The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named, unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took in the photothon never get realised.

The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50 good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting for Godot]]".

Warm regards,

Ashwin Baindur
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 16:47, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
what amount of Back end work was done

Backend work is key for any photo / GLAM event Using Hisham's words, "its not sexy stuff" :P. Its not about uploading 1000's of images, but the real value is had only when they are used on relevant pages. At the very least the file should have proper meta data so that some day some one will find them useful.

2 Things are important when it comes to Photo events from the perspective of Wikipedia.

1. Usage :-

Efforts must be made to use as many uploaded files as possible in the articles. Yes, we can only tell others to upload the file to commons, asking someone who is attending first photo walk / uploading to commons for the first time to also add it on article may be little too much. So Wikipedians must take onus in ensuring media uploaded is being used and not unused. 

Most of us fall for numbers which are visible at the outset and feel happy about these kind of events.I would say Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 1 which added only 89 files is successful than Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2 which added 628 files after I check the usage stats[1]. You can also do an audit for the event you organized / participated. The numbers are abysmally low for all, which in some sense means the effectiveness of these events in terms of tangible value to Wiki Projects are lesser (Of course there are other benefits, like networking, community socializing etc etc) 

If on goes by numbers visible at outset, TamilWiki Media Contest might be most successful of all hunts with 15k files. It even fares well usage stats with 51%, but if one goes little deeper the actual usage that was added manually(Wiktionary auto adds pronunciation files, so excluding those) its just around 20% (which is great for the kind of numbers, but still).  Wikipedia_Takes_Chennai is probably most successful event with 87% usage, but jokes apart  Malayalam_loves_Wikimedia_event_-_2011_April has done well to get 28% (with 2157 images). [It is bound to be high, since the ratio of Wikipedians : Newbies is high in Malayalam projects generally]

Of Course all these photo hunts will have same images, so its not possible to get to 100%, but it should be atleast 40% for it to call a decent success.

2. Naming and meta data :-

A. Categorize properly. (or Fix it)
B. English Description (or Add it)
C. Get the naming right. (or Fix it)

3 things that we see as leanings from Tamil media contest. Categorizing is almost done with very few left uncategorized. The result of which(categorization) is visible here when a Norwegian wikipedian uses it[3] :) We do plan to fix 2 and 3 for large number of files over course of next few months, any help welcome :)

Commons folks can give more tips here. TWMC report will have a detailed section on learnings / best practices.

On a another note, I wonder why no one posted this to the list, but there has been Marathi Photothon and some 1300+ media files were uploaded[4], which is great, but just that they chose not to use commons and use the local wiki instead (bad idea, some Norwegian wikipedian cant use those :( ) There were some wonderful shots of NH4 as well as some copyvios which I found in a quick glance. Ideally only fair use images must be uploaded to local wiki's and CC-BY-SA files are best uploaded to commons since projects across wikimedia universe can use it.

Thanks for reading through.

[1] http://toolserver.org/~magnus/glamorous.php 
[2] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photo_scavenger_hunts_in_India  
[3] http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Natkeeran#Found_a_picture_thanks_to_the_competition 
[4] http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:फोटोथोन_-_२०१२

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Regards
Srikanth.L

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