Hey,
I see your point. Would you find the geocoding approach acceptible if an open source service was available next to the ones of Google and Yahoo? I've been seraching for such an altternate and open source service before the 0.2 release, but simply was unable to find a decent working one. If you know one, please let me know!
I'm going to poke Yaron about your suggestion to add the DMS notation, if he thinks it's a good idea, I'll implement it before 0.4. Of course, if someone feels like doing that, feel free to do so, but give me a poke to avoid double work.
Cheers,
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From: Temlakos <temlakos(a)gmail.com>
To: jeroen De Dauw <jeroen_dedauw(a)yahoo.com>
Cc: semediawiki-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net; mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:47:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released
Jeroen:
Geocoding means using a proprietary service, and getting a license that could easily be revoked. I don't know how acquainted you are with American politics, but let me tell you this: Google.com has been playing politics with their search engine, their tools, everything. They have rigged their searches to push politically conservative and religiously oriented sites to the bottom of the rankings--which is why my wiki never bears mention in any search on Google, but they bear plenty of good mention on other search engines.
If they have demonstrated their willingness to play politics with their search engine, what is to stop them from playing politics with any of their other /proprietary/ APIs? A /proprietor/ reserves the right to refuse service to anyone, for any reason or no reason.
I don't want to be held at the mercy of any /proprietor/. That rather defeats, even violates, the purpose of open-source. I want to be able to do all my maps on OpenLayers, and stay away from Google, if I can. I'm not even sure that our license (the GFDL) would even /allow/ us to do anything else. That aside, we have a policy to stay a million kilometers away from anything that even hints at a legal encumbrance.
Besides: some of my sites are ancient, and might not even exist anymore. For such sites, geocoding, even /open-source/ geocoding, would be flatly impossible.
Temlakos
jeroen De Dauw wrote:
> Hey,
>
> >Does either Maps or Semantic Maps provide a means by which to display a
> map with a marker at a set of coordinates given in degrees, minutes, and
> seconds?
> No, they do not support that notation. It would not be that hard to implement, but no one has asked for it before, so I guess the demand is pretty low.
> Is simply geocoding the actual addresses with the build in #geocode parser function [0] not an option? That way you can avoid having to work with coordinates all together.
>
> [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps#Geocoding
>
> Cheers,
> Jeroen De Dauw
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> Blog: blog.bn2vs.com <http://blog.bn2vs.com>
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>
> Don't panic. Don't be evil.
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>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Temlakos <temlakos(a)gmail.com>
> *To:* jeroen De Dauw <jeroen_dedauw(a)yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* semediawiki-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net; mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:18:19 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released
>
> Dear Jeroen:
>
> Does either Maps or Semantic Maps provide a means by which to display a
> map with a marker at a set of coordinates given in degrees, minutes, and
> seconds? All your examples for simple display of a single point use
> floating-point degree quantities. This would force me to hand-convert,
> and that seems rather pointless to me.
>
> What I would like to do is design a template for a settlement, or a
> landmark (e.g., mountain, hill, valley), that will include a map of the
> immediate region and automatically place a marker at the specified
> coordinates in the article on that settlement or landmark.
>
> A query formatted as a map with many points on it looks great. And it
> would be wonderful for an article on a country, because I could place
> markers for every city and/or landmark in that country. But when I write
> an article for a city or a mountain, I annotate coordinates in degrees,
> minutes, and seconds. Or must I get used to specifying them in floats?
>
> Temlakos
>
> jeroen De Dauw wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > First of all, let me introduce myself.
> > I'm Jeroen De Dauw, one of the GSoC students for Wikimedia foundation
> > this year. During the last 2 months I've been working on 2 new mapping
> > extensions for MediaWiki and Semantic MediaWiki
> > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki> [0] with Yaron
> > Koren <http://yaronkoren.com/> [1] as mentor. You can read more about
> > this at my blog <http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/> [2].
> >
> > The first version of both extensions has just been released. These are
> > the extensions:
> >
> > Maps
> > Maps <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps> [3] is an
> > extension that provides the ability to display coordinate data, using
> > multiple mapping services, including Google Maps [4], OpenLayers [5]
> > and Yahoo Maps [6], and allows users to geocode addresses.
> >
> > Semantic Maps
> > Semantic Maps <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps>
> > [7] is an extension that adds semantic capabilities to the Maps
> > extension, and therefore provides the ability to add, view and edit
> > coordinate data stored through the Semantic MediaWiki extension, using
> > multiple mapping services. These include Google Maps, OpenLayers and
> > Yahoo Maps. Semantic Maps and Maps are based on Semantic Google Maps
> > and Semantic Layers, and are meant to replace these extensions. For
> > this extension to work, you need to have both Semantic MediaWiki and
> > Maps installed.
> >
> > You can download both extensions via their documentation pages.
> > Suggestions and feature requests are welcome.
> >
> > [0] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki
> > [1] http://yaronkoren.com/
> > [2] http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/
> > [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps
> > [4] http://code.google.com/apis/maps/
> > [5] http://openlayers.org/
> > [6] http://developer.yahoo.com/maps/
> > [7] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps
> > > Cheers,
> > De Dauw '[RTS]BN+VS*' Jeroen
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T> seconds? All your examples for simple display of a single point use
T> floating-point degree quantities. This would force me to hand-convert,
T> and that seems rather pointless to me.
Hmmm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Coord can take both
formats for example.
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Hi,
I have installed svn on my mediawiki server. I'm able to access the svn
repository through the browser.
However, what are the settings that are required to map a local drive to the
svn repository?
I have a linux server. How to map a local drive on windows OS the svn
repository( on the linux server) using the "map network drive" option.
I guess I have to set the svnrepository to share. I am not so sure how to do
this. Can anyone provide me with directions to achieve this?
Thanks
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Just want to let the reader know a problem that occurs in MediaWiki
1.16alpha (r55306) if one has not upgraded to php5.3.
Browsing http://radioscanningtw.jidanni.org/index.php?title=桃園縣消防局&action=history
gives in /var/log/apache2/error.log:
[Wed Aug 19 13:46:24 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] ALERT - possible memory corruption detected - unknown Hashtable destructor (attacker '127.0.0.1', file '/home/jidanni/mediawiki/includes/Linker.php', line 1025)
1022 $linked = preg_replace_callback(
1023 '/^:?(.*?)(\|(.*?))*\]\]([^[]*)/',
1024 array( $this, 'formatLinksInCommentCallback' ),
1025 $line, -1, $count );
1026 if( !$count ) { // No valid link found, put the brackets back
1027 $linked = '[[' . $linked;
1028 }
Adding a uselang=en gives
[Wed Aug 19 13:55:34 2009] [notice] child pid 3502 exit signal Segmentation fault (11), possible coredump in /tmp
Using the methods of
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535770 I only get
(gdb) bt full
#0 0xb77ebd2f in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
Oh well
(That was all on my home machine. On the public Dreamhost edition of my
wiki you will just see a 500 HTTP error. And I will just see
"Premature end of script headers: php5.cgi" in error.log)
Anyways, when it doesn't coredump, it makes a curious mixture of Chinese and English dates:
• (當前) (先前) ( )(*) 2009年8月16日 (日) 16:21 123.195.169.35 (108位元組) (取消由Luyichi (對話)所作出的修訂 4331) (undo)
• (當前) (先前) (*)( ) 09:11, 9 July 2009 Luyichi (Talk | contribs) (93 bytes) (取消由Luyichi (對話)所作出的修訂 4330) (undo)
• (當前) (先前) ( )( ) 16:43, 2 July 2009 Luyichi (Talk | contribs) (108 bytes) (undo)
P.S., it would be neat if the owners of this mailing list would let
Google index it, for the next person that encounters a Segfault.
Conclusion: one should upgrade to php5.3... Wait: Special:Preferences
will Segfault in php5.3
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535770 .)
Hi,
can I somehow create subwikis? I have a wiki where everyone (with access to
the webserver) has access to. I would like to create a new "zone" where I
can put other content. Some special persons (that may not have access to the
"root" wiki) should have access here.
Is that possible? 2 webservers with two different wiki installations but the
content of the second wiki can be accessed/displayed/embedded in the first
wiki not only as a link but as full content?
Thanks Helmut
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Hey Everyone,
I've been looking around all day and all the solutions I have tried did not
work. My issue is a fairly common one. After uploading a file I get:
Internal Error
Could not rename file "C:\wamp\tmp\php16F.tmp" to "public/c/c7/test.png"
media wiki creates the folders "c" and "c7" inside of the images folder, but
fails to move the image. During the upload i can see the
file "C:\wamp\tmp\php16F.tmp" being created, then disappearing.
I tried changing directory permissions in windows, changing the upload dir
for mediawiki and changing the the mediawiki upload permissions. file upload
is enabled in PHP.
This is a wamp virtual host, the sites are located on the D: and wamp is
installed (obviously) to the C:.
The windows issues I found seemed to be related to IIS, which doesn't apply
here since apache runs under whatever user opens wamp.
Any help would be great, Thanks!
-Rob