The next board meeting, and the last of 2009, will be this evening
(Tuesday 29 December 2009) at 8.30-10.30pm GMT. The meeting will
primarily be via Skype, but we'll also be in #wikimedia-uk on IRC.
Everyone is more than welcome to attend the IRC session, and
participate in the discussion there. If you don't have an IRC client,
then you can connect using http://webchat.freenode.net/ .
The agenda is at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetings/2009-12-29/Agenda
Board members + Tango: please post whether you can attend, and your
reports, to the agenda page. My thanks to those that have already
given their attendance and started their reports.
We're still trying to figure out the best way to hold board meetings
so that you all can be involved also; suggestions on how we could go
about this would be greatly appreciated. Note that you can always add
items to the agenda if you want them discussing, and we can also
connect you to the Skype conference for appropriate segments of the
meeting if you want.
See Steve's reply, below, which didn't make it to this list. I agree
with the promotion point - this isn't the place to push unrelated
events, although it's always good to mention them if they are related
(e.g. as in the 5 million Commons files release). Andrew did make a
number of other points as well as this one, though.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Steve Virgin" <steve(a)mediafocusuk.com>
> Date: 29 December 2009 16:57:27 GMT
> To: <charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com>
> Cc: Wikimedia UK Board mailing list <board(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [WMUK Board] [Wikimediauk-l] Press release (Public
> Domain Day)
> Reply-To: Wikimedia UK Board mailing list <board(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
> Charles is quite right that we have been in touch
> He was aware that we needed to run this through the Board Meeting
> tonight as I pointed this out last week
> I think he was aware I might have some reservations (albeit minor)
> about the text so I doubt anyone thought it would be issued
> Any promotion of Britain Loves Wikipedia should be in a section at
> the bottom called 'Editor's Notes' that comes at the end of the
> press release - it should not come in the main body text as this
> will mean more than one single message is being conveyed and this
> will be confusing
> I'd certainly promote it in the Editor's Notes - but nowhere else.
> Or, simply write a new press release all about Britain Loves
> Wikipedia and issue that to secure the same
> I had a few minor and small doubts about the 70 year rule so on
> phrases in the text suggesting 'copyright free on anything' which I
> simply modified to sound less harsh. But our collective Board
> knowledge on the copyright matter would no doubt be of interest
> Hope this helps
> From: "Charles Matthews" <charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:36 PM
> To: "Michael Peel" <email(a)mikepeel.net>
> Cc: <wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>; "Steve Virgin"
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Press release (Public Domain Day)
>> Michael Peel wrote:
>>> In terms of the content of the press release, there still seem to
>>> be some outstanding questions. Andrew posted on the talk page 5
>>> days ago, pointing out a few things, which it would be good to
>>> discuss. The central point is: are we absolutely positive that
>>> the facts are completely accurate? Also, note that the press
>>> release as it stands is lacking a headline and a date.
>> I don't agree with the Talk page comment "release should promote
>> WMUK and its activities, e.g. Britain Loves Wikipedia, as much as
>> possible". My views on press releases are probably known to
>> readers of the list by now. I would go so far as to say that
>> "corporate identity" material is dead weight in getting media
>> attention. To put it another way, promotion through simply
>> contacting the media has to earn its keep.
>> On the issue of handling, I have been in contact with a Board
>> member, and I imagine my views will be represented to the Board.
>> I'll pass on second-guessing the detailed drafting. 70 years is
>> correct for the UK, that much is clear, and _in the press release_
>> nothing else should be brought in.
> Board mailing list
It is with regret that I announce that Paul Williams (Skenmy) is
leaving the WMUK Board for personal reasons.
This obviously leaves a vacancy on the board between now and the next
AGM, which we would like to fill if a suitable candidate can be
found. Who would be interested in joining the Board until the next
AGM (24 April)?
The legal duties and the eligibility criteria for being on the board
are described at:
You would be expected to attend the board meetings online, which
currently take place fortnightly by Skype. You would also participate
in the organization of the various initiatives that are currently
being planned, and the development of future initiatives, as well as
the forthcoming AGM. Whether the role of 'volunteers director' is
kept has not yet been decided; in general however there is a lot of
freedom to focus on what you're interested in, or help out with bits
of everything, rather than being tied to specific areas.
If you are interested, please email the board at
board(a)wikimedia.org.uk . A brief background of yourself would be
useful, as would a description of what you would like to achieve by
being on the Board. If you have any queries, please don't hesitate to
ask me or any of the other current (or past) board members
One of the things that a few people have mentioned as a real positive
about the chapter is the way that decisions are made openly in
consultation with members and supporters.
The home page makes quite a bg deal about this:
As an organisation promoting open knowledge, we also want to be
leaders in transparency regarding our decision making:
* Our constitution puts decision making in the hands of members
* We seek the widest possible membership base
* We are led by a seven person Board of Trustees, elected by the
members at the AGM
* All Board meetings are held in public on the internet. We publish
our Agenda beforehand and minutes afterwards
* We pledge to discuss all major decisions with our supporters
beforehand though our mailing list and our wiki
* We keep supporters informed through our monthly Newsletter which you
can subscribe to here."
Unfortunately with the pressure of too much to do plus some changes
brought in for efficiency reasons, some aspects of these have changed
in the last couple of months:
- Board meetings have moved from IRC to Skype, which we haven't been
able to open to the public or even publish the recordings afterwards
- We haven't been able to publish a newsletter since September
- There is little input to Board agendas or reaction to minutes
- Non-board activity on this email list, the wiki and in chapter
projects hasn't really developed in the way we originally hoped
I would like to ask how people see this who support the chapter but
aren't on the board. Are you hearing enough about what the board is
doing? Are you wanting to hear more? Are you happy with the amount of
input you have to chapter activities or do you want to get more
involved? Generally are you happy with the way the chapter is going?
Do any of these developments above matter to you, and if so, which
ones in particular?
If you do want to get more involved, what's the best way to engage?
Should the board use more, or less of:
- this email list?
- the wiki?
- direct emails to members?
- the monthly newsletter?
- the blog at http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/?
- the facebook group at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5678482133&ref=ts?
- the twitter feed at http://twitter.com/wikimediauk
- anything else?
All feedback and thoughts are welcome!
Well worth doing and well written - many thanks for this. We're getting together quite a list of press contacts and it's the kind of story in a news-light time of the year that could fly well.
When should it be put out? Given that 1 Jan falls on a Friday and the previous Monday is a bank holiday, does Tuesday 29th make sense?
Also coincides with a WMUK board meeting, so if anything needs approving at that level (although I'm not sure it needs to) we can do that as well.
I guess we should add some bits at the end:
- explaining who WMUK
- link into Britain Loves Wikipedia?
Headline? Wikipedia looks forward to Public Domain Day?
----- "Brian McNeil" <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> From: "Brian McNeil" <brian.mcneil(a)wikinewsie.org>
> To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Sent: Monday, 21 December, 2009 17:12:14 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day
> On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 17:08 +0000, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/12/21 Charles Matthews : > > > Draft, then. > > > Worth noting: "It's A Wonderful Life" only became a popular Christmas > movie once it had entered the public domain. So Mr. Ford may be well > worth mentioning - people who read will certainly take the opportunity > to push his works. Send to the more literary publications? I took Charles' draft, put it on the wiki, and did a slight rewrite. David's suggestion is an excellent point to add to a detail I inserted - build the membership. http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Press_releases/Public_domain_day -- Brian McNeil Wikinewsie.org
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January 1st is Public Domain Day. That is the day that all the works
of everyone who died in 1939 enter the public domain. No I'm not the
only one to note this creative commons apparently picks up on it:
The most interesting name I'm aware of this year is Howard Carter who
created a lot of paintings and drawings of Egyptian archaeological
artifacts. I'm trying to put together more names but I was wounder if
it was something a press release could be built around?
Recommendation for an NEC projector below (thanks David). I can't find an NP 300, but we could get a lower spec NP115 for £275:
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
To: "WMUK" <board(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, 16 December, 2009 14:41:14 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal
Subject: [WMUK Board] Fwd: [Internal-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Computer quote
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ilario Valdelli <valdelli(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Internal-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] Computer quote
To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:35 PM, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> What is good for presentations but manageable with a netbook?
What means good?
Good = portable?
Good = reliable?
Good = durable?
Good = efficient?
The small projectors has got a limited lifetime.
Consider also that the 70% of cost is due to the lamp, when the lamp
is broken there is no sense to repair it.
In my case I have chosen the NEC solution:
They are expensive but I have never had problems with them (easy to
implement, reliable and good quality).
After three years the HP is broken, the Benq has having problems of
setup with ATI drivers but NEC is still valid and seems to be bought
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