On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur <noopur.raval(a)gmail.com> wrote: kept got It was clearly not your fault. You are a new user and I should have migrated these files to the regular categories. I am now removing [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] and replacing with it [[Category:Ahmedabad]] and [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]]. All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. I'm no expert on Commons categorization, but there are a bunch of helpful power users available on #wikipedia-en and #wikimedia-commons who can help you out with that. We decided to go with [[Category:Ahmedabad 1]] instead of [[Category:Wikipedia takes Ahmedabad 1]] because we assumed that would make it easier for the users to add these categories easily. make Indeed. A few good images made it to the articles, while a couple of images inspired creation of articles around important monuments. See [[Hutheesing Jain Temple]] (and thanks Srikeit for that). are Yes, indeed. Thanks, anirudh _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Who asked you that and why? You can add as much categories as you see fit, as long as they aren't redundant (Like add the categories "Cakes" and "Bithday cakes" to the same image). I would like the message when someone asked you that _____ * * *[image: Inline images 1]* *Béria Lima* * * * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.* *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>** * ** <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* On 13 March 2012 14:52, Noopur &lt;noopur.raval(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

All help is welcome, these two categories are a must, you can add further categories if they already exist or if there is a justifiable reason to create a new one you can create those and add the cat to these files. Though, I would suggest we all refrain from adding too many categories. I was asked on Commons not to add more than 1-2 categories. On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Anirudh Bhati &lt;anirudhsbh(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this:

1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.

2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes.

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Hey Noopur, If I sounded accusing, I apologize for that. I was going to do this categorization work and saw this mail here. And Anirudh, I'm on it, I'll add/create proper categories to the images. other events wrote: We kept was really got up. to make I/We are https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am guilty as charged. We kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us really got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up. There are several reasons for this: 1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there. 2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are no one to judge whose image stays or goes. 3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been contemplating on things: How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items? Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware or don't know how to)? Do let me know what you guys think! Regards Noopur On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar &lt;konarak.11(a)live.com&gt;wrote;wrote: -- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690 _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 16:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Backend work is key for any photo / GLAM event Using Hisham's words, "its not sexy stuff" :P. Its not about uploading 1000's of images, but the real value is had only when they are used on relevant pages. At the very least the file should have proper meta data so that some day some one will find them useful. 2 Things are important when it comes to Photo events from the perspective of Wikipedia. 1. Usage :- Efforts must be made to use as many uploaded files as possible in the articles. Yes, we can only tell others to upload the file to commons, asking someone who is attending first photo walk / uploading to commons for the first time to also add it on article may be little too much. So Wikipedians must take onus in ensuring media uploaded is being used and not unused. Most of us fall for numbers which are visible at the outset and feel happy about these kind of events.I would say Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 1 which added only 89 files is successful than Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2 which added 628 files after I check the usage stats[1]. You can also do an audit for the event you organized / participated. The numbers are abysmally low for all, which in some sense means the effectiveness of these events in terms of tangible value to Wiki Projects are lesser (Of course there are other benefits, like networking, community socializing etc etc) If on goes by numbers visible at outset, TamilWiki Media Contest might be most successful of all hunts with 15k files. It even fares well usage stats with 51%, but if one goes little deeper the actual usage that was added manually(Wiktionary auto adds pronunciation files, so excluding those) its just around 20% (which is great for the kind of numbers, but still). Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai is probably most successful event with 87% usage, but jokes apart Malayalam_loves_Wikimedia_event_-_2011_April has done well to get 28% (with 2157 images). [It is bound to be high, since the ratio of Wikipedians : Newbies is high in Malayalam projects generally] Of Course all these photo hunts will have same images, so its not possible to get to 100%, but it should be atleast 40% for it to call a decent success. 2. Naming and meta data :- A. Categorize properly. (or Fix it) B. English Description (or Add it) C. Get the naming right. (or Fix it) 3 things that we see as leanings from Tamil media contest. Categorizing is almost done with very few left uncategorized. The result of which(categorization) is visible here when a Norwegian wikipedian uses it[3] :) We do plan to fix 2 and 3 for large number of files over course of next few months, any help welcome :) Commons folks can give more tips here. TWMC report will have a detailed section on learnings / best practices. On a another note, I wonder why no one posted this to the list, but there has been Marathi Photothon and some 1300+ media files were uploaded[4], which is great, but just that they chose not to use commons and use the local wiki instead (bad idea, some Norwegian wikipedian cant use those :( ) There were some wonderful shots of NH4 as well as some copyvios which I found in a quick glance. Ideally only fair use images must be uploaded to local wiki's and CC-BY-SA files are best uploaded to commons since projects across wikimedia universe can use it. Thanks for reading through. [1] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php [2] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photo_scavenger_hunts_in_India [3] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Natkeeran#Found_a_picture_thanks_to_… [4] http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:फोटोथोन_-_२०१२ -- Regards Srikanth.L _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l