If you would like to be part of a local bid team for Wikimania 2009, please
reply or add your name to the newly-created bid page on meta  .
If you have any material or notes, contacts, anything that you didn't get to
use or speak about etc in the 2008 bid timeframe please shout now :)
The last two UK Wikimania bids have been for London. This is probably
preferred, but I am throwing it open to you if you have a really good idea,
and preferably you either live there or have good contacts there. If you
think of somewhere but know nobody there, post here, as there may be people
on this list who can help.
As I say London is where it's at as they say but it's not set in stone. We
have more time until bidding than we did for Wikimania 2008 - since I first
posted in late August anyway - so let's get going again.
Forgive me for using this email account. I made one entry on your list and
was overwhelmed by the separate messages (as os usual with elists). I can
only ask that you might have some influence in turning this
Into something more like this. http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/ I am trying
so hard to stay across conversations on different threads, and the
discussion about homosexual rights and a dangerous Alexandria is so
I was reading this > Because, unless they've changed since a couple of
years' ago, the Open
> University hold their London region summer schools there and have the
> place booked out ...
And was wondering why you wouldn't have considered OU as a natural sponsor.
Particularly as their Openlearn http://www.open.ac.uk/openlearn/home.php
initiative is so closely aligned with the aims of the wikimedia foundation.
Ultimately the location for Wikimania is of little concern to the majority
of Wikipedially minded learners. The important thing is how a quiet activist
might be made to feel apart of the wiki story and discover their place in
the communities of global groups from which it's .org is composed.
Is there anywhere where the Wishlists might be compiled. I mean of speakers
and the things Wikimedians might want them to say? Gary, I think I was
reading one of yours for Tim Berners Lee; second the motion. It would be a
nice into to set a global stage. And somewhere between this old fashioned
thread and this http://digitalunion.osu.edu/megaconference/ we have the
tools to share a conference, or 20. OU would be strategic here as their old
relationships with the BBC will naturally question why an interesting
Wikimania wouldn't be broadcast. Or at least narrowcast. Better still,
I'll leave it with you. But just gotta say. You and Mido, working together
with other peers who didn't get the first guernsey this year, would have to
get such a charge. I'm jealous.
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On 09/10/2007, Tom Holden <thomas.holden(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm at Oxford so I could potentially be of some (limited) help if people
> were serious about Oxford. (But I don't have that much time so I'm afraid
> I'm not volunteering to be the sole Oxford coordinator...)
> I'd also point out that choosing Oxford over London on cost grounds is
> probably a false economy. Oxford is very expensive these days. (I'm paying
> £115 a week for my single, non-en-suite room in student accommodation and
> conference guests can expect to pay a premium.)
Ha! I pay a shade over double that for a monthly rent in the suburbs,
but I am on perhaps the most freakishly cheap lease in the county*.
This is probably the biggest problem, and I think perhaps enough to
make it impractical. Oxford is no cheaper than London in practical
terms - and, indeed, may be more expensive over all participants once
you factor in the smaller pool of cheap accommodation to draw on.
> On the other hand, a few years I tried to arrange for Jimmy Wales to come
> and speak at the Oxford Internet Institute which both sides seemed keen on
> at the time, (though for one reason or another it never happened), so
> potentially there might be enough academic interest to get a few things for
Mmm. I'm not sure how much clout there is for the organisers, but in
my experience the conference side is quite separate from the actual
academic "oh, we like those people" side, so unless you rope them in
(The decentralised nature may also be problematic here. Would you need
to cosy up to a college as well as the Internet Institute?)
- Andrew Gray
* I live in continual fear my landlord will hear about this and double it.
If we seriously want to do 2009 ... this is about time to start
working on the bid.
Gary Kirk is hereby tagged "it" as bid chair!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Cary Bass <cbass(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: 9 Oct 2007 17:06
Subject: [Foundation-l] Wikimania 2008 will happen in Alexandria, Egypt
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
<foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Wikimedia Translators
The Jury for Wikimania 2008 bids have met and are pleased to announce
that Wikimania 2008 will be held in Alexandria, Egypt.
The Bids were assessed by a Jury which included community members
representing various geographical areas, and organisers of the previous
conferences. The Jury used 12 criteria to judge the bids, which were
drawn up based on the Jury's previous experiences organising the
conference and with input from a wide range of community concerns.
Alexandria was found to be particularly strong in the areas of
reflecting the Wikimedia Foundation's roots in geo-diversity and
multi-lingualism, of the very exciting nature of the proposed venue
and its local facilities, and of the particularly advanced nature of
the financial planning.
All three Bids were very strong in differing ways, each with stronger
and weaker points. We would like to draw particular attention to the
efforts of the team behind the Atlanta bid, which came in second place
and was particularly commendable in the areas of providing in-facility
accommodation and social space, and for doing great outreach to local
Wikimedians. Their efforts could serve as an example to any team
hoping to get the local community involved. The Cape Town bid was
marked strongly by the Jury for cultural diversity, a particularly
benign local environment, and efforts to secure local recognition and
facilities. We'd especially like to congratulate Cape Town on
providing our very first strong bid from the Southern Hemisphere.
A table of the results is given below. Each member of the jury had up
to 60 points to allocate to the bids in each of the 12 categories,
which they did after a period of discussion and careful deliberation.
Category Alexandria Atlanta Cape Town
Accommodation 251 298 71
Funding 264 224 152
Location 294 154 182
Internet Access 204 263 133
Local Laws 155 253 222
Press 232 235 153
Organizing Team 244 206 163
Rotation 305 55 260
Social Areas 222 258 140
Cost 289 206 125
Venue 323 158 139
Visas 243 109 263
Total 3026 2419 2003
Note that a 13th category, on personal preference, was polled but is
not included as it had no significant effect on the result.
The Jury would like to thank all of those involved in bids, including
those whose bids did not go forward to the final selection, for their
efforts which combined to produce a competitive field.
We strongly encourage all those who bid this year, and those of you
wondering whether your city could have done the same, to consider
bidding for Wikimania 2009, for which the decision will begin very
shortly. See the Wikimania 2009 page on meta for further updates
within the next few days.
We are especially looking forward to the Wikimedia Foundation
collaborating with one of the most famous repositories of knowledge in
the world, and emphasising the newly developing Wikimedia projects in
Africa and the Middle East. We would like to encourage the entire
community to support the Alexandria team over the coming year in
producing an outstanding conference, and look forward to meeting as
many of you as possible there.
On behalf of the Wikimania 2008 bid Jury.
 - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2008/Jury
Sue Gardner and Jan-Bart DeVreede abstained from voting.
 - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania 2008/Judging criteria
 - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2009
James D. Forrister
foundation-l mailing list
On 01/10/2007, Vee <vee.be.me(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/10/2007, James Farrar <james.farrar(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have reported this to the police; they're sending officers to the
> > address given to investigate.
The police just called me back. "It was a young lad's idea of a hoax"
was the expression the officer used to me. Apparently he's been given
a severe talking to.
And I was the only one to have reported it to them.
Thanks to Avi for the tip-off.