Bala, that is great news indeed. 8K utilisations! Magnificient.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Bala Jeyaraman <sodabottle(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Ashwin,
Thanks for the suggestions. But the contest deliberately kept the entry
barriers low - the contest was for the uploads alone. So we are not
considering any additional behaviour (categorising, clear descriptions,
usage suggestions) for the prizes.
Too add to Srikanth L's points on the tamil wiki media contest, these are
some of the preliminary lessons learnt (the official report will carry the
complete list):
1) The commons admins/maintenance activity oriented users are even more
overworked than en wiki. If we are bringing files there through our
activities, we carry the responsibility to not to overburden them. We
realised this and have formed a team from ta wiki, which is doing the
categorising and adding descriptions. (This team just coalesced on its own,
without any conscious effort on the organisers part and is doing well aided
by commons regulars).[1] Two of us have applied for and got file mover
rights and two more have obtained AWB rights for doing cleanup.
Categorisation is about 90 percent complete now.
We plan to finish the clean up (copyvio tagging / rotating/ cropping /
description / categorising/ watermark removal) for all the files that were
uploaded as part of the after contest efforts.
The priority for us is 1)eliminating copyvio 2)clear
filenames/descriptions 3)rotations 4)categorisaton
And do the categorisation using people who are familiar with it in your
own wikis (to avoid redundancy and errors like Beria points out). Dont do
categorisation drives by people who aren't familiar with how and why
categorising should be done.
2) Let contestants know where the images go and what they are used for.
This will earn our wikis more active users. We managed to do this for part
of the contestants - couldnt reach them all. But to my knowledge, ta wiki
has gained atleast half a dozen new users who are using their files and
some are even writing new articles for using their entries. Once they
became involved, they are involving themselves in further activities in
commons too.
3) Of the 15k odd files uploaded as part of the contest 8k are being used
in various wiki projects and counting multiple usage, across all wikis
there are a total of 11k file usage instances.
4) Taking cue from WLM Europe, we are planning a followup message on all
uploaders talk pages (and email if their email facility is enabled)
thanking them and telling them of furthur activities they can take part of.
==Links==
1)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&…
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Noopur <noopur.raval(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Just to add to what Konarak and Ashwin said, I am
guilty as charged. We
kept the Category:Ahmedabad_1 to avoid flooding the popular category. It
was decided to serve as the ''maintenance category'' but none of us
really
got around to transferring images to the Ahmedabad category or cleaning up.
There are several reasons for this:
1) People started using images from Ahmedabad_1 soon after the event to
make Ahmedabad articles. So, the attention was diverted there.
2) Personally, I was unclear as to whether all these images had to be
migrated because of course some are repetitive and redundant. But, I/We are
no one to judge whose image stays or goes.
3) Since then and since the Tamil Wikimedia contest I have been
contemplating on things:
How can we minimize and optimize image uploads? Can we set parameters in
the contest format so that everyone can contribute but its more diverse in
terms of results? Maybe we should generate a more exhaustive list of items?
Also, are there guidelines for maintenance that we can make (5-7 points) so
that the organizers can follow that up too (just in case they aren't aware
or don't know how to)?
Do let me know what you guys think!
Regards
Noopur
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Konarak Ratnakar <konarak.11(a)live.com>wrote;wrote:
Agreed, I wasn't involved in editing until
the Ahmedabad photowalk
happened, else I'd have helped.
I suggest we should segregate the photos in sub categories, while
keeping track of those identical images that should be deleted.
Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 20:09:10 +0530
From: ashwin.baindur(a)gmail.com
To: wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Lesson from the past: Photowalks and
other events
Yes, Konark. But I do not want to point figures to one event. In my view
all events are culprits.
Imagine the problem of processing 15K images of the Tamil contest - I
shudder to think!
Suggestion : No image should be considered eligible for competition till
it is uploaded with :
* proper description.
* suggested/recommended article for image use or for creation.
* proper categorisation in Commons.
Have volunteers available to help photographers. The photothon should
end in an uploading function where volunteers help in these aspects.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Konarak Ratnakar <konarak.11(a)live.com>wrote;wrote:
The question just got asked when I was about to ask it.
The problem is that the organisers end their activities with the upload
of hundreds of images. The cleanup is expected to be done by un-named,
unknown others. The encyclopedic value of the images that the people took
in the photothon never get realised.
The organisers of any photothon must realise that the photothon should
end only after the Juice is squeezed out of each image. Better to have 50
good images, catalogued and embellishing articles than thousands "[[waiting
for Godot]]".
Take a look at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ahmedabad_1 you're
talking about something like this, right Ashwin?
Konarak Ratnakar | kondi
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