs and that is not a good picture.
Hope the current EC replies to these queries.
Regards Sudhanwa
On Apr 13, 2017 12:23 AM, "ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ)" viswaprabha@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sudhanwa,
Greetings!
From the WMINElectionAndAppointmentRules.pdf
B. Voter’s List:
- The electorate shall consist of the members of the Society i.e.
i. Individual Members ii. Institutional Members 2. Provided:- *a. Members who are on the rolls of the Chapter three months prior to the AGM/Election day shall* *form the eligible voters list.* 3. Copy of Final Voters’ List shall be available at Registered office of the Society at least twenty one days ahead of the Election Day and in the Election premises (if some other Venue is selected as for conduct of Ballot) on the day of voting for inspection of Voters 4. Right to cast the vote shall be with the members only and is not transferable. For Institutional members/voters, the person duly authorized can vote in person.
-ViswaPrabha (Viswanathan Prabhakaran)
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