Today we have released first version of FAQ
for Hindi Wikipedia
a nice effort of malayalam wiki community they translated their FAQ from
malayalam to english.That translation helped us a lot for preparing FAQ for
Hindi Wikipedia.Special thanks to Shiju Alex and Junad pv who gave this FAQ
its Final pdf form.
Thank you and Regards
Article selection for Wikipedia for Schools (Offline Ed) - Indian
version has begun. I have started selecting articles. I chose
Geography as a relatively uncontroversial topic to begin with. The
first items added were the states & union territories -
uncontroversial, just added them all. The next I have selected are
Any that you feel should be removed/added? Your thoughts on this issue?
[[User:AshLin|AshLin]] ([[User talk:AshLin|talk]]) 18:38, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Happy to announce that Short URLs are now available in every page of Tamil
Wikipedia. Sharing Indic URLs with unicode characters are never fun since
one will get an ugly looking URL like
(Forget about twitter, even mails are tough).Now its easier
http://tawp.in/r/262 !! The short url is visible on top right of every page,
extreme right of the article title. For the technically inclined, the
shortening happens by encoding the page id of a mediawiki page to base36 (No
database for shorturls here!) and hence doesnt depend on any other server.
I would like to thank User:Mountain for the shortify project which
powers this. (Gerard, this is already localized in tamil,malayalam :) ). It
would be great if this could be "extensionized" in mediawiki as its a
feature must for wiki's running in non latin languages.I would also like to
thank YuviPanda for setting this up on his server and doing some
customization for Tamil wiki. (YuviPanda is an ubergeek looking to do some
serious work for mediawiki in GSoC), Kishore for some quick css help in
making this happen.
It would be great if this can be supported by Wikimedia itself. Even if the
fancy twitter friendly short domain name is not there,if just the
redirection part is hosted for all projects on wikimedia servers(existing
domain names will do), it will be of great use, especially for non latin
I understand Malayalam wikipedia has a redirect mechanism based on the
english interwiki title for sometime now.Even we would want to do this, but
am thinking if redirects are an optimal, search engine friendly solution or
are there better ways of doing it.Can someone please educate me. Also IMHO
URLs with transliterated text will help Indic languages. But making them
search friendly is a key thing and if we could do this, am sure the
readership would bound to increase a few times.(Not everyone knows to type
in regional language and many use transliterated text for search and then
consume vernacular content). Wikipedia is missing them!
Hindi wikipedia has reached 1 million (10 lakh) page edits some time in the
past week, becoming the second indic language to reach that mile stone
(malayalam made it first on January 22)
Congratulations to all Hindi wikipedians
This is Subhashish from Odia (Oriya) Wikipedia.
It is my pleasure to inform you all about the 2nd Odia (Oriya) Wikipedia
going to be organized in Bhubaneswar on 2011April03 at 10 AM, Bharatiya
Vidya Bhavan. This is the first of its kind of workshop in the home state
Odisha. The first workshop was conducted by Malayalam Wikipedian Shiju A in
-* Introduction about Wikipedia and Wikipedia Odia
- Recent developments and new features added in Wikipedia
- Why Wikipedia Odia?
- Future deveopment and possible opportunities with Wikipedia
-* Discussion of common problems raised (And by audience)
- Display and typing issues and solution
- Building community
- Translation issues & possible measures to solve them
- Incubation of new projects for students in Odia Wikipedia
- Future Projects for Odia Wikipedia
Anyone from any other language Wikipedias are most welcome to this event to
share their thoughts and ideas for the development of Odia Wikipedia. This
is an open event and free for all. Anyone who has some ideas to share can
also share them here or
Thanks & Regards
ସୁଭ ପା/ Subhashish Panigrahi
Wikipedia Odia (Oriya) mailing list
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:33:56 +0530
From: CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press]: Angry with Wikileaks, Indian
Union minister for law and justice Veerappa Moily "lashes against
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Angry with Wikileaks, Indian Union minister for law and justice Veerappa
Moily "lashes against Wikipedia"
".. *Union minister for law and justice Veerappa Moily on Tuesday criticized
WikiLeaks for playing havoc in the democracies of many countries. These are
all products which create instability in many countries, he said.
?Information can also be misleading. There is much controversy over the
website Wikipedia, which is used as a first point of reference for many
people seeking information. Wikipedia authors are anonymous and literally
anyone can post a Wikipedia article on any subject, regardless of whether
they are qualified or know much about the subject,? he said ..*."
Full text on Financial Express newspaper.
: Verrry funny !!!! Thanks and compliments to you , mother India !!!,
your 21st century verry very well informed law minister is making you
and us feel so proud !! Think mother India, think again, think to change
this wrong Indian democracy, where people have been voting anonymously,
no education qualification or background needed for voting
and even no qualification and background needed for getting elected.Hope
your fresh generations in the law ministry change all that for better !
:All our best wishes to the incumbent Law Minister in getting chance to
choose best chief justices for India and best wishes for his career to
grow into foreign minister of India, a chief justice of India,chief
justice of International court President of India and last but not least
to become chief of United Nations
@Oh those all who gave Vaidic Sutras in ancient India -wherever you
are, its good you credited all your work to God and did not do anonymous
writing otherwise Independent India's law ministry would have been
pretty unhappy with you !!!
@Respected Rabindranath Tagoreji Wherever you are , The best thing ever
did for yourself is you did not write following poem anonymously
otherwise Law Ministry Independent India would not have been pleased
Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high;
knowledge is free;
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments
by narrow domestic walls;
Where words come out from the depth of truth;
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection:
the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the dreary desert
sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is lead forward by thee into
ever-widening thought and action—Into that heaven of freedom,
let my country awake.
My Father,please please please, let my ... honorable Ministers and Ministries awake !!!
I'm not fully sure where the community is going on this topic, but here's my
two cents on deletion of articles in Indian /any language wikipedias:
*It should not happen. Period.*
At least not until we reach a qualitative number that is proportional to the
population of people in the world that knows that language. Look at the
charts. Where is any Indian language? Hindi is bloody
language has more articles than we do! Do you think there are
more Lithuanian speaking people on this planet than there are Hindi speaking
people?? How about we ask them if they went on a murdering spree when they
Q: But 95% are vandalism/biased/useless!
A: So put a "Vandalized article" template on it that says it in HUMONGOUSLY
HUGE letters that even a chimpanzee can read and put it out there that we
need someone to come and un-vandalize it, for the humanity's sake! If we
treat articles on wikipedia as living documents, then what we are doing by
deletion is genocide.
Q: But they decrease the quality!
A: Why are you expecting a 5 minute old baby to score well in a 12th grade
exam? Do you mind giving it some time to mature on its own before failing it
and then fussing about "oh, it's not good enough!" Who gave anybody the
right to judge a baby's future potential?
Q: But they are dangerous to the community and Humanity and blah and
A: First, take your ego and any pride you may have, and shove it. Then,
prove your claims. One stub/vandalized article that is publicly declared to
be a stub / vandalized article.... is going to end the world? Oh, really!!
Is it going to show India in a bad light? Who the bloody hell gave
wikipedians the authority to represent India? Who voted you into power??
Does the English Wikipedia represent UK/USA ? Can we please de-link the
nation from its languages? Last I checked, a lot of non-Indians speak Hindi
the same way a lot of Indians speak German or Japanese.
Q: What's the problem with deleting crappy articles?
A: The exact same problem that comes from Indians aborting a girl child
because in their present environment they feel she will be a crappy addition
to the family. Right now, at this point in time and space, YOU may feel that
the particular article isn't necessary. Your opinions are subjective to the
environment you are in. Your opinion may change tomorrow, but that
contributor you chased out will not come back just like all those girls we
aborted will not come back, or like all those mothers who were forced to
abort, will not forgive their husband or in-laws. I beg YOU to live and let
live. Suspend your judgment; don't be so harsh in your pursuit for
perfection. It might turn out that the article you allowed to exist today
may become the BEST article in that wikipedia tomorrow, the same way that
girl child we do not abort today may become a role model for all Indians
*Suggestion: How about creating a "baby" template and so setting a proper
path to maturity, making room for the extremities of puberty (aka, bias,
vandalism etc etc) in between while preventing this genocidally judgmental
Q: What's the problem with deleting?
A: Do you have a problem with NOT deleting? Are those few bytes occupied
going to bring the servers down? Do you mind putting a template there and
backing off? Do you mind thinking constructively for once?
Q: If we encourage the vandals, they'll get more prolific and they'll...
A: ...And we'll revert the instances of vandalism, identify and block the
repeat offenders, or influence them to turn a page like we always do. Every
vandal is a human being that isn't programmed the way your are accusing
him/her to be. Nobody has any evil agenda against our wikipedias. There is
no incentive for anyone to do what we are fear-mongering about; rather the
only incentive exists in the opposite direction. Stop living in a warped
psychological state where we need an enemy to justify our own existence,
stop destroying the future in the name of defense against an enemy that does
not exist. If you're sure they do, please prove your claims. The problem we
are discussing is about deletion of new articles. Don't hijack it with
insecurities, negativity and fear-mongering.
Even in English Wikipedia, there is a growing movement to stop speedy
deletions that are being perceived by many to have gone out of control and
to be doing more harm than good, for they are giving disproportionate power
to the incumbents. Over the next few years, expect a rot and stagnation
there if these destructive attitudes continue. Just because some one else is
possibly jumping off a cliff, why should we?
*Some wikipedians look at articles the way they are and wonder "Why"? and
then go around deleting them like it's their God-given duty to throw the
baby out with the bath water.
I dream of articles that never were, wonder "Why Not?" and believe in
allowing those 95% new crazy articles to EXIST, because within a few years,
as surely as the sun rises from the East, I guarantee you almost all those
articles will transform into non-vandalized and good articles if you just
allowed them to breathe a little instead of murdering them.
Controversial Statement: Today, it is the deleters among the community that
are the real Vandals of Indian language wikipedias, for they are
unintentionally destroying the future while pretending to defend a feeble
(hey, we say the new editors shouldn't take it negatively or personally when
they are charged with vandalism or bias and their creations are wiped out...
now let's see our oldies stand up to the same test! Feeling offended on
being called Vandals, guys? Don't take it personally! :P)
Yeah, that's about it. Peace, May you all Live and Let Live and not commit
bloody genocide in the name of quality.
PS: The baby analogy will DEFINITELY bring more female editors in. Try it!
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