HI all, Because things are still a bit fresh in my mind, I tried to see how Indian languages performed both on windows box as well as on GNU/Linux.
This mail would talk only about windows xp while another mail would give the issues in GNU/Linux.
While I can't give screenshots atm, this is on a friend's system and he has the following browsers on the system :-
a. Mozilla Firefox 4.0b7 (beta) b. Chrome 8.0 (stable) c. Opera 11 (newly released)
We went through the whole she-bang at http://bit.ly/fCxKrf , also looked at the uniscribe stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniscribe saw the discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Uniscribe#Uniscribe_version_in_SIL_FieldWo...
Also looked at http://www.catch22.net/tuts/neatpad/11
and were still scratching our heads as to why we weren't able to see Devanagri in Google Chrome.
We installed the font Rachana.
Then we rebooted and in Firefox it renders but Google Chrome not getting anything.
The USP.dll is at version 1.420.2600.2180 on my friend's system. This was done using the steps outlined at
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=ComplexRomanFontFAQ#unis...
and looking at the version numbers at
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Uniscri...
Looking for answers - it was fun.
Have you checked this issue with the active users of Hindi wikipedia or other wikis that use Devanagri script? And are you able to reproduce this issue in another system?
Google chrome is displaying Devanagri without any issues in my system (WindowsXP SP2 + Google chrome 8.0).
The problem might be there only in your friend's system. Try this solution: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-...
Shiju
2010/12/17 shirish शिरीष shirishag75@gmail.com
HI all, Because things are still a bit fresh in my mind, I tried to see how Indian languages performed both on windows box as well as on GNU/Linux.
This mail would talk only about windows xp while another mail would give the issues in GNU/Linux.
While I can't give screenshots atm, this is on a friend's system and he has the following browsers on the system :-
a. Mozilla Firefox 4.0b7 (beta) b. Chrome 8.0 (stable) c. Opera 11 (newly released)
We went through the whole she-bang at http://bit.ly/fCxKrf , also looked at the uniscribe stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniscribe saw the discussion at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Uniscribe#Uniscribe_version_in_SIL_FieldWo...
Also looked at http://www.catch22.net/tuts/neatpad/11
and were still scratching our heads as to why we weren't able to see Devanagri in Google Chrome.
We installed the font Rachana.
Then we rebooted and in Firefox it renders but Google Chrome not getting anything.
The USP.dll is at version 1.420.2600.2180 on my friend's system. This was done using the steps outlined at
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=ComplexRomanFontFAQ#unis...
and looking at the version numbers at
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Uniscri...
Looking for answers - it was fun.
Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवालMy quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:06, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.com wrote:
Have you checked this issue with the active users of Hindi wikipedia or other wikis that use Devanagri script? And are you able to reproduce this issue in another system?
Nope.
Google chrome is displaying Devanagri without any issues in my system (WindowsXP SP2 + Google chrome 8.0).
Cool.
The problem might be there only in your friend's system. Try this solution: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-...
Didn't I say we did that, anyways we did that as well and restarted the system, then put the fonts and tried everything else. Perhaps updating/upgrading the USP.dll to version 1.6 might do some good, don't know though where to get one which would be good for XPSP2.
Oh well,
Shiju
<snipped for brevity>
Excuse me if you've tried this already, but check whether the encoding is not Western or something. UTF-8 or, in the case of many sites, user-defined encoding works just fine. Please check http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95290 for more info.
I'm not on Windows now, and hence, unable to go through the above process.
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
----- Original Message ----
From: shirish शिरीष shirishag75@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 9:42:08 AM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Looking for Devanagri help - windows this time .
HI all, Because things are still a bit fresh in my mind, I tried to see how Indian languages performed both on windows box as well as on GNU/Linux.
This mail would talk only about windows xp while another mail would give the issues in GNU/Linux.
While I can't give screenshots atm, this is on a friend's system and he has the following browsers on the system :-
a. Mozilla Firefox 4.0b7 (beta) b. Chrome 8.0 (stable) c. Opera 11 (newly released)
We went through the whole she-bang at http://bit.ly/fCxKrf , also looked at the uniscribe stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniscribe saw the discussion at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Uniscribe#Uniscribe_version_in_SIL_FieldWo...
Also looked at http://www.catch22.net/tuts/neatpad/11
and were still scratching our heads as to why we weren't able to see Devanagri in Google Chrome.
We installed the font Rachana.
Then we rebooted and in Firefox it renders but Google Chrome not getting anything.
The USP.dll is at version 1.420.2600.2180 on my friend's system. This was done using the steps outlined at
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=ComplexRomanFontFAQ#unis... e
and looking at the version numbers at
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Uniscri... s
Looking for answers - it was fun.
Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवालMy quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:36, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse@yahoo.com wrote:
Excuse me if you've tried this already, but check whether the encoding is not Western or something. UTF-8 or, in the case of many sites, user-defined encoding works just fine. Please check http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95290 for more info.
I didn't get what you said .
Shouldn't it be UTF-8 rather than Western ? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/UTF-8
It is set to UTF-8 .
I'm not on Windows now, and hence, unable to go through the above process.
That's not the point. Neither am I most of the time, Its just that if we need to have some more people on regional language wikipedias there should be an easy way to do that.
If somebody like me who has little idea about things to try and does stuff, has to go through hoops in order to get it right , then normal (read people who have no idea or interest in tweaking or trying out things) are simply left in the cold.
I am going to be trying now on GNU/Linux as well as I did see some inconsistencies on my system as well. The Windows system will be with me overnight so if any more experiments have to be done, can be done as well.
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
Excuse me if you've tried this already, but check whether the encoding is
not
Western or something. UTF-8 or, in the case of many sites, user-defined
encoding
works just fine. Please check http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95290 for more
info.
I didn't get what you said .
I should've been clearer. I wanted it to be set to utf-8 (if it is something else). For some sites (which specify the encoding or fonts in HTML), you can try setting "user-defined".
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
----- Original Message ----
From: shirish शिरीष shirishag75@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 11:59:14 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Looking for Devanagri help - windows this time .
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:36, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse@yahoo.com wrote:
Excuse me if you've tried this already, but check whether the encoding is
not
Western or something. UTF-8 or, in the case of many sites, user-defined
encoding
works just fine. Please check http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95290 for more
info.
I didn't get what you said .
Shouldn't it be UTF-8 rather than Western ? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/UTF-8
It is set to UTF-8 .
I'm not on Windows now, and hence, unable to go through the above process.
That's not the point. Neither am I most of the time, Its just that if we need to have some more people on regional language wikipedias there should be an easy way to do that.
If somebody like me who has little idea about things to try and does stuff, has to go through hoops in order to get it right , then normal (read people who have no idea or interest in tweaking or trying out things) are simply left in the cold.
I am going to be trying now on GNU/Linux as well as I did see some inconsistencies on my system as well. The Windows system will be with me overnight so if any more experiments have to be done, can be done as well.
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
for
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
-- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com 065C 6D79 A68C E7EA 52B3 8D70 950D 53FB 729A 8B17
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Sundar, this is not a UTF-8 or other encoding related problem. In fact, the problem Shirish mentions is a well known problem with Chrome. We have had many people complain about this for Bengali unicode websites.
Some people mentioned that using the following add-on solves the problem: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/iicdbaakmbgjjfjjfnkbiiglclmhopnf
I myself haven't faced the problem ... but just want to let Shirish know that this is not an uncommon one.
Ragib
-- Ragib Hasan, Ph.D NSF Computing Innovation Fellow and Assistant Research Scientist
Dept of Computer Science Johns Hopkins University 3400 N Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218
Website: http://www.ragibhasan.com
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 2:34 AM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse@yahoo.com wrote:
Excuse me if you've tried this already, but check whether the encoding is
not
Western or something. UTF-8 or, in the case of many sites, user-defined
encoding
works just fine. Please check http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95290 for more
info.
I didn't get what you said .
I should've been clearer. I wanted it to be set to utf-8 (if it is something else). For some sites (which specify the encoding or fonts in HTML), you can try setting "user-defined".
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
----- Original Message ----
From: shirish शिरीष shirishag75@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Fri, December 17, 2010 11:59:14 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Looking for Devanagri help - windows this time .
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:36, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse@yahoo.com wrote:
Excuse me if you've tried this already, but check whether the encoding is
not
Western or something. UTF-8 or, in the case of many sites, user-defined
encoding
works just fine. Please check http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95290 for more
info.
I didn't get what you said .
Shouldn't it be UTF-8 rather than Western ? https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/UTF-8
It is set to UTF-8 .
I'm not on Windows now, and hence, unable to go through the above process.
That's not the point. Neither am I most of the time, Its just that if we need to have some more people on regional language wikipedias there should be an easy way to do that.
If somebody like me who has little idea about things to try and does stuff, has to go through hoops in order to get it right , then normal (read people who have no idea or interest in tweaking or trying out things) are simply left in the cold.
I am going to be trying now on GNU/Linux as well as I did see some inconsistencies on my system as well. The Windows system will be with me overnight so if any more experiments have to be done, can be done as well.
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
for
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
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