On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> I went there:-
>
> ****
>
> The present Board of Directors of Wiki Educational Resources Ltd are:
>
> * Alison M Wheeler (CEO & Chair)
> * Paul Sinclair (CFO) (since 10-02-2008)
> * Arkady Rose (also Company Secretary since 10-02-2008)
> * vacancy (Membership)
> * David Gerard (Communications)
>
> ****
>
> Interesting. I downloaded the information from Companies House today
> (2008-07-25).
>
> Paul Sinclair is not a Director, but James Forrester is (I cannot
> find his resignation and he on Current Appointments) and more to the
> point, Companies House say he remains the Company Secretary, and the
> registered address is James' home address.
>
He most certainly resigned a while ago. Here is something that can
attest to that,
<http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2008-February/001494.html>.
> Arkady Rose is a Director, from 2007-03-08, according to Companies House.
>
> Oh, and the accounts are overdue.
>
Obviously someone forgot to update Companies House... but it doesn't
mean that what Alison is telling you is *wrong* or a /lie/ and nor
does it make this a farce/joke.
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> Sure: in fact one of requirements is the need for area for free
> association, networking and socializing.
Of course, not everyone will want to socialise at the same time and in
the same place - we could easily have multiple such areas if
necessary.
> Can I add to that the following question: why is Paul not a Company Director?
I thought he was... (on an interim basis, at least - he has to stand
down at the next AGM so there can be a proper election, as I
understand it.)
> 1. I *have* chased him up, repeatedly.
> 2. The Board is waiting on the Treasurer; it isn't a direct responsibility
> for the Chair or any other member in this case.
> 3. Paul was someone who 'offered to help' and has the requisite
> appropriate skills.
> 4. All the people involved are unpaid volunteers, indeed we have been
> subsidising the activities of WMUK from our own pockets to date.
Can someone here give me the short rundown on Paul's business
background and/or ties to the Wikipedia community?
jon hammond
Dear Arkady Rose,
Firstly, the last Annual General Meeting of Wikimedia UK was held on
June 23 last year. Since it is now July 7, does the company intend to
hold another AGM in the near future? If so, could you please let me,
and other interested parties (I've CC'ed this to the mailing list),
know when it will be (roughly, if you do not know a precise date yet)?
Also, since it has been impossible to join the company due to the lack
of a bank account, will interested parties be able to join "on the
door" with cash?
Secondly, if possible, could you please send me a copy of the
company's Memorandum and Articles for personal reference?
Thank you for your time.
Yours sincerely,
Thomas Dalton
2008/7/23 joseph seddon <life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk>:
> We need to get hold of delphine and find out what the budget and source of
> money was and is for this years and nexts
> years conferences respectively.
>
Delphine just told me: "I will be issuing a post mortem for Wikimania
2008, with warnings, advice and all by the end of August 2008."
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> Odd. What are the official requirements? They seem to be missing!
>
Those will probably be made known before "official" bidding starts and
around the same time as they select the jury. In the meantime, I'd
follow Al Tally's advice and look at previous years.
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> Bristol/Bath/Durham/Edinburgh would be nice
> locations but I doubt any of them would want to help us financially.
I'm a student at Durham and can make enquiries if people want. I might
be able to get discounted rates, but getting anything for free is
unlikely (always worth a shot, though). The main problem is transport,
though - it's about 4 hours on the train from London, there are
international airports nearer, but they're pretty small. There are
suitable lecture theatres and accommodation, and it's a beautiful
city. I only have one more year there, though, so I wouldn't actually
be there in summer 2010 (unless I stay there for a PhD).
2008/7/24 Tom Holden <thomas.holden(a)gmail.com>:
> I'm not sure this is the world's best idea. Companies are going to be
> reticent to hand over cheques to us based on the promise that we'll be a
> charity by the time the cheque is cashed, and without involving lawyers I'm
> not sure we could get any other kind of promise of future money that would
> satisfy HMRC/the CC.
Registering with HMRC (has that bit been done yet, by the way?) might
be enough to convince them - as I understand it, it's enough to make
their donations tax deductible, which is likely to their main concern.
I sent an email to the list yesterday, but it's stuck in moderation till Saturday (attachment >10 K size). Till then, here's the text email without the attachment. Anyone wanting the attachment sent off-list can email me with subject "attachment please".
Paul Sinclair
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Sent: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008 5:47:48 PM
Subject: Sponsorship
If there was a presentation (word or powerpoint) for Wikimedia UK, then someone could visit a number of sites such as the Cambridge Science Park, that have business/educational ties and see if we can sign up a number of them for £500 - 1000 each. Basically, if we act like we're entitled to think at that level, we might get a surprise. We could ask for more, but to start with this at least should be feasible. We should be able to get 10 - 20 businesses signing up for that kind of sum. What have we got to offer them as a "starting point"?
Can we use this thread to brainstorm whom we might approach. Example criteria would be:
- Places with a number of suitable companies (central london, central manchester, university science parks, etc)
- Places with a specific interest (education, knowledge, open source, minorities and other groups that would benefit from "self help" technologies such as wikis can provide, places that have been favorable before)
- Philanthropical bodies (foundations, charities, individuals)
More info:
In overview, as a market led approach, we need to brainstorm CATEGORIES of places groups and people that have good odds of interest (go where the prospects are), brainstorm
SPECIFIC places groups and people WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES, and when
that's done consider what SUPPORTING MATERIAL we might need to approach
them and what we will OFFER "why they should want to".
To kick-start the 3rd of those, I've attached a draft [will be sent hopefully Saturday, due to moderation] showing how we might present ourselves to banks and sponsors. It can probably be improved on, or added to, but shouldn't get too long. if someone with Powerpoint skills wants to make a graphic presentation, or someone with technical skills wants to add impressive sounding information, great. It's a targetted document, meaning, it has an aim. The aim is to present the chapter's goals and credibility to people in a way that will make them want to support us, and to put WMUK front centre stage of the work in the UK. In the spirit of the wiki, it's open to be worked on. I'm away the evening, so I can't discuss, but if someone wants to start a second thread for it, go right on!
Let the ideas flow... :-)
Paul Sinclair
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Paul, I'm unable to find any record of a Businessfirst associated with your
name. Your Yahoo profile contains no information, and appears to have been
created only today. Could you point us to a website, or name one of the
companies which you've served in a financial capacity?
jon hammond