Wikimediauk-l July 2008

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania London 2010
by Thomas Dalton 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

> I have just phoned Queen Mary, and they only offer a large hall to > seat 280 as a standard. "The Great Hall" has seating for 600 or more, > but at the moment they cannot offer this as a standard feature of a > package (various issues). The can book for August 2010, and they > should be offer on site accommodation for all (a few minutes walk > from the lecture room). But the prices for 2010 can only be finally > fixed in 2009. You need to find out more about this Great Hall - without it, the venue is useless.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to offer the OII in return at this stage
by geni 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

2008/7/23 Tom Holden <thomas.holden(a)gmail.com>: > It's very hard to know our chances of getting this or anything else at the > moment. I imagine though that it will become pretty clear pretty quickly in > the meeting, so ask me again in 8 days. As for how we improve our chances, I > think we just have to present the case as compellingly as possible. I'm > going to go through lists of past speeches to draw up a list of talks which > may have had serious academic content of interest to those at the OII, and > I'm very much open to suggestions of anything else I should be presenting > them. Do they have any museums or collections they would like attention drawn to? We could probably arrange for some commons people to a mass photo and upload session. -- geni

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to offer the OII in return at this stage
by Al Tally 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

2008/7/23 Tom Holden <thomas.holden(a)gmail.com>: > Also did you note that Alexandria got rooms for $6 per person per night... > Yes, but I'd have not paid a penny more... you get what you pay for, basically... -- Al Tally (User:Majorly)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to offer the OII in return at this stage
by Casey Brown 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

2008/7/23 Tom Holden <thomas.holden(a)gmail.com>: > We really do need *significant* funding. Buenos Aries had to raise > $270,000. ... and their venue was provided at no cost. [0] It would also be nice to note that Alexandria got the venue for free as well. [1] [0] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2009/Bids/Buenos_Aires#Conference_… [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Bids/Alexandria#Conference_Ve… -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 --- Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails sent to this address will probably get lost.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to offer the OII in return at this stage
by Ian A. Holton 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

Thomas, it is good to offer incentives, but be cautious of things you can at this time neither personally nor officially guarantee. Especially access to speakers may be difficult to guarantee fully. Ian [[User:Poeloq]] 2008/7/23 Tom Holden <thomas.holden(a)gmail.com>: > For now I've been using this as a task list. > > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2010/Bids/UK/Oxford#Local_sponsors… > > > > Either contact groups in the "Ideas" section and move them into the "being > investigated one" or just add in your ideas. > > > > BTW the OII meeting is confirmed for the 31st at 2PM. If they can > significantly help us financially either directly or through cheap > accommodation, is everyone OK with me offering them the following: > > > > · Access to our speakers for more academic talks. > > · Prominent logos, blurbs etc. Doing our best to get them > mentioned in press coverage. > > · Conference passes for OII members (there aren't that many of > them). > > > > Tom > > > > > > *From:* wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: > wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *joseph seddon > *Sent:* 23 July 2008 00:45 > *To:* wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > *Subject:* [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks > > > > I think its time we created a list of tasks, this should exist both on the > mailing list as it is a relatively quick form of communication for > discussion, and also in a more formal sense on the big page/subpages for > reference. At the moment we are sorting out a venue, we also need to think > about sponsorship soon. Apparently the bidding process is starting earlier > than before, how much earlier i cant be sure. So we need to get as much done > as possible. What else do we need to be thinking about? > > > ------------------------------ > > Win £3000 to spend on whatever you want at Uni! Click here to WIN!<http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719803/direct/01/> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > >

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010
by Oldak Quill 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

2008/7/22 Tom Holden <thomas.holden(a)gmail.com>: > We need a lecture theatre that holds 500, so those main halls wouldn't be > big enough. Given previous years experience, UCL seems the best bet for a > hypothetical London bid. But unless someone's prepared to take the lead on > it it's not going to happen. > > There are several non-location specific tasks that need doing, such as > contacting large tech-savvy companies to try and get sponsorship, so there's > a job for someone if they want it. > > Tom I looked at UCL, but the closest they came in terms of room capacity was 400 ( https://www.ucl.ac.uk/efd/roombooking/all-rooms/ ) There are two massive conference centres in London that I know: * The Royal Horticultural Hall - http://www.horticultural-halls.co.uk/ ** http://www.horticultural-halls.co.uk/venues/lawrence-hall/?capacity - The Lawrence Hall has a maximum capacity of 1000 ** http://www.horticultural-halls.co.uk/venues/lindley-hall/?capacity - The Lindley Hall could just about fit 500 *Westminster Central Hall - http://www.c-h-w.com/roomhire/capacities.html - lists room capacities. Sadly, the largest room has a capacity of 2160 in "theatre mode", and the two other largest rooms have capacities only up to 450 in this mode. In terms of contacting large tech-savvy companies, wouldn't that best be done from a wikimedia.org.uk address? Virgin have shown interest in sponsoring Wikimedia in the past (though that was a bit of a mess). I don't know if a company like IBM would have any interest in sponsoring a Wikimedia event... ( http://www.ibm.com/ibm/ibmgives/ ) Their website suggests they are interested in points of contact between technology and education. -- Oldak Quill (oldakquill(a)gmail.com)

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania London 2010
by Thomas Dalton 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

2008/7/13 Tom Holden <thomas.holden(a)gmail.com>: > Here are the numbers, I'll update the bid page with them now: > > Main Hall: 500 > Assembly Room: 200 > Old Library: 120 > Council Chamber: 105 > Long Room: 70 > Court Room: 43 > St. Aldates Room: 40 > Plowman Room: 30 > Panel Room: 30 > > And then 3 other smaller rooms, and 1 not suitable for presentations. > > So the main hall is big enough (just) and there are probably enough smaller > rooms. Looks good to me. Well done!

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Next London Wikimeet!
by Gordon Joly 23 Jul '08

23 Jul '08

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London_12 LONDON WIKIPEDIA MEETUP NUMBER 12 Date and time: Sunday 10th August -- 1pm Location: Penderel's Oak pub, Holborn WC1 Please add your name to attendees list if you can make it on August 10th. The start time is 1pm for the August meeting. There is no specific finish time. Gordo -- "Think Feynman"///////// http://pobox.com/~gordo/ gordon.joly(a)pobox.com///

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks
by Al Tally 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

2008/7/23 Tom Holden <thomas.holden(a)gmail.com>: > Well do we know what reasons other than cost or "the wrong continent" > have been given for bids failing in the past? > > > > Re: Al, We'll know better where we are with accommodation after I've had > this meeting with the OII director. If I convince him a meeting will then be > arranged with the master of Balliol and we can find out quite how generous > (if at all) they're prepared to be towards us. I don't think it would hurt > to have someone else at the meeting, so if anyone can make it let me know. > > > > Tom > We've only had one serious bid, afaik. That was 2007. We'd had 2005 in Frankfurt, Europe, so I'm assuming that was too soon after a European Wikimania. We'd also just had it in Boston, so I think they were looking for a non-Western bid. I think the other problem was money. You may want to look at the archives of the Wikimania mailing list, or the foundation mailing list at the time of the decision for the 2007 conference. -- Al Tally (User:Majorly)

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Sponsorship
by Businessfirst 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

If there was a presentation (word or powerpoint) for Wikimedia UK, then someone could visit a number of sites such as the Cambridge Science Park, that have business/educational ties and see if we can sign up a number of them for £500 - 1000 each. Basically, if we act like we're entitled to think at that level, we might get a surprise. We could ask for more, but to start with this at least should be feasible. We should be able to get 10 - 20 businesses signing up for that kind of sum. What have we got to offer them as a "starting point"? Can we use this thread to brainstorm whom we might approach. Example criteria would be: - Places with a number of suitable companies (central london, central manchester, university science parks, etc) - Places with a specific interest (education, knowledge, open source, minorities and other groups that would benefit from "self help" technologies such as wikis can provide, places that have been favorable before) - Philanthropical bodies (foundations, charities, individuals) More info: In overview, as a market led approach, we need to brainstorm CATEGORIES of places groups and people that have good odds of interest (go where the prospects are), brainstorm SPECIFIC places groups and people WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES, and when that's done consider what SUPPORTING MATERIAL we might need to approach them and what we will OFFER "why they should want to". To kick-start the 3rd of those, I've attached a draft showing how we might present ourselves to banks and sponsors. It can probably be improved on, or added to, but shouldn't get too long. if someone with Powerpoint skills wants to make a graphic presentation, or someone with technical skills wants to add impressive sounding information, great. It's a targetted document, meaning, it has an aim. The aim is to present the chapter's goals and credibility to people in a way that will make them want to support us, and to put WMUK front centre stage of the work in the UK. In the spirit of the wiki, it's open to be worked on. I'm away the evening, so I can't discuss, but if someone wants to start a second thread for it, go right on! Let the ideas flow... :-) Paul Sinclair businessfirst __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs..yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

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