MediaWiki-l August 2009

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released
by jeroen De Dauw 23 Aug '09

23 Aug '09

Hey, I see your point. Would you find the geocoding approach acceptible if an open source service was available next to the ones of Google and Yahoo? I've been seraching for such an altternate and open source service before the 0.2 release, but simply was unable to find a decent working one. If you know one, please let me know! I'm going to poke Yaron about your suggestion to add the DMS notation, if he thinks it's a good idea, I'll implement it before 0.4. Of course, if someone feels like doing that, feel free to do so, but give me a poke to avoid double work. Cheers, Jeroen De Dauw Forum: code.bn2vs.com Blog: blog.bn2vs.com Skype: rts.bn.vs ; Xfire: bn2vs Don't panic. Don't be evil. 70 72 6F 67 72 61 6D 6D 69 6E 67 20 34 20 6C 69 66 65! ________________________________ From: Temlakos <temlakos(a)gmail.com> To: jeroen De Dauw <jeroen_dedauw(a)yahoo.com> Cc: semediawiki-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net; mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:47:14 PM Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released Jeroen: Geocoding means using a proprietary service, and getting a license that could easily be revoked. I don't know how acquainted you are with American politics, but let me tell you this: Google.com has been playing politics with their search engine, their tools, everything. They have rigged their searches to push politically conservative and religiously oriented sites to the bottom of the rankings--which is why my wiki never bears mention in any search on Google, but they bear plenty of good mention on other search engines. If they have demonstrated their willingness to play politics with their search engine, what is to stop them from playing politics with any of their other /proprietary/ APIs? A /proprietor/ reserves the right to refuse service to anyone, for any reason or no reason. I don't want to be held at the mercy of any /proprietor/. That rather defeats, even violates, the purpose of open-source. I want to be able to do all my maps on OpenLayers, and stay away from Google, if I can. I'm not even sure that our license (the GFDL) would even /allow/ us to do anything else. That aside, we have a policy to stay a million kilometers away from anything that even hints at a legal encumbrance. Besides: some of my sites are ancient, and might not even exist anymore. For such sites, geocoding, even /open-source/ geocoding, would be flatly impossible. Temlakos jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > >Does either Maps or Semantic Maps provide a means by which to display a > map with a marker at a set of coordinates given in degrees, minutes, and > seconds? > No, they do not support that notation. It would not be that hard to implement, but no one has asked for it before, so I guess the demand is pretty low. > Is simply geocoding the actual addresses with the build in #geocode parser function [0] not an option? That way you can avoid having to work with coordinates all together. > > [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps#Geocoding > > Cheers, > Jeroen De Dauw > Forum: code <http://code.bn2vs.com>.bn2vs.com <http://code.bn2vs.com> > Blog: blog.bn2vs.com <http://blog.bn2vs.com> > Skype: rts.bn.vs ; Xfire: bn2vs > > Don't panic. Don't be evil. > 70 72 6F 67 72 61 6D 6D 69 6E 67 20 34 20 6C 69 66 65! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Temlakos <temlakos(a)gmail.com> > *To:* jeroen De Dauw <jeroen_dedauw(a)yahoo.com> > *Cc:* semediawiki-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net; mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 3:18:19 AM > *Subject:* Re: [SMW-devel] Maps and Semantic Maps released > > Dear Jeroen: > > Does either Maps or Semantic Maps provide a means by which to display a > map with a marker at a set of coordinates given in degrees, minutes, and > seconds? All your examples for simple display of a single point use > floating-point degree quantities. This would force me to hand-convert, > and that seems rather pointless to me. > > What I would like to do is design a template for a settlement, or a > landmark (e.g., mountain, hill, valley), that will include a map of the > immediate region and automatically place a marker at the specified > coordinates in the article on that settlement or landmark. > > A query formatted as a map with many points on it looks great. And it > would be wonderful for an article on a country, because I could place > markers for every city and/or landmark in that country. But when I write > an article for a city or a mountain, I annotate coordinates in degrees, > minutes, and seconds. Or must I get used to specifying them in floats? > > Temlakos > > jeroen De Dauw wrote: > > Hey, > > > > First of all, let me introduce myself. > > I'm Jeroen De Dauw, one of the GSoC students for Wikimedia foundation > > this year. During the last 2 months I've been working on 2 new mapping > > extensions for MediaWiki and Semantic MediaWiki > > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki> [0] with Yaron > > Koren <http://yaronkoren.com/> [1] as mentor. You can read more about > > this at my blog <http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/> [2]. > > > > The first version of both extensions has just been released. These are > > the extensions: > > > > Maps > > Maps <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps> [3] is an > > extension that provides the ability to display coordinate data, using > > multiple mapping services, including Google Maps [4], OpenLayers [5] > > and Yahoo Maps [6], and allows users to geocode addresses. > > > > Semantic Maps > > Semantic Maps <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps> > > [7] is an extension that adds semantic capabilities to the Maps > > extension, and therefore provides the ability to add, view and edit > > coordinate data stored through the Semantic MediaWiki extension, using > > multiple mapping services. These include Google Maps, OpenLayers and > > Yahoo Maps. Semantic Maps and Maps are based on Semantic Google Maps > > and Semantic Layers, and are meant to replace these extensions. For > > this extension to work, you need to have both Semantic MediaWiki and > > Maps installed. > > > > You can download both extensions via their documentation pages. > > Suggestions and feature requests are welcome. > > > > [0] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki > > [1] http://yaronkoren.com/ > > [2] http://blog.bn2vs.com/tag/semantic-maps/ > > [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps > > [4] http://code.google.com/apis/maps/ > > [5] http://openlayers.org/ > > [6] http://developer.yahoo.com/maps/ > > [7] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps > > > Cheers, > > De Dauw '[RTS]BN+VS*' Jeroen > > > Forum: code <http://code.bn2vs.com>.bn2vs.com <http://code.bn2vs.com> > > Blog: blog.bn2vs.com <http://blog.bn2vs.com> > > Xfire: bn2vs ; Skype: rts.bn.vs > > > > Don't panic. Don't be evil. > > 70 72 6F 67 72 61 6D 6D 69 6E 67 20 34 20 6C 69 66 65! > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > > Semediawiki-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Semediawiki-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Maps and Semantic Maps released
by jidanni＠jidanni.org 23 Aug '09

23 Aug '09

T> seconds? All your examples for simple display of a single point use T> floating-point degree quantities. This would force me to hand-convert, T> and that seems rather pointless to me. Hmmm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Coord can take both formats for example.

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Wikimania Codeathon in Buenos Aires next week
by Brion Vibber 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

Wikimania’s classic “Hacking Days” event is back, and better than ever as the Wikimania Codeathon will be open throughout the entire conference this year: http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Codeathon Based on the success of April’s Developer Meet-up in Berlin, we’re starting with an “unconference”-style planning session to let attendees break out into common working groups. The fun begins at 10am Tuesday, August 25 (note — this is the day before the main conference begins). The coding room will remain open throughout the rest of the conference, so folks can pop in and out between other sessions. We’ll be in Room F at the Centro Cultural, which should be nicely spacious. Non-developers are welcome during the conference if you just need a quiet place to sit and check on your sockpuppet accounts. ;) There’ll be a wrap-up presentation in Room 3 at 14:00 Friday, August 28 to give folks a chance to do mini-talks on what they’ve been working on. If you’re planning to attend, either in person or virtually via IRC, please add yourself to the list on the wiki to help coordinate: http://wikimania2009.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Codeathon#I.27m_interested -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org) CTO, Wikimedia Foundation San Francisco

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Mapping svnrepository on linux server to a local drive on windows
by sirisha mosalikanti 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

Hi, I have installed svn on my mediawiki server. I'm able to access the svn repository through the browser. However, what are the settings that are required to map a local drive to the svn repository? I have a linux server. How to map a local drive on windows OS the svn repository( on the linux server) using the "map network drive" option. I guess I have to set the svnrepository to share. I am not so sure how to do this. Can anyone provide me with directions to achieve this? Thanks Sirisha -- Sirisha. Everyday is an oppurtinity to make a new happy ending :)

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Welcome to mediawiki-l (weekly posting)
by river＠nightshade.toolserver.org 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

Welcome to mediawiki-l. This mailing list exists for discussion and questions about the MediaWiki software[0]. Important MediaWiki-related announcements (such as new versions) are also posted to this list. Other resources. If you only wish to receive announcements, you should subscribe to mediawiki-announce[1] instead. MediaWiki development discussion, and all Wikimedia technical questions, should be directed to the wikitech-l[2] mailing list. Several other MediaWiki-related lists exist: - mediawiki-api[5] for API discussions, - mediawiki-enterprise[6] for discussion of MediaWiki in the enterprise, - mediawiki-cvs[7] for notification of commits to the Subversion repository, - mediawiki-i18n[8] for discussion of MediaWiki internationalisation support, - wikibugs-l[9] for notification of changes to the bug tracker. List administrivia (unsubscribing, list archives). To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit [12]. Archives of previous postings can be found at [3]. This list is also gatewayed to the Gmane NNTP server[4], which you can use to read and post to the list. Posting to the list. Before posting to this list, please read the MediaWiki FAQ[10]. Many common questions are answered here. You may also search the list archives to see if your question has been asked before. Please try to ask your question in a way that enables people to answer you. Provide all relevant details, explain your problem clearly, etc. You may wish to read [13], which explains how to ask questions well. To post to the list, send mail to <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>. This is a public list, so you should not include confidential information in mails you send. When replying to an existing thread, use the "Reply" or "Followup" feature of your mail client, so that clients that understand threading can sort your message properly. When quoting other messages, please use the "inline" quoting style[11], for clarity. When creating a new thread, do not reply to an existing message and change the subject. This will confuse peoples' mail readers, and will result in fewer people reading your mail. Instead, compose a new message for your post. Messages posted to the list have the "Reply-To" header set to the mailing list, which means that by default, replies will go to the entire list. If you are posting a reply which is only interesting to the original poster, and not the list in general, you should change the reply to only go to that person. This avoids cluttering the list with irrelevant traffic. About this message. This message is posted to the list once per week by <river(a)wikimedia.org>. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns about this mailing. References. [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/ [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce [2] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l [3] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ [4] http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki [5] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api [6] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise [7] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-cvs [8] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n [9] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l [10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ [11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Inline_replying [12] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l [13] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Segmentation fault with php5.2, OK in php5.3
by jidanni＠jidanni.org 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Just want to let the reader know a problem that occurs in MediaWiki 1.16alpha (r55306) if one has not upgraded to php5.3. Browsing http://radioscanningtw.jidanni.org/index.php?title=桃園縣消防局&action=history gives in /var/log/apache2/error.log: [Wed Aug 19 13:46:24 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] ALERT - possible memory corruption detected - unknown Hashtable destructor (attacker '127.0.0.1', file '/home/jidanni/mediawiki/includes/Linker.php', line 1025) 1022 $linked = preg_replace_callback( 1023 '/^:?(.*?)(\|(.*?))*\]\]([^[]*)/', 1024 array( $this, 'formatLinksInCommentCallback' ), 1025 $line, -1, $count ); 1026 if( !$count ) { // No valid link found, put the brackets back 1027 $linked = '[[' . $linked; 1028 } Adding a uselang=en gives [Wed Aug 19 13:55:34 2009] [notice] child pid 3502 exit signal Segmentation fault (11), possible coredump in /tmp Using the methods of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535770 I only get (gdb) bt full #0 0xb77ebd2f in ?? () No symbol table info available. Oh well (That was all on my home machine. On the public Dreamhost edition of my wiki you will just see a 500 HTTP error. And I will just see "Premature end of script headers: php5.cgi" in error.log) Anyways, when it doesn't coredump, it makes a curious mixture of Chinese and English dates: • (當前) (先前) ( )(*) 2009年8月16日 (日) 16:21 123.195.169.35 (108位元組) (取消由Luyichi (對話)所作出的修訂 4331) (undo) • (當前) (先前) (*)( ) 09:11, 9 July 2009 Luyichi (Talk | contribs) (93 bytes) (取消由Luyichi (對話)所作出的修訂 4330) (undo) • (當前) (先前) ( )( ) 16:43, 2 July 2009 Luyichi (Talk | contribs) (108 bytes) (undo) P.S., it would be neat if the owners of this mailing list would let Google index it, for the next person that encounters a Segfault. Conclusion: one should upgrade to php5.3... Wait: Special:Preferences will Segfault in php5.3 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535770 .)

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SubWiki
by Helmut Schneider 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Hi, can I somehow create subwikis? I have a wiki where everyone (with access to the webserver) has access to. I would like to create a new "zone" where I can put other content. Some special persons (that may not have access to the "root" wiki) should have access here. Is that possible? 2 webservers with two different wiki installations but the content of the second wiki can be accessed/displayed/embedded in the first wiki not only as a link but as full content? Thanks Helmut -- No Swen today, my love has gone away My mailbox stands for lorn, a symbol of the dawn

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sortable problem
by Lennie Jarratt 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Any suggestions? I have been looking for a solution, but nothing is working. http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/User:Ljarratt# Lennie -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/ljarratt Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/people/Lennie_Jarratt/1182350486 "The necessity of the times, more than ever, calls for our utmost circumspection, deliberation, fortitude, and perseverance." - Samuel Adams

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Utilisation de MediaWiki sur un réseau local
by Anna CASTILLA 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

Bonjour, J’aimerais savoir si vous savez s’il est possible de faire des liens hypertextes vers des répertoires et fichiers en local. J’ai essayé mais manifestement, cela ne fonctionne pas. Je vous remercie. Cordialement, Anna Castilla annacastilla959(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Vous voulez savoir ce que vous pouvez faire avec le nouveau Windows Live ? Lancez-vous ! http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx

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WAMP and Uploads
by Rob Isakson 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

Hey Everyone, I've been looking around all day and all the solutions I have tried did not work. My issue is a fairly common one. After uploading a file I get: Internal Error Could not rename file "C:\wamp\tmp\php16F.tmp" to "public/c/c7/test.png" media wiki creates the folders "c" and "c7" inside of the images folder, but fails to move the image. During the upload i can see the file "C:\wamp\tmp\php16F.tmp" being created, then disappearing. I tried changing directory permissions in windows, changing the upload dir for mediawiki and changing the the mediawiki upload permissions. file upload is enabled in PHP. This is a wamp virtual host, the sites are located on the D: and wamp is installed (obviously) to the C:. The windows issues I found seemed to be related to IIS, which doesn't apply here since apache runs under whatever user opens wamp. Any help would be great, Thanks! -Rob

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