MediaWiki-l June 2007

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Redirect Routine?
by Michael B Allen 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Is there a routine for redirecting the client to a page by name? I would rather not have to try and build a Location header URL if there is already such a function. Mike -- Michael B Allen PHP Active Directory Kerberos SSO http://www.ioplex.com/

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Questions on lucene-search-2.0
by Trey Valenta 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

I was finally able to install the Lucene search engine using the code from http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/lucene-search-2.0, but I have some questions regarding updating indexes. Options for the importer are listed as: -n - create a new index (erase the old one if exists) -s - make index snapshot when finished -l limit_num - add at most limit_num articles -o optimize - true/false overrides optimization param from global settings -m mergeFactor - overrides param from global settings -b maxBufDocs - overrides param from global settings --snapshot <db> - make snapshot only for dbname Can anyone suggest an ideal way for updating the indexes? I've setup an hourly cronjob to dump current wiki content, import the dump, and make an index snapshot when finished (-s). Is this preferred over just creating a new index each hour? Thanks in advance, Trey Valenta

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RSS and DynamicPageList Clash
by Mark Kieffer 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Hi, I tried to get some help on this issue a couple weeks ago but received no response, so I am trying again. The wiki I work on uses the extensions Xfeeds and DynamicPageList. Whenever they are used on the same page though, there is an error on the rss_parse.inc folder in magpierss. Please check out one of the pages<http://datafedwiki.wustl.edu/index.php/Consoles>. The version of mediawiki that we use is MediaWiki: 1.9.3 PHP: 5.2.1 MySQL: 5.0.37 Thanks in advance Mark

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Extension manager
by Monahon, Peter B. 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

> Off list, a fellow MediaWikil-ian > wrote to Peter Blaise: Y'know, > If you dropped the attitude and > quit baiting people, you'd be > more welcome here ... Don't > pretend to represent all "end > users." Just say "Thank you, > that is something that helps > ME out." ... There are a lot > of people here with their own > vision. Try to impose yours > upon them, and at best, you'll > get ignored. You're about two > or three "holier than thou" > messages from getting into > my own kill file ... Peter Blaise responds: Sorry. You're absolutely right. I speak as if sitting around a MediaWikil-table, face to face with each of you, presumptive of our ongoing relationship, giving as good as I get (snip/snap!), and that's a no-go on the Internet where we can't recognize our connections to each other except through our (mis)interpretations of each other's writing. If we met at a local coffee shop, we'd probably read each other's faces as primary indicators of intention, and forgive a lot of what we can't seem to tolerate on any chat group. Does this help: =8^o ;-) I read your note above as caring to be all-inclusive here, and have everyone "just get along", including me. Thanks! Yes, I a probably appear opinionated, but you're right, I can only speak for myself. I'm much more open-minded and resourceful than you presume. Don't confuse assertiveness, even aggressiveness as being adamant or opinionated (which is "stubborn adherence and unreasonable dismissal of other's views"). I'm trying to be persuasive, and you probably experience me as belligerent. Ooops. Time to pull back and rethink! Lemme look up diplomacy: "skill and tact in dealing with other people". Hmm ... since I self-sooth regardless of how I'm treated, and forge on, I forget others may stop and take umbrage. Good point. "Hey, folks, wouldn't it be nice if ..." comes across as critical, and you suggest simply asking, "I'd prefer ...". Subtle. I think you're accusing me of being insensitive to others, asking me to be sensitive to others, and asking me to be insensitive to the barbs of others. Quite a dance! Anyway, to the entire group, now, past, and future, I say: Please do not take anything I write personally since I do not know anyone here personally, yet. Please self-sooth, as I do. Vent if you want to, as I do. I do not want you to go away if we disagree, nor will I kill-filter anyone here. Know that I WANT you all here, and more. Invite your friends. If you're not interested in a post, or don't like a post, scroll on. If you respond, great! And, please consider accepting responses and responders you don't necessarily (have to) like, as I do. If you don't want to respond or contribute, I can't stop you. Life is like that. Ooops. =8^o MY life is like that. ;-) I apologize 1,000% to anyone who takes offense or umbrage to my writing. That is not my intention, and I take back anything I wrote, or will write, anything that is inarticulate and inaccurately represents my intentions, or is received opposite to my intentions. I'm happy to edit and try again, and again, and again, until I get it right. -- Peter Blaise PS - In the mean time, enjoy your weekends, and drink in the glorious vision of a hard earned climb like the one at http://www.bytesmiths.com/Item/85AE08 where a rock and a tree are locked together in one common experience, much like each of us here - separated yet one.

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Extension manager
by Monahon, Peter B. 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

> David wrote: ... you're not the customer, > you're another potential developer ;-) Peter Blaise responds: Thanks, Dave. I think you've identified one central problem - nobody seems to know what a "customer" is! Perhaps they are just doing all this coding for their own entertainment after all. That explains a lot. Anyway, my point is: just because this is "open source" does not mean we have to forget all the advances in the features and benefits of user interface design, many that were achieved 20 years ago. I'm trying to inspire customer service; you're trying to explain lack of customer service. It makes sense, then, that our posts would seem to argue with each other - we're talking about different things. -- Peter Blaise ------------------------------ > Frederik wrote: DFTT - please. Peter Blaise responds: Hi, Frederik. You say 'don't feed the trolls', AND you put it in an email to the group, eh? Irony? Google [define:Troll]: "a newsgroup post that is deliberately incorrect, intended to provoke readers; or a person who makes such a post". Though I have no problem being provocative, I strive for accuracy. Hey, that's why I've been looking for a resource map on MediaWiki installation, config, use, maintenance, and so on - to support my customers as accurately as possible. I've been building such a resource as I go along, and others are pitching in long before me, and subsequently. If you know anything that will help, please share links to MediaWiki.org where you share it. New: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface ... thanks to, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rogerhc I put some on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Interface and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Peterblaise and more, but I have a long way to go. Troll indeed! Frederiktionary [define:troll]: "anyone Frederik disagrees with". Thanks. xo's -- Peter Blaise

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Extension manager
by Monahon, Peter B. 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

> Kasimir wrote: Are there any talks of > implementing an extension manager > and a proper extension repository? > Something that will allow new versions > to be detected, downloaded, UPGRADE > files to be displayed, etc all from one > location? Something that could also > allow enabling, disabling, installing, > and uninstalling extensions? I would > be willing to work on one if there is > a demand. Like Firefox's built in extension manager http://opensourcearticles.com/articles/introduction_to_firefox_4 and it's market-provided extensions https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:1 right? Make your own http://businesslogs.com/technology/firefox_extension_tutorial.php Now you're getting the picture of what end user's (including installers, admins and visitors) expect from their on-screen experience. GREAT IDEA! - Peter Blaise PS - Now, what ideas can we adapt and adopt from Quicken, Word perfect, Lotus 1-2-3 ... Xteq X-Setup, TweakUI ... But don't let these ideas leak into the developer chat group, we wouldn't want to spoil their sealed container with any new (old) ideas, or actual customer expectations, now, would we?!? ;-)

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Are subpages counted as articles?
by Joseph Beaudoin 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Hello everyone, A quick question: Are subpages on the main namespace counted as articles by the MediaWiki statistics page? - Joe

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Search doesn't work
by Martin Weissen 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Hello list, My search doesn't work as i expect. If i search for "VPN" or "vpn", mediawiki isn't able to find anything but i have articles with these words (vpn) on it and i didn't used templates at all. i am useing mediawiki 1.10.0 and i didn't changed the default settings... any ideas? do i have to configure something? thanks and regards Martin Weissen ps: i am sorry for my bad english...

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How to do multi-lingual co-ordination?
by Shuan Lo 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Good question Paul. I wonder how is it done in Wikipedia. Is it one wiki or several? Which one is more suitable for my needs? What I am tasked to do should hold matching, but may not be identical, content in different languages - like what Wikipedia appears to me. > Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 06:18:11 -0400 > From: Paul Coghlan <pcoghlan(a)usa.net> > Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] How to do multi-lingual co-ordination? > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list > <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <C28D53A3.A577%pcoghlan(a)usa.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Shuan > > Are you trying to have a single wiki holding multi-lingual or have multiple > wikis (English, Spanish, German etc) that hold the same information but in > different languages? > > Each is possible but fundamentally quite different. > > Paul > > On 6/7/07 6:10 AM, "Shuan Lo" <shuanlo(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> Hi! >> >> I'm totally new to MediaWiki. I hope I'm posting this question to the >> right place. Please forgive me if I'm wroing. >> >> I've been tasked to plan and design a content management site that will >> host multi-lingual content - just like Wikipedia. I'm wondering how the >> link-ups between different lingual content is done. Is it done manually, >> or is there a functionality in MediaWiki for doing such co-ordinations? >> >> Any advice will be appreciated. Thank you! >> >> Shuan >> >> >> >>

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dumpHTML.php
by Ken McDonald 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

When trying to create a static copy of our wiki using "dumpHTL.php" (mediawiki 1.6.9), there wasn't any obvious "index.html" file created, and bringing up another page and trying to go to the "main page" wouldn't work. Also, our CSS styles (skin) were not used. Any tricks to getting this working or (perhaps) to get a more recent version of dumpHTML working? Thanks, Ken

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