Hello All,
Tamil Wiki Community is currently organizing a 3 month long media
contest[1][2] with the aim of increasing media files related to Tamil /
Tamilians / Tamil culture to be used in Tamil Wiki Projects and
encouraging non-text contributions from users who could contribute easily
through pictures, sounds, videos. Total prize money of 850 USD is up for
grabs. As such within a week of starting the contest, we have got over 350
images from participants in India and Srilanka. Apart from images which can
be used on Wikipedia pages, pronunciation files are also being uploaded to
be used in Wiktionary. Arrangements are on to get it widely publicized on
print / radio / television media across places with Tamil population.
Facebook[3] is also helping a lot in getting traction. Spread out the word,
also do participate!
[1] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest/en
[2] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest
[3] http://www.facebook.com/tawmc
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Regards
Srikanth.L
On 11/30/2011 01:48 AM, wikimediaindia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:00:00 +0530
> From: Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia's participation in Google
> Summer of Code
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> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 01:53, Sumana Harihareswara
> <sumanah(a)wikimedia.org>wrote:
>
>> > I managed MediaWiki's participation in Google Summer of Code this year,
>> > and could talk with anyone interested in participating, anyone
>> > researching it, and anyone who is curious. :-) We try to document our
>> > participation on mediawiki.org wiki pages.
>> >
> Thanks Sumana for posting the summary voluntarily, was good to read them.
Glad I could help!
> At the risk of sounding foolish comparing content creation and software
> development, I have few questions. Feel free to ignore them if they are
> foolish ones :)
Yes, it is a very big difference, comparing content creation and
software development. It might be more useful to try to look at other
*writing* projects or other similar projects for comparison, such as
essay contests and Wiki Loves Monuments.
Also, GSoC is a FULL-TIME project for participants; they work 40
hours/week for three months. So you might want to consider Google
Code-In as another model to compare
http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/10/google-code-in-are-you-in.html
. Code-In asks for code, documentation, and other contributions in the
form of smaller tasks. Similarly OpenHatch http://openhatch.org/blog/
has the goal of bringing new people into open source with bite-size
tutorials and tasks.
You've asked some huge questions. I shall answer them as well as I can.
> 1. Do students come up with own project proposals / take up community's
> ideas and work on them. Whats the level of motivation / ownership between
> the two. I am asking this just to compare GEP's model of asking students to
> write on designated topics and if it has an impact on motivation.
The answer is "both".
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch007_finding-the-right-project/
and
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch008_writing-a-proposal/
give more details. Basically, open source communities have basic ideas
that they offer the students. Students applying for GSoC have to choose
among 175 open source projects, which vary in population, codebase size,
language, platform, etc., etc., and create proposals for the tasks
they'll spend 3 months working on. The students, in applying to work
with any project, have to write proposals detailing what they will do
and how. The timeline from 2011:
http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/ti…
You probably also want to read
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/defining-a-project/ . The
mentors who have written that manual have a lot of experience regarding
encouraging students.
Different projects have different processes for soliciting proposals and
managing proposal submissions.
> 2. What factors do you think make students to continue contributing to the
> opensource community?
This is a big and open question and many people are trying to figure it
out. Some thoughts on this from the GSoC mentors' manual:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/building-a-lifetime-contributor/
There are many factors; some of them are probably very long-term, and
some of them are easier to affect. Experts Leslie Hawthorn and Mel Chua
think we have to work in terms of engineering education -- Hawthorn is
working on ensuring that kids around the ages of 11-14 know that they
have the power to tinker with software, and Chua has done a lot of work
on bringing open source work into the undergraduate computer science
curriculum via http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE .
I think it helps if a student has free time to contribute to open source
even during the academic year. So, having to earn money via part-time
jobs, or having family responsibilities (cooking, cleaning, caretaking,
etc.), or having parents who don't understand and scorn this hobby ("you
should be studying instead!" "why are you working for free?") decreases
the likelihood of continued contribution.
It helps a lot, I think, if students make personal connections, feel
that their work is valued, can see that their work makes a difference,
and can see a career path that open source contribution helps with.
These are factors that Google Summer of Code and similar programs can
help with.
This is not a comprehensive list. There are people writing
dissertations about this topic! :)
> 3. How crucial is the role of mentors in it. Who are the mentors
> usually(WMF staff / community members?), how do they join as mentors?. I am
> asking this particularly since I see mentors' involvement among reasons for
> failure.
I hesitate to get in the middle of an argument about another project,
especially one I was not involved in and do not know very well. So
please do not take what I say as implying anything about any other programs.
Please read
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/what-makes-a-good-mentor/ and
other parts of that instruction guide that give best practices for
mentoring students in GSoC.
Just to be clear: the Google Summer of Code project for MediaWiki aims
to work on MediaWiki *as a whole* and is not restricted to projects that
directly benefit the Wikimedia project or the Wikimedia Foundation.
Mentors are very important. For MediaWiki's GSoC project, some are
Wikimedia Foundation staff and some are not. You can see that here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2011
Mentors need to be people who know the part of the codebase that the
student will be working on, who are eager to help the student achieve
their goal, and who are kind and diligent.
Sometimes the project's GSoC administrator (in this case, me) recruits
mentors, and sometimes the mentors initiate the conversation to
volunteer. Some people volunteer but are not suitable and thus the
project's GSoC administrator must reject them.
Different projects have different criteria for choosing their mentors
and have different processes for orienting and starting them.
> You need not restrict to mediawiki as org, can you share your experiences
> from opensource world too.
Thank you. I'm glad I could help a little bit, but when it comes to
encouraging specifically *student* participation, I know MediaWiki best.
You are asking questions about GSoC in general that you might want to
ask Carol Smith, who runs the Google Summer of Code program and Google
Code-In, and who has access to lots of lessons learned. She is at
<carols(a)google.com>. Other resources for you to check out:
The GNOME Outreach Program for Women:
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeWomen/OutreachProgram2011
Open Source at Oregon State University: http://osuosl.org/students
Mel Chua on how to teach open source skills in college:
http://opensource.com/education/11/4/diving-open-source-communities-student…
> -- Regards Srikanth.L
best,
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Volunteer Development Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation
Dear All,
Today I am sharing you the summary of discussions I had with Odia wiki (
http://or.wikipedia.org/) community. It is available here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/Indic_…
Odia is a shining example of how a wiki project can be revived and build a
community around it, if few wonderful users with a vision for building free
knowledge in their mother language arrive in their mother language wiki.
Odia wikipedia was started in 2002. In fact it is one of the first Indic
language wikipedia. Nothing much had happened in Odia wiki till 2010
December. But the progress made by Odia wiki project (
http://or.wikipedia.org/) during the past one year is note worthy and it is
an example that can be replicated in some of the inactive Indic language
wikipedias. Odia was having just 600 articles (which were created over the
past 8 years) and no active users at the start of this year. Now 10 months
later, it has close to 1600 articles and 10 active users. The online and
offline outreach initiatives took by Odia wiki community for building the
community is showing positive result.
I was actively involved in the community building for Odia wikipedia. I
still remember the day (2011 January 15) when I introducted Odia wikipedia
and Odia tying tool (developed by Junaid) to an Odia speaker (Ashuthosh
Kar) during Wiki X celebration at Bangalore. Through him very soon we got a
wonderful wikipedian (Subhashish) who is leading the efforts for Odia wiki
now. Initially Subhasish and I used to meet at my home and work on the
basic things for Odia wiki. I remember us working on the Odia wikipedia
logo, FAQ booklet, Translate wiki, and so on. Soon Odia got more members to
the team through the few Odia wiki workshops happened at Bangalore. Along
with workshops, Odia wikipedians translated the FAQ booklet to Odia and
took efforts to integrate the Odia typing solution to Odia wikipedia. Later
with the support of Dhanada Mishra (the chairman of Human Development
Foundation (http://www.hdf.org.in/)) and a young student Odia wikipedian
Srikanth Kedia a wiki workshop is conducted at Bhubaneshwar. Odia
wikipedians from Bangalore are doing an excellent job and now many of them
are participating in Wikimedia India chapter activities also.
Odia wiki community is effectively making use of various social networking
sites to reach out to Odia speakers.
Odia wiki project picked up not because Odia has got huge speaker base,
high literacy among Odia speakers, access to computers, or any thing else;
it become active only because it has receieved the right volunteers who
have passion and vision of developing a wikipedia in their mother language.
We need similar volunteers for each Indic language wikipedia.
Requesting you to place your comments on the talk
page<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs/I…>
.
Regards
Shiju
This is a letter to all Indian editors of the English Wikipedia requesting
discussion, cooperation and help.
Recently I was asked to give a three to four minute presentation on the
state of WikiProject India on English Wikipedia for the session on state of
Indic Wikipedias at the recently concluded WikiConference in Mumbai. At
first I thought nothing about the matter, but as I was compiling the
report, I came across statistics which would horrify any of us.
To begin with, as of time of writing this post, WikiProject India has a
total of 90,021 articles. This is a very large number and second only to
Hindi Wikipedia's 100,588 articles. Since all these English articles cover
only India or some aspect of its geography, history, culture or its people,
this set of 90,000+ articles is important to all Indians, representing the
largest core of knowledge about India on any Wikipedia project.
But all of this is not high quality stuff. User:Svick on English Wikipedia
provides a useful service to WikProjects on English Wikipedia. He provides
a WikiProject-wise listing of articles which have improvement tags such as
{{unreferenced}}, {{cleanup}}, {{copyedit}} and so on. In his report for
WikiProject India, at the following url:
http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListingByCat.php?project…
you will find that of the 79435 articles in this project which were
assessed by Svick, a total of 52077 articles or 65.6 % are marked for
cleanup, with 86271 issues in total. These are tagged with 82 different
types of tags, the most populous being :
* Articles with unsourced statements (6815)
* Articles lacking reliable references (1989)
* Articles needing additional references (4840)
* Articles lacking sources (8970)
* BLP articles lacking sources (1297)
* Articles needing cleanup (2751)
* Articles containing potentially dated statements (9317)
* All articles needing coordinates (14571)
* Articles to be expanded (1020)
Besides this, there are 40,338 articles unassessed for importance and
20,527 for quality, making a backlog of 60,865 assessments.
In addition, of the 90,000+ articles, there are 43,843 stubs and 10,986
start class articles. All these need to be developed in time also.
Besides these are a very large number of cryptic articles, articles
pertaining to India but not tagged on the talk page with the WikiProject
banner. The articles themselves sometimes need more cleanup tags than are
marked at present.
You may have read Sven Manguard's special opinion editorial in the Signpost
some time ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-10-31/Opinio…
wherein he has drawn attention to the hundreds of thousands of articles
needing cleanup and improvement on Wikipedia as a whole. That is exactly
the issue with WikiProject India, as of now.
To me it appears that - Something needs to be done URGENTLY.
My own suggestion is that this can easily be tackled if all of us do a
little bit every day. Many hands make light work. There are about 450
active editors listed on the WikiProject members page. If each of us
decided to do just one cleanup task each day, then we can do away with
1,64,500 odd problems in a year. Over time, these issues will fall to
negligible levels.
Please reply to this thread with your views. Firstly, do you agree with me.
Is there a problem or am I sensationalising the case? What exactly are the
issues and how do we resolve them. Can we as Indians rise to the challenge
and bring down these backlogs to manageable levels. Please give us any
ideas, inputs, insights or critiques that may occur to you.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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hi,
The recent release of the film Dam 999 made me want to read up on the Mullaperiyar Dam in Kerala around which this film is shot and there are contrarian claims as to whether the film is about this dam or not. However, the article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mullaperiyar_Dam - seems to have become a venue for both sides of the controversy to raise their points.
I have created a section on the talk page aimed at improving the article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mullaperiyar_Dam#Improving_Mullaperiyar_D…. Request help from English language Wikipedians to improve this article.
Thanks in advance,
warm regards,
Pradeep Mohandas
User:Prad2609
Hoi,
I have been privileged to have been at the Wikiconference India, the Mumbai
hackathon and the Pune translation sprint. For me personally it was great
to see the activity in the many communities. I have learned a lot and I am
sure there is much more for me to learn.
The one thing I have come to understand is that many native speakers of
Indic languages are effectively illiterate in their own language. The
combination of highly educated people being functionally illiterate had me
talking with many people. Given the structure of the Indic scripts, it is
possible for me to learn to read the text; it will get me as far as
pronouncing something I do not know the meaning of. For native speakers it
must be not that hard at all when they surmounted the challenge of learning
to read and write English already.
I wrote on the Wikimedia blog some of the points I came up with. What I
would like from you is your comment.
Thanks,
Gerard
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/11/28/7983/
While wikimediaindia-l is the main mailing list of Wikimedia Community in
India, a larger discussion of English Wikipedia/ns in India or WikiProject
India on en.wiki is out of scope on wikimediaindia-l and its subscribers.
While most of the Indian language Wikipedia have their separate mailing
lists, co-ordination & collaboration among the Indian
Wikimedians contributing to English Wikipedia has become the most
difficult. English Wikipedia mailing list "wikien-l" is too boarder scope
of discussing them.
I am aware that we have "too many lists", but it is expected as the
community grows in size and creation of separate lists is justified as long
as we have enough activity on/around it. I am of the opinion that
India-related content and community of Indian Wikipedians on English
Wikipedia is as equally important to grow as Indic language Wikipedias.
In this context, I would propose the creation of a "wikimedia-in-eng" or
"wikiproject-india-en" mailing list.
Regards
Tinu Cherian
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.baindur(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Agreed in principle with Pradeep, but let some talk of content take place
> here. I'm sure the majority of wikimedia-l readers do not have WT:IN on
> their watchlist.
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
> parakara.ghoda(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Pradeep Mohandas <
>> pradeep.mohandas(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the list should be used more as a helpful pointer and as much
>>> discussion as possible should be done on Wikipedia itself. I think there
>>> are more lists than Wikipedians can handle and more time is spent on the
>>> lists than on editing Wikipedia, which is what we're primarily here for.
>>>
>>
>> +1.
>>
>>>
>>> warm regards,
>>> Pradeep
>>>
>>> User:Prad2609
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:14:00 +0530
>>> From: parakara.ghoda(a)gmail.com
>>> To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [[Brian Horrocks]] not an Indian FA
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree more with Swaroop, but since the English wikipedia is picking
>>> itself up and dusting itself again, we may want one.
>>> --Re,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Swaroop Rao <raul.swaroop(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> Good idea, but then, shouldn't we be using WT:IN<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk%3aIN>for these? :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Swaroop Rao
>>> (MikeLynch <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%3aMikeLynch>)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 21:47, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> I think what Srikanth meant is, creating a separate mailing list for
>>> English wikipedians from India to discuss their topics of interest. I too
>>> think that is a good idea.
>>>
>>> Shiju
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>> ashwin.baindur(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is that what you mean, Srikanth?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Recognized_content
>>>
>>> I was also not aware till Pranav dhowed me the link today.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>> parakara.ghoda(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ashwin,
>>> I think the Indian English community needs a list of it's own.
>>> Re,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Ashwin Baindur <
>>> ashwin.baindur(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I found TinuCherianBot had mistakenly made Brian Horrocks, a British
>>> Army general unconnected with India except for his birth, as part of
>>> WikiProject India, a false positive. Sorry guys, he has nothing to do with
>>> us. We are now down another FA.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Ashwin Baindur
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
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>>> --
>>> Regards,
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>>> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
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>> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
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I found TinuCherianBot had mistakenly made Brian Horrocks, a British Army
general unconnected with India except for his birth, as part of WikiProject
India, a false positive. Sorry guys, he has nothing to do with us. We are
now down another FA.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
------------------------------------------------------
Hi folks,
Sue forwarded me this thread.
The best way to get people like that taken care of is through the email
response team - there's a group of really wonderful volunteers who would
love to help out in cases like that.
You can have the person write to info-en-q(a)wikimedia.org (that's info,
english, quality) and the email response team will take it from there.
If there's one that's particularly bad, you might want to send it my way
and I'll try to find just the right volunteer for them, but on the whole,
the email response team is AMAZING.
info-en-q(a)wikimedia.org.
:)
pb
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Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] People of stature unhappy with own articles
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From: ** <wheredevelsdare(a)hotmail.com>
Date: 27 November 2011 22:00
To: Wikipedia India Mailing List <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Hiya,
Me and a couple of others have been contacted by a couple of people of
stature having Wikipedia articles about themselves recently about the
articles having derogatory and inaccurate information about them. Is there
any procedure set which such people can follow to have an admin look into
their page?
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From: *Bala Jeyaraman* <sodabottle(a)gmail.com>
Date: 27 November 2011 22:03
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Yes there is. direct them to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTOPROB#Problems_in_an_article_abou…
But they shouldn't be expecting wikipedia to do a whitewashing / PR fluff
job on it. Sometimes, if they are actually trying to remove negative
material about them (and there is a ton of it in RS) it leads to a
backlash and more gets added to the article. (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striesand_effect)
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From: *Srikanth Ramakrishnan* <parakara.ghoda(a)gmail.com>
Date: 28 November 2011 01:28
To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
WhereDevilsDare,
As Bala pointed out, pages have to be neutral.
Example:Look at any Politician's page, it's always Pro-them, rarely is it
balanced.
We need to have things neutral.
If these guys get to decide what goes on their page, it'll be a Conflict of
Interest.
Even a simple controversy against a person, if added, shouldn't be removed.
Regards,
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Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
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From: ** <wheredevelsdare(a)hotmail.com>
Date: 28 November 2011 01:42
To: Wikipedia India Mailing List <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
The issues were of information added without RS, biased information and
language that was encyclopedic. The issue was sorted but I thought there
may be a formal process - thanks to Soda Bottle for providing the link.
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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:58:10 +0530
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From: *Vickram Crishna* <vvcrishna(a)radiophony.com>
Date: 28 November 2011 02:15
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+1
This is true, but it does not mean that unproven allegations form part of
acceptable content, I think. If a person is accused, for instance, in
court, that charge may be mentioned, but not giving the impression the
charge is proven. Citations will be very important in such situations.
Since only a handful of courts in India have gone online, it may be
difficult to assert charges filed in some courts.
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Vickram
Fool On The Hill <http://communicall.wordpress.com>
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From: *Bishakha Datta* <bishakhadatta(a)gmail.com>
Date: 28 November 2011 07:27
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Totally agree with you, Bala.
I've been cc-d on a couple of these emails and unfortunately, people who
are famous in their fields, do seem to feel they are above examination. The
attitude that sometimes comes across is this: "How dare anyone write
negatively about me!" (Regardless of the facts of the situ).
So if we whitewash negative information in these situations, knowledge and
neutrality are the first casualties.
Best
Bishakha
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