MediaWiki-l February 2005

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My Newbie question
by Aldon Hynes 15 Feb '05

15 Feb '05

Hopefully there is a really easy way to do this, and I've just failed to find in the documentation how to do it... Is there any way to set up a page so that it lists information that people contribute, as well as provides a listing of all the pages that link to it. e.g. ------------------------------------------------------ [Aldon Hynes] Aldon Hynes lives in [Connecticut] ------------------------------------------------------ [Jim Dean] Jim Dean lives in [Connecticut] ------------------------------------------------------ [Connecticut] Connecticut has five congress people. Important people that live in Connecticut include: *** At this point, it would list me and Jim. If someone set up a new page which also included [Connecticut] that would automatically show up in the list *** ------------------------------------------------------ or ------------------------------------------------------- [cat] A cat is a type of [mammal] that humans often keep as a pet ------------------------------------------------------- [cow] A cow is a type of [mammal] that humans often raise for get milk ------------------------------------------------------- [mammal] A mammal is a type of [animal] that nurses its young. For mammals list here, please see: *** At this point, it would list cats and cows. If someone set up a new page which also included [mammal] that would automatically show up in the list *** Aldon

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] My Newbie question
by Rowan Collins 15 Feb '05

15 Feb '05

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:01:05 +0000, Jason Davies <ucgajpd(a)ucl.ac.uk> wrote: > >Is there any way to set up a page so that it lists information that > >people contribute, as well as provides a listing of all the pages that > >link to it. > > not sure I follow you - are Categories going to do the job here? have a > look at those. You add them at the end of the page. To be pedantic, but also kind of helpful, I feel I should point out that adding them at the end of the page is just a *convention* to make editting them easier. The software will recognise them *wherever* they come in the wikitext, but they will always *appear* (in the displayed article) seperately from the main text and *not* wherever in the text you actually typed them. e.g. the text: > A nefle is a [[Category:Fruit]] that ... will add the article to the category fine, but will show up as something like: > A nefle is a that ... > ---------------------------- > Categories: Fruit so instead you might use > A nefle is a [[fruit]] that ... > [[Category:Fruit]] so that the first sentence still makes sense after the category link "disappears" (See my earlier response for a help page that may or may not explain it better than that.) -- Rowan Collins BSc [IMSoP]

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWIki module for Drupal / rename interwiki table?
by Rowan Collins 15 Feb '05

15 Feb '05

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 13:01:47 -0600, Sheldon Rampton <sheldon(a)prwatch.org> wrote: > Hi, all. I've co-written a module for Drupal installations that makes > it easier for Drupal sites to link to Wiki pages. > [...] > One issue this has created, however, is the fact that the name of the > module ("wmfilter") is different from the name of the table > ("interwiki"). This is a bit of a problem in Drupal, whose modular > design is intended to let people add their own functionality to the > software. To avoid namespace collisions, Drupal encourages module > writers to prefix any new tables associated with their module with > the same name as the module itself. > > One possibility for reconciling this dilemma would be to rename > "wmfilter" to "interwiki." Depending on exactly what it is this filter is *for*, that might well be a very good name for it - i.e. if it's a reasonably generic implementation of what was originally called "InterMap" [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?InterMap], "InterWiki" seems to be the commonly used term for such. As an example of an existing non-wiki implementation, I cite Advogato: http://advogato.org/person/raph/diary.html?start=97 http://cvs.ghostscript.com/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/cvs/mod_virgule/mod_virgule/… I must say I'm not sure where "wmfilter" came from - did you mean "mwfilter", as in "MediaWiki filter"? (I expect you know this, but note http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Names - "wm" makes me think "Wikimedia", which is something completely different; but that's probably coincidence to why you called it that...) > [...] > I'm wondering, therefore, if there would be an interest on the part of > MediaWiki developers in renaming the interwiki table in MediaWiki to > something such as "interlinks" or "linkfilter." I may be being a bit conservative about this, but "interwiki" is kind of a standard term in the wikiworld, and has stuck despite very early on being co-opted for more general linkage. More to the point, it seems a rather strange compromise to rewrite part of MediaWiki so that you can rename an external tool to something that matches a new internal name. I note, however, that you say Drupal encourages tables to be *prefixed* appropriately - are you aware that recent versions of MediaWiki have the ability to prefix all table names in an install, to allow them to co-exist on the same mysql server with other projects? If you really really want your module to be named to tie in with MediaWiki, why not call it "mediawiki"; that way, the interwiki table could be called "mediawiki.interwiki", and everyone's happy, and you've even used the prefixing concept as it was probably intended. -- Rowan Collins BSc [IMSoP]

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MediaWIki module for Drupal / rename interwiki table?
by Sheldon Rampton 15 Feb '05

15 Feb '05

Hi, all. I've co-written a module for Drupal installations that makes it easier for Drupal sites to link to Wiki pages. The module is called "wmfilter.module" and can be downloaded at the following URL: http://drupal.org/node/14980 The module uses the same interwiki table as MediaWiki. We did it this way because we want to make it as easy as possible in the future to develop other ways that MediaWiki and Drupal can interoperate. One issue this has created, however, is the fact that the name of the module ("wmfilter") is different from the name of the table ("interwiki"). This is a bit of a problem in Drupal, whose modular design is intended to let people add their own functionality to the software. To avoid namespace collisions, Drupal encourages module writers to prefix any new tables associated with their module with the same name as the module itself. One possibility for reconciling this dilemma would be to rename "wmfilter" to "interwiki." However, this isn't a terribly descriptive name for the module, and in fact the name "interwiki" isn't even terribly descriptive of the way the table is used in MediaWiki itself. The standard MediaWiki installation currently comes with a number of records in the interwiki table that point to non-wiki websites. In practice, "interwiki" has developed into a table of general interlinks rather than simply a table of interwiki links. I'm wondering, therefore, if there would be an interest on the part of MediaWiki developers in renaming the interwiki table in MediaWiki to something such as "interlinks" or "linkfilter." --Sheldon Rampton

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Help for a new mediawiki installation
by Alessandro Ronchi 15 Feb '05

15 Feb '05

I have two question I can't solve by myself (I tried to search on google and mediawiki pages) - How can I change the default page from Wikipedia? - How can I change the default menu's links? Thanks in advance for your work. -- Alessandro Ronchi http://www.aronchi.org http://www.soasi.com

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Google Offers to Host Wikipedia
by John Spikowski 14 Feb '05

14 Feb '05

>From Internet domains to Web browsers, Google seems to have its hands all over the Web these days. But the search giant shows no signs of slowing its reach, and has offered to host the Wikipedia online encyclopedia. Wiki Media Foundation, which runs Wikipedia, says Google has volunteered to supply servers and bandwidth to the project. Wikipedia is an open online encyclopedia that can be edited by anyone who volunteers. The project has become immensely popular on the Web, and is having problems sustaining its growth. Although exact terms of Google's offer have not be publicly disclosed, Wiki Media's board of directors is considering a deal and plans to meet with Google in March. The foundation did say that Google will not insert its text based advertising on Wikipedia.

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latex used for math rendering only?
by Christian Parpart 14 Feb '05

14 Feb '05

Hi, yeah, that's my question ;) Is the latex depencendy only for when you're about to provide latex rendered maths? If not, where can it be used, too? Regards, Christian Parpart. -- Netiquette: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt 17:13:54 up 108 days, 9:43, 3 users, load average: 2.11, 1.62, 1.30

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Re: mediawiki image alignment problem
by Tin Huynh 14 Feb '05

14 Feb '05

Rick & Jan - Thanks for the quick replies. I have tried to position even with the second vertical bar, as you both mentioned but i still get no results. i checked out the source and this is what appears: \\a href="/wiki/index.php/Image:Test.png" class="image" title="test|right|"><img src="/wiki/images/d/d9/Test.png" alt="test|right|" /></a\\ it seems the alignment function isnt recognized at all for some weird reason. could this be a persmissions problem on the php script file or folder? if im able to manually insert the div class "floatright" and get it to work that means that its probably using some php script to call this class from a stylesheet right? im still very confused as to why this is not working, and any more help would be appreciated. -tim >hi all, new user to this list as well as mediawiki. i just recently >installed the stable release of mediawiki (1.3.10). Installation went fine >and mostly everything is working correctly except for one thing. I can not >get images i've uploaded to align either left or right. ive checked the >mediawiki syntax for this a million times and everything ive tried doesnt >work. When im editing a page, i enter: > >[[image:test.png|right]] > >*i read that you can also add another vertical bar at the end of right so >that "right" does not appear as the alt text. > >i've tested this on other mediawiki installations (older versions, on >seperate servers, etc) and it works. On my mediawiki, the image is just >positioned left and the text is cleared right below it. i checked the >source code and "right" appears as the alt text for some reason. The last vertical bar is not optional. Without it the right is interpreted as alt/caption text and NOT as a formating option. You need [[image:test.png|right|]] This might have worked somewhat differently in earlier versions of MediaWiki. It seems to be somewhat "under construction." In fact the article about extended image syntax in the Wikipedia doesn't do alt text/captions exactly as it says it should in all cases. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Extended_image_syntax >p.s. i know that the thumbnailing function is not enabled if GD library is >not installed, but i should still be able to resize my images right? using >this syntax: > >[[image:test.png|left|thumb|50px|]] > >it should just resize using html correct? maybe this problem is connected >to the above one? I'm pretty sure that image resizing, whether for thumbnails or in general, requires either the GD library or the ImageMagick external program. ImageMagick may not work on all platforms. On my 1.3.x installation on Linux, I've got the following lines in my LocalSettings.php file: $wgUseImageResize = true; $wgUseImageMagick = true; $wgImageMagickConvertCommand = "/usr/bin/convert";

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mediawiki image alignment problem
by Tin Huynh 14 Feb '05

14 Feb '05

hi all, new user to this list as well as mediawiki. i just recently installed the stable release of mediawiki (1.3.10). Installation went fine and mostly everything is working correctly except for one thing. I can not get images i've uploaded to align either left or right. ive checked the mediawiki syntax for this a million times and everything ive tried doesnt work. When im editing a page, i enter: [[image:test.png|right]] *i read that you can also add another vertical bar at the end of right so that "right" does not appear as the alt text. i've tested this on other mediawiki installations (older versions, on seperate servers, etc) and it works. On my mediawiki, the image is just positioned left and the text is cleared right below it. i checked the source code and "right" appears as the alt text for some reason. im not really sure if this function is a setting i have to turn on or something. i know that you can just add html (div class="floatright") when editing and it will work, but that is sorta cumbersome for the average users editing this wiki. This is a fresh installtion of mediawiki. I have gone through and adjusted all the suggested security settings. i do not have the GD Library installed. Permissions are set to read only, except for the image folder. any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated! -tim p.s. i know that the thumbnailing function is not enabled if GD library is not installed, but i should still be able to resize my images right? using this syntax: [[image:test.png|left|thumb|50px|]] it should just resize using html correct? maybe this problem is connected to the above one?

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Problem with magic_quotes_runtime
by Bernhard Walle 14 Feb '05

14 Feb '05

Hello, I run MediaWiki 1.4beta6 on a Linux PHP server. The magic_quotes_runtime variable is set to "1" (cannot change this). Is it possible that this causes problemes? ' is shown as \' and " as \". Can somebody confirm this? Will this be fixed in future versions? Thanks! Regards, Bernhard --

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