Abhijith,
I'm sorry. I was under the impression that someone else had already
posted about new grant opportunities to this list back when the IEG
opened for applications; it did get announced in the monthly WMF blog
post, wikimedia-l, the Wikipedia Signpost, and similar places. So I
must have filed something in the wrong place in my memory. :( I apologize.
So let me spread the word now about some other upcoming deadlines:
The scholarship deadline for Wikimania 2013 (Hong Kong, 7-11 August) is
in one week: 22 February 2013 23:59 UTC
<https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships>. The talk
proposal deadline is 30 April
<https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions>.
I also want to draw your attention to Open Source Bridge, Allied Media
Conference, and the Grace Hopper Celebration of Women in Computing.
These are conferences that are interested in empowering everyone, using
technology, and have a focus on diversity and social justice. If you
lead a session at one of these conferences, you are eligible to apply
for Wikimedia Foundation's Participation Support subsidies for travel
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:Support>. Last year, the
open source and Wikipedia sessions at Grace Hopper and Open Source
Bridge were very well-attended.
Allied Media Conference: 20-23 June, Detroit, Michigan, USA. Call for
proposals deadline: 8 March.
http://alliedmedia.org/news/2013/02/01/its-time-propose-session-amc2013-rea…
Open Source Bridge: 18-21 June, Portland, Oregon, USA. Call for
proposals deadline: 9 March.
http://opensourcebridge.org/blog/2013/01/2013-call-for-proposals-now-open/
Grace Hopper: 2-5 October, Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. Call for
proposals deadline: 15 March.
http://gracehopper.org/2013/participate/call-for-participation/
Go ahead and submit stuff! And remember, it's okay to submit multiple
proposals per conference.
MediaWiki is going to apply to participate in Google Summer of Code
again this year as a mentoring organization. Students aiming to
participate should look at this timeline:
https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 and remember
that their applications will be due on 3 May. In GSoC, college and
graduate students work on open source projects remotely, mentored by
skilled developers. Students who successfully complete the program
receive USD5000 in total.
And finally, if you're interested in attending AdaCamp in San Francisco
8-9 June 2013 (to work on supporting women in open technology and open
culture), please fill out
http://adainitiative.org/2013/01/interested-in-attending-an-adacamp-in-san-…
and indicate whether you would need travel assistance. "...this is not a
full application to attend AdaCamp San Francisco, just a way to gauge
interest. We will contact you with application details when applications
open."
Please feel free to forward!
--
Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering Community Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:29:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Abhijith Jayanthi <abhijithsince1986(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Individual Engagement Grant: deadline
> for current round, 15 Feb
>
> Hi,
>
> I sense we will have to make announcements a tad bit earlier - so that we see sensible, fully mature proposals.
>
> regards
> Abhijith
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sumana Harihareswara <sumanah(a)wikimedia.org>
> To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Cc:
> Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013 3:51 AM
> Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Individual Engagement Grant: deadline for current round, 15 Feb
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-applying
>
> "Individual Engagement Grants support Wikimedians to complete projects
> that benefit the Wikimedia movement, lead to online impact, or otherwise
> serve our mission, community, and strategic priorities.
>
> "We fund individuals or small teams to build, organize, pilot, create,
> improve, research or facilitate something that enhances the work of
> Wikimedia's volunteers and helps us achieve our vision of a world in
> which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all
> knowledge."
>
> The deadline for the current round is Feb 15 24:00 UTC, which is about
> 26 hours from when I send this. Proposals for the next round will open
> in August.
>
> Please also consider helping discuss current proposals between now and
> 22 February: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-reviewing
>
> "Open discussion and evaluation of proposals is intended to encourage
> diversity and innovation in the grants made, by bringing multiple
> perspectives to the selection process. Funding limits the amount of
> Individual Engagement Grants we are able to make in each round, and
> proposals are carefully evaluated and selected according to
> pre-determined criteria
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-criteria>."
>
> Hope this is of interest!
>
> -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia
> Foundation _______________________________________________
> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Correction: by Dravidian language in Pakistan I suppose you meant Brahui,
which has a couple of million speakers. Doesn't appear to be much writing
in the language though. We will have to find out more.
And one more comment on your suggestion about using 'Indic-Dravidian': do
remember that we have several languages in the north-east which are part of
neither of these groupings, since they are from the Tibeto-Burman family of
languages! This is what I meant by the problem of using philological
classifications and terminology.
TN
On 13 February 2013 18:38, Tejaswini Niranjana <teju(a)cscs.res.in> wrote:
> Hi Niraj,
> Thanks for engaging with this difficult question. I think we may have to
> look at sizeable populations speaking a certain language while deciding how
> to classify where it is spoken. I was surprised to see your remark that
> Dravidian languages are spoken in Pakistan. I was not aware of this fact,
> and would like to know if it is the odd speaker who happens to live or work
> there, or there are good-sized populations speaking Kannada or Telugu for
> example.
>
> As for your suggestion about a combination name like Indic-Dravidian, that
> still falls into the philological problems that using 'Indic' alone
> does,and doesn't necessarily make the term more inclusive.
>
> So I think we will have to keep discussing this issue for some more time!
>
> Tejaswini
>
>
> On 11 February 2013 13:59, Niraj Suryawanshi <niraj.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Mam,
>>
>> I understand & appreciate the depth of thought process and inputs put
>> behind
>> this question about use of words "*Indian*" or "*Indic*". I'm very much
>> convinced since all the languages we are considering belong to different
>> classes and categories, geographically and origin wise too, and needs to
>> be
>> labeled under a common name!
>>
>> But if we consider the label Indian languages, which specifies the origin
>> and use of the same in India, there are many languages which are
>> predominantly used not only in India but also in the other surrounding
>> counties eg. Bangla (Indic Language, Indo-Aryan) which is used in India,
>> Bangladesh & Burma.
>> And many other Dravidian Languages which are thought to be specifically
>> South Indian languages are used in neighboring eastern countries like
>> Pakistan too.
>>
>> This question will arise every time when we have to specify "Indian
>> Language" or "Indic Languages" for any given reason.
>>
>> How about the combination of names of both different language families so
>> that the language set wont be distributed with respect to the current
>> territorial boundaries but with regards to their origin and a proper
>> classification depending upon the origin/birth. viz "*Indic - Dravidian
>> Languages*"
>>
>> This was my personal view over the query, you can always correct me if I'm
>> misleading.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Regards & Thanks,
>>
>> Niraj Suryawanshi
>> on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
>> +91 814 992 0120 | niraj.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Indian-Languages-question-tp4996015p499602…
>> Sent from the WikiMedia India mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
> Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
> (HEIRA)
> Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
> Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
> Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
> of Science (CCS-IISc)
>
> t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
>
> f: 91-80-26730722
> http://heira.in
> www.cscs.res.in
>
--
Tejaswini Niranjana, PhD
Lead Researcher - Higher Education Innovation and Research Applications
(HEIRA)
Senior Fellow - Centre for the Study of Culture and Society (CSCS)
Visiting Professor - Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS)
Visiting Faculty - Centre for Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute
of Science (CCS-IISc)
t: 91-80-26730476, 26730967, 26730268
f: 91-80-26730722
http://heira.inwww.cscs.res.in
Dear all,
*message attached below*
FYI. I do recollect there
being a thread where many of us gave suggestions on what videos we
should have, especially for outreach in Indian languages. It would be
great if we could propose them here and someone can pick them up to make
a video.
Best,
Noopur
-------- Original Message --------
SUBJECT:
[Wmfcc-l] Professional Video Production & Village Pump
Proposal
DATE:
Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:35:25 -0800
FROM:
Victor
Grigas
TO:
Communications Committee
REPLY-TO:
Communications Committee
Hello everyone on ComCom,
Last year (2012)
along with the fundraising team and a few contractors we interviewed 100
Wikipedians at Wikimania which resulted in an awareness campaign
launched in US, UK, NZ, AU & CA:
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You_All
[1]
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You_Main [2]
Almost all
the feedback was positive, and we learned alot. (thank you again to
those on this list who were in it)
This year (2013) I'm aiming to make
(and help others to make) a 2 minute video that hopefully 'goes viral'
and makes the world laugh, cry and _learn all about Wikipedia_. In order
to do that I'm going to be engaging and collaborating with professional
producers from all around the world and producing many videos that cover
a wide range of content and style.
Here is an example:
Right now we
have a small test running for the Valentine's Day holiday which went out
in an email to several thousand U.S.-only donors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLHZUIVdPU0 [3]
Sadly, we have only so
much of a budget to work with. Videos can be expensive to produce and I
am but one lone dude and I don't scale.
Solution!:
So I'm looking for
professional film/video/creative volunteers to help:
_If you know any
video agencies or individual producers, camera operators, motion
graphics artists, et cetera who like Wikipedia enough to be willing to
donate their services to promote and inform the world about Wikipedia,
please connect me with them._
Also, since Wikipedia is open and
collaborative, I thought that video collaboration should also be left
open to the community, so I just wrote this on the Village Pump Idea
Lab:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Community-Dr…
[4]
It is a proposal to create a forum where anyone can propose ideas
that should be made into video. Those ideas can be polished and then a
producer who is willing to volunteer (Wikipedian or otherwise) can read
through scripts and produce the content they want to.
This forum would
serve video production on Wikipedia generally, not just for the work
that i'm doing.
Thanks for reading & I'd be happy to know your
thoughts.
Victor --
VICTOR GRIGAS
Storyteller [5]
Wikimedia
Foundation
vgrigas(a)wikimedia.org [6]
+1 (415) 839-6885 x 6773
149 New
Montgomery Street 6th floor
San Francisco, CA 94105
https://donate.wikimedia.org/ [7]
Links:
------
[1]
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You_All
[2]
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You_Main
[3]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLHZUIVdPU0
[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#Community-Dr…
[5]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Knv6D6Thi0
[6]
mailto:vgrigas@wikimedia.org
[7] https://donate.wikimedia.org/
Dear all,
I am not sure if this was forwarded to the India list
but Huffington post has a guest blog post from Netha this week.
Congratulations Netha! :)
Best,
Noopur
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Hussain)
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WIKIPEDIA: TOWARDS CLOSING THE GENDER GAP
Posted: 09/02/2013 21:49
Follow
Wikipedia [5], Gender Gap [6], Wikipedia Editors [7], Ada
Lovelace [8], Equality [9], Open Knowledge [10],Women [11], UK Tech
News [12]
Submit this story
Most of us know Wikipedia as the
free online encyclopedia, written collaboratively by millions of
volunteers from around the world. I am one [13] of those writers for the
last 3 years. It was by writing articles about medical sciences that I
started contributing to Wikipedia. Later, I was intrigued by the
enormous volume of information available on Wikipedia, and was curious
to find out who actually write them - which made me delve into the
editor demographics. It really made me upset when I figured out that
only around 9% [14] of the contributors to Wikipedia are women. In fact,
I knew that so few women write on Wikipedia, but I hadn't expected the
figure to be as low as 9 percent.
Diversity of opinion is the essence
of any encyclopedia. Having equal representation from women will bring
in wider perspectives, and increase the neutrality of the articles on
Wikipedia. With men creating most of the content for Wikipedia, certain
subjects might be covered more than a subject that may be of interest to
women. Women not writing on Wikipedia mean that certain subjects may not
be receiving the attention they rightfully deserve.
The Wikimedia
Foundation, the not-for-profit organization that hosts Wikipedia, had
recognized this problem sooner than I did. The Wikimedia Foundation has
launched various programs to bridge the gender gap, and the latest
addition to the list is the WikiWomen's Collaborative [15].
The
WikiWomen's Collaborative was created in September 2012 by women around
the world who edit Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects, and want to
encourage others to do the same. The project was aimed at helping women
and transwomen to support one another and engage in programs that help
the Wikimedian community to bring in new women editors. A variety of
events [16], like edit-a-thons, interviews and wikiwomen parties were
conducted as a part of the collaborative.
In May 2012, a WikiWomenCamp
[17] was organized for women in the Wikimedia movement to get together
and discuss about the various issues related to being women involved in
the Wikimedia community with like-minded women. Over 20 women from
different countries participated in the camp to brainstorm solutions for
existing problems that concern women, and suggest future plans to
collaborate with one another. It is customary to conduct a WikiWomen's
luncheon [18] at Wikimania [19], the global gathering of Wikimedians,
exclusively for the women participants.
Organizations like the Ada
Initiative [20], named for the world's first programmer Countess Ada
Lovelace, support women working with open knowledge projects like
Wikipedia by creating resources for women in open stuff, conducting
conferences and advising organizations on supporting women.
Many
outreach programs were conducted in women's universities all over the
world to encourage students to participate in the Wikimedia movement.
The Women's History month edit-a-thons conducted every year, attracts
both male and female editors to write biographies of notable women on
Wikipedia.
The Wikimedia Foundation has set a goal to raise the share
of female contributors to 25% by 2015. Given the good response from the
community to various events conducted for women, it is likely that the
foundation will achieve its goal within the set time limit.
If you
would like to get engaged in various activities for women in Wikipedia,
you are welcome to write to me [21] or join us here [22].
--
SARAH
STIERCH
_WIKIMEDIA FOUNDATION COMMUNITY FELLOW_
>>Mind the gap! Support
Wikipedia women's outreach: donate today [23]
Links:
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[1]
mailto:sstierch@wikimedia.org
[2] mailto:wmfcc-l@lists.wikimedia.org
[3]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/netha-hussain/wikipedia-towards-closing-gen…
[4]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/netha-hussain
[5]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/wikipedia
[6]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/gender-gap
[7]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/wikipedia-editors
[8]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/ada-lovelace
[9]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/equality
[10]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/open-knowledge
[11]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/news/women
[12]
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/uk-tech
[13]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Netha_Hussain
[14]
http://grouplens.org/system/files/wp-gender-wikisym2011.pdf
[15]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomen%27s_Collaborative
[16]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:WikiWomen%27s_Collaborative/Final_r…
[17]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomenCamp
[18]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiChix_2011_Lunch
[19]
https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/
[20] http://adainitiative.org/
[21]
mailto:nethahussain@gmail.com
[22]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomen%27s_Collaborative
[23]
https://donate.wikimedia.org/
[24]
mailto:Wmfcc-l@lists.wikimedia.org
[25]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wmfcc-l
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-applying
"Individual Engagement Grants support Wikimedians to complete projects
that benefit the Wikimedia movement, lead to online impact, or otherwise
serve our mission, community, and strategic priorities.
"We fund individuals or small teams to build, organize, pilot, create,
improve, research or facilitate something that enhances the work of
Wikimedia's volunteers and helps us achieve our vision of a world in
which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all
knowledge."
The deadline for the current round is Feb 15 24:00 UTC, which is about
26 hours from when I send this. Proposals for the next round will open
in August.
Please also consider helping discuss current proposals between now and
22 February: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-reviewing
"Open discussion and evaluation of proposals is intended to encourage
diversity and innovation in the grants made, by bringing multiple
perspectives to the selection process. Funding limits the amount of
Individual Engagement Grants we are able to make in each round, and
proposals are carefully evaluated and selected according to
pre-determined criteria
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG#ieg-criteria>."
Hope this is of interest!
--
Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering Community Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
Dear Executive Committee,
Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested in
misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
*The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If
> the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
> *
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are
funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is
strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from
Chapter representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously
open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from
Secretary was-
*.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
> *
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time Chapter
Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes
training the A2K team.
(CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
*Please be open and transparent to the
> community. The more you become transparent, it is better for al*l.
>
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
* The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,*
>
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes from
individual donations. So ideally
Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its
members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead of
correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board
Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!)
Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept everyone
in dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole
mailing list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially
whenever needed.
(or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for outreach/activities.
*Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and
> works for the community *
>
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community
should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are your
representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete)
truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS - *
>
> This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related
> expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a
> training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in
> Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising
> a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this
> when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
> *
>From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in good-faith,
unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However Chapter
also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I don't
understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
*CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will
> also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the
> ** training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fee*s.
>
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too.
And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other
activities, then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized
and dedicated efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the
remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in loop.
And Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sunil Abraham <sunil(a)mahiti.org>
Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
To: Abhishek Suryawanshi <i.abhishek.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com>
Cc: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has
CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant.
CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial
years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their
financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly
suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related
expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a
training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in
Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising
a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this
when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of
the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual
consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for
this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to
address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how
we should structure this report or if you have any further questions
about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask
me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530
From: Sunil Abraham <sunil(a)cis-india.org>
To: Wikimedia India EC <wikimedia-in-exec(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Attn:
Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Karthik Nadar
Anirudh Singh Bhati
Nikita Belavate
Pranav Curumsey
Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th
of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan
will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day
training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for
either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have
confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will
also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the
training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at
the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi
<i.abhishek.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Sunil,
>
> Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel
> expenses?
>
> And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support
> movement in India.
> Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support
as
> per request.
>
> As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so
your
> reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities
> irrespective of criticism.
>
>
> Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
Hi All,
The following are the minutes of the meeting:
*In Attendance: *
Mr. Vishnu - CIS A2K Programme Director
Mr. Abhijith Jayanthi
Mr. Rahimanuddin Shaik
Dr. Rajasekhar
Mr. Tausif
Mr. Sai Anudeep
Ms. Akhila Thumma
Mr. Veera Venkata Chowdary (User: Veevan)
*Minutes of Meeting:*
(1) The meeting opened with a round of introductions about self and then
Mr. Vishnu introduced CIS and A2K Programme - little history and his
proposed ideas for shaping up the future course of the Programme and open
up for discussions. The summary of the presentation and
comments/suggestions that followed as indicated below:
*Summary*
(1) Greater Coordination is envisaged between CIS/ India Chapter + SIGs and
the Wiki Community at large
(2) Volunteering efforts of Wiki Community (snow balls) and the engagement
needs to be better utilized with the support of CIS (positioning the start
point for the snow ball to start rolling) so that impact is better
captured.
*Suggestions/Comments*
Two approaches to volunteer engagement were suggested - merits/demerits
need to be evaluated and are indicated below
(a) Recognition in terms of participation certificates/ appreciation
letters and setting an hierarchy of achievement will motivate the
volunteers and engage them better.
(b) Wiki Volunteering should stem out of passion for knowledge and should
be structured on a ''No - Expectations-in-Return" Model
(3) Mr. Vishnu gave an update on the institutions in Hyderabad that he is
trying to connect with (initial level)
(4) Few proposals were discussed as part of the initiative:
(a) Engaging on a Mobile Model for Wiki Academies: With volunteers and SIGs
taking active role in engaging on a small-groups/local setup structures -
making Wiki Academy a more sustained dialogue rather than touch and go
activity (one day engagements); move towards a longer engagement pattern
(b) WikiRTI#: A platform/initiative was discussed and received support from
everyone present - to create a repository for anyone to upload RTI
responses and thus move towards a general archive/knowledge bank schematic.
# Mr. Tausif and Mr. Abhijith will be coordinating on creating a template
design for this platform - anyone who is interested and wants to be part of
this activity may contact Mr. Abhijith at abhijith(a)wikimedia.in
(5) Mr. Vishnu proposed a tentative plan to engage a staff member based out
of Hyderabad to roll-out activities in Hyderabad and around the state of
Andhra Pradesh; proposal for which is expected to be discussed before
taking forward. Mr. Abhijith expressed interest to make a necessary
donation for the same post finalization
The meeting concluded with all the participants seeking to have a greater
engagement with A2K Team in Hyderabad involving various languages.
regards
Abhijith
Dear All,
My name is Nishant Shah and I work at the Centre for Internet and Society.
I am the Director-Research and have been one of the co-founders of CIS and
currently on a research fellowship a the Centre for Digital Cultures,
Germany. My involvement with the Wikipedia community (online and offline)
has been more in terms of understanding it as a significant and systemic
move in our knowledge production practices and as a way to learn new forms
of self-organisation, collaboration and governance. This means that I
haven’t been an active editor on Wikipedia but that I have tried to
interact with Wikipedia both as a concept as well as a platform and worked
with other communities of researchers in the area through the ‘Critical
Point of View’ project which also resulted into an English language
Wikipedia Reader. I have variously, in my academic as well as my public
writing, I have looked at the principles of Wikipedia as signalling new
practices of learning and pedagogy, and am in the process of editing a
special issue for the MIT Press’ *Journal of Media and Learning* on ‘The
Classroom in the time of Wikipedia’. Also, in my teaching, I have used
Wikipedia as a pedagogic tool, encouraging students to edit both English
and local language Wikipedias as a part of their assessment.
I am joining this conversation to try and give some information that
different members have sought, and which might help in throwing some light
on how we welcome our collaboration with the Wikimedia foundation through
the A2K programme, and also perhaps, to explain some of the rationale
behind the current state of transition and building of the project. I just
want to begin with 2 disclaimers:
1. It has been our attempt at CIS to build a new kind of research
organisation where we do not have only voice and one ‘party-line’ that
everybody subscribes to. So my responses will neither be exhaustive nor
singular, and my colleagues will join with more details and ideas,
perspectives and explanations soon. We are right now, slightly emotionally
fragile, because we have just lost a dear friend, colleague and champion of
causes that we firmly believe in – Rahul Cherian – and a lot of the people
are at his funeral, trying to cope with the loss this means to them
personally and politically. However, more people will join the
conversations in the coming week, and hopefully there will be more clarity
on things.
2. I am what might be called the official CSCS – CIS link because I
have done my doctoral work at CSCS, and have had research collaborations
with colleagues there on several small projects. Which means that Vishnu
and I have been fellow-students and Dr. Tejaswini Niranjana has been a key
advisor and collaborator for my own intellectual trajectories.
Having made that small introduction, let me try and address some of the
questions that I think I might be able to contribute to, and others will
chip in soon.
*Srikanth wrote: Would you or someone from CIS help me understand the
rationale for selecting two individuals affiliated with CSCS which is
also affiliated with CIS?*
* Theo wrote: “I don't know you and I don't know Dr. Niranjana, try
and understand "Wiki-movement in India" doesn't have any relation with
you, in fact, it barely knows you. I barely know CIS, the organization
that hired you. If there is an older link that might have conflict of
interest in this hiring, I believe it should have been disclosed.”
*and* “You are probably missing an year and a half of context. The
problem with your predecessor and the previous direction has been
criticized, not just by some people on the list, but several
Wikipedians abroad, even in an official report, for not having enough
experienced Wikimedians on hand. Add to that your hiring, and your
advisor, it is odd how 2 people who barely know about Wikipedia will
be leading a team that has been criticized for not having enough
experience and exposure in the first place.“*
Dear Srikanth and Theo, thank you for the questions and I appreciate that
they help us make things as transparent as possible to build common grounds
for working together. CIS has had a few reciprocal and mutual research
collaborations with CSCS so far. Under the CIS-Researchers At Work
Programme, we commissioned four people at CSCS, students and faculty, to
help us work on disciplinary histories of the Internets in India. Ashish
Rajadhyaksha, Zainab Bawa, Nitya Vasudevan (with Nitin Manayath), and Dr.
Aparna Balachandran and Dr. Rochelle Pinto (with Abhijit Chaterjee), have
joined us as CISRAW fellows, for contracts between 300,000 – 500,000 INR,
depending upon the nature of deliverables and scope of work.
Apart from this, CIS has entered into a contract on 2 significant projects
with CSCS – The first is to do a monograph examining the history of privacy
in India and its implications on identity in the face of new e-governance
initiatives like the Aadhar Project. The research is spear-headed by
Malavika Jayaram who is a fellow at the CIS, and brings in 500,000 INR for
the research costs. The second is a collaboration with the ‘Higher
Education Innovation and Research Applications’ cell that is led by Dr.
Niranjana on a project supported by the Ford Foundation called ‘Pathways to
Higher Education’. CIS was asked to be a technology partner in designing
pilot workshops that seek to make interventions in undergraduate education
in the country, to re-think ways in which questions of inequity – caste,
language, class, access, etc. – can be centrally placed in our pedagogic
practices and policies. This four year contract was for a sum of 520,000
INR towards the execution of the workshops in 9 undergraduate colleges in
Maharashtra, Karnataka and Kerala. I am highlighting these affiliations to
gesture towards three things: First, the financial relationships between
CIS and CSCS have been extremely tiny, especially if you look at the
duration of partnership and the other revenue streams (including the A2K
partnership) at the Centre. Second, the relationships have been
intellectually motivated because we found common grounds of research and
intervention for which institutional MoUs were signed. Third, the
relationships have been strategically entered into with full disclosure
about the amounts involved and ties mentioned to the donors who support
this project. I hope this gives some sense of past formal and institutional
relationships between the two centres.
The rationale for selecting two individuals who have different affiliations
with CIS, on to the A2K team is something that the interview committee will
be in the best position to describe. However, there are a few qualms about
Conflict of Interest that I can address, from my own location within CIS
and our attempts at building networks of working together. Especially
because in the collaborative world of research and policy, where
institutions need to work together in order to have sustainable
interventions, it is something that is promoted highly by all stake-holders
to build solidarity and over-lapping teams that help strengthen the causes
we stand for.
In most instances that I am familiar with, Conflict of Interest is resolved
through process. In the interview process initiated by the CIS for
appointment of the Director for the A2K programme, we mitigated any
possible conflict of interest by ensuring that CIS had 1 out of 5 votes on
the interview panel. While Sunil and I both were a part of the interview at
different times, we did not overlap in the process, and we had equal say in
the final decision as all the other 4 panelists. We were acutely aware that
the new director would need support of all the different stakeholders – The
community, the chapter, the India Office, the WMF and the CIS – and tried
to make sure that each body had a nominated representative in the interview
process.
During the interview process, we made sure that the interview panel was
given sufficient information about the applicants’ background and past work
so that any questions of conflict of interest could be flagged by the
panel. This was doubly necessary because we were expecting applications
from people who have been associated with Wikipedia since many years in
different capacities, as well as people who might have had a more external
association with the causes that Wikipedia champions. I sat on the
interviews for the first round of short-listed applicants, and when I was
informed that Vishnu will be on the second round of interviewees, I had
categorically mentioned at that point (and I am sure my fellow-panelists
will be able to corroborate) that I have known Vishnu since many years as a
colleague and friend, and that I would want to be recused from interviewing
him, in case it exerts undue influence on the process.
I was not privy to the discussions that emerged at the end of the second
round of interviews so I don’t know what steered the final decision, but I
just want to emphasise that we have tried to enforce transparency in and
about the process, and the fact that Vishnu was eventually appointed after
a rigorous process by a panel consisting of 5 people representing different
stake-holder bodies of the Wikipedia body, was a unanimous decision that
was arrived at by people who did not personally know him and did not have
any institutional connections with him, though CIS did have collaborations
with an organisation which is one of the many that he has been affiliated
with.
Dr. Tejaswini Niranjana was also one of the applicants who was short-listed
for the interviews for the same position and the panel met with her. Again,
the only person who has institutional ties with her was Sunil, but I want
to highlight that the research collaboration with CSCS has been through me,
and not through Sunil per se. It is a small point to labour, about
distinguishing between institutional and personal tie-ups but I hope that
it helps reflection on the process. As Vishnu has already mentioned in his
response, the interview panel felt that Dr. Niranjana was over-qualified
for this position. However, it was recognised that her contributions to the
project in the role of an advisor would help us greatly to achieve some of
the grant deliverables that CIS has promised to the WMF.
Dr. Niranjana’s own interventions in the field of Indian language
translation, accessibility, educational resources and integration have been
consolidated in her intellectual work but also in the institutional growth
beginning with the establishment of the Higher Education Cell with the Tata
Trust and now the formal HEIRA that she leads. In our conversations with
the A2K team, we had also separately realised that one of the ways of
ensuring that Wikipedia reaches younger and new editors is by placing it
within the undergraduate-university learning environments. The Interview
Panel also realised that the work that HEIRA is doing right now, in
building a nation-wide network of academic institutions which are
interested in the questions of local language resource development through
digital technologies and OER platforms is in close sync with our ambitions
for the A2K team. Hence, it was recommended and then actualised, that Dr.
Niranjana is joining us as a Distinguished Fellow at the CIS, who will help
grow our networks, enhance our strategies, and consolidate our presence in
the academic-university spaces which will lead us to our ambition of
positioning Wikipedia more strongly within the local language communities
as well as within education systems.
I hope this helps to clarify some of the doubts and to make the process
more transparent.
*Theo Wrote: Hisham left almost 7-8 months ago, the hiring has been delayed
for a few months, then the entire game of charades with the new hire. I'm
lead to deduce that CIS wasn't itself thrilled with the prospect of getting
involved to this level, I believe they used an intern for the majority of
correspondence to this list. All the while a team remained employed with no
one to oversee them, no direction.*
Theo, one of the things we are very proud of at CIS, and indeed, are
learning from the new possibilities that structures like Wikipedia offer,
is our commitment to not creating hierarchies, working within an
environment of mutual trust, and believing in peoples’ commitment to their
work without micro-managing them. I am giving a short-hand summary there
(it almost sounds like an elevator pitch even as I write it) only so that I
can respond to some of the concerns that you have flagged.
There is no denying that CIS is thrilled to be collaborating with the WMF
for setting up the A2K programme. Not only does it help us in getting
closely associated with a community and a structure that we have been
deeply involved in researching, but we also see it sitting very tightly
with our other endeavours in the field of open access, intellectual
property rights and accessibility. As a young independent research
institute, we feel privileged to have this formal collaboration with the
WMF and the Wikipedia community and even though I am not very hands-on
involved in the everyday running of this team, I want to just reiterate
that we are indeed thrilled with this collaboration. That is not to say
that we appreciate the risks involved and the huge administrative
responsibilities that come with such a valuable project (not just
monetarily but also in terms of is real-life politics), but we hope that we
will be able to provide it the support and housing it needs, and also learn
from the process.
Unlike some of my other colleagues who were more closely working with the
India Office under Hisham’s leadership, I am not privy to the range of
events that happened in the early part of the setting up. However, once CIS
got involved with the project and the decision was made to house the A2K
programme at CIS, I can confidently say that the A2K team members were
guided and managed as much as any other members at the Centre. There were
regular visits from other colleagues, one-on-one conversations with the
team as well as with individual members helping them to transition into the
new structure, and long reviews stretching into several days, of
conceptualising, strategising and planning towards the deliverables of the WMF
grant. We firmly believe, at CIS, that people who are in the field, and
know the mechanics of actual functioning, should be trusted and encouraged
to perform their tasks in a manner that they think best, and our role,
institutionally, is to help them grow to their full potential. And this is
the position we have taken with the A2K team, as we have, with all our
other team members, and I do sincerely hope that the team did not feel
‘orphaned’ in that stage of transition.
However, I do take the critique that the team might not have been at its
most productive during the transition because it required a lot of
restructuring and setting up of institutional processes which requires a
learning curve. Also, we believe that adequate time spent on consolidating
and planning our activities- even at the risk of being inactive for a short
period – is generally more productive to efficient work for the future and
that the delays in the new kick-start might have been because we were
spending time in reviewing and planning for the future.
The hiring process has been long, and indeed, the most rigorous that I have
ever been a part of. The delays in it and the final appointment are things
that others who were more involved with it might be able to explain better
– I am guessing there were a lot of factors at play – and so I will leave
it to them to chip in.
You mentioned that most of the correspondence happened through Jadine
Lennon who is an intern at CIS and I want to just explain that at CIS, we
take our long-term interns very seriously. Jadine is at the CIS for 11
months, through a long-standing relationship with the University of
Torronto. This is not an off-the-cuff short-term internship to get those
credits to graduate, but a serious commitment from both sides to integrate
her in our work. At CIS, very frankly, our interns rock the world. They are
there to learn, but they learn through supervision and personal attention
and we take pride in the fact that most long-term interns have managed
professional grants, delivered research and policy publications, and even
after their official internships, have returned to be a part of our team in
different capacities. In the non-hierarchical space that CIS is striving to
be, the fact that communication happened through an intern is not any
indication of our disinterest in the project.
Also, it might be worthwhile mentioning that while Jadine was the official
contact person on the list for this process, it was closely supervised by
Sunil Abraham, who is the executive director at the CIS. Emails were
drafted collaboratively, checked to make sure that they are correct, and
sent after deliberation by the people involved. If there were errors, those
are not because an ‘intern’ was managing them, but because we are also
quite human (and also like most non-profit organisations, generally have
multiple commitments to various projects) and we did try our best, but
sometimes these things happen.
I just want to end by saying that we are very proud and thrilled to be a
part of the collaboration. We see the A2K as deeply central to much of our
research and policy work and we hope that we will be able to bring our
institutional knowledge and network, as well as independent commitment to
Wikipedia’s interventions in the world of Access to Knowledge. We also see
this as an opportunity for us to learn and grow through these interactions
and work. I, for one, am excited to see the A2K team coming together and do
hope that despite the baggage of the past, we will get a fair chance to
prove our mettle and to earn trust (because trust must be earned) from the
different communities involved. In the meantime, we do ask for some faith
(because faith can be asked for) and support from the community to help us
achieve the goals that the WMF has set for us through this project.
Warm regards
Nishant
P.S. I do apologise for the length of this email. But sometimes these
things require the space, and partly, I guess it is a professional hazard
where researchers find it difficult to say less when they can say more!
--
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Director (Research), Centre for Internet and Society,Bangalore, India (
www.cis-india.org )
International Tandem Partner, Inkubator - Leuphana University, Lueneburg,
Germany
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Hello Wikipedians,
A new way to contribute to Samskrit is here!!!! The Samskrit Wikiquote is
officially open for contributions. Thanks to all the people who have
striven hard to make it count.
The webpage can be found at *sa.wikiquote.org* <http://sa.wikiquote.org>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sumana <sumana.koundinya(a)gmail.com>
Namaste,
It is with immense pleasure, I wish to announce that Samskrit Wikiquote
project ( *विकिसूक्तिः*) is out of Incubator and is available as an open
source project like Wikipedia now. It was in a dormant stage with very
limited editing options and visibility since its inception.
We had started our efforts towards this in August 2012, persuading
Wikipedia Language Committee. Over 7000 system messages were translated to
samskrit, some 800 articles of useful content related to this project were
created and uploaded, which were some of the requirements to approve new
projects.Thanks to dedicated Wikipedians like Shiju Alex, that today we
have the project out of incubator, which means, this project would be
readily available for everyone to edit and use now on.
The project is a store house of Subhashitas extracted from different
scriptures like Veda, Upanishat Puraana, RamayaNa, Mahabharatam etc,
categorised based on the topics with explanations. Also, it contains the
idioms and phrases, witty puzzles, sayings of great people, Chitrakaavyam
etc, everything in Samskrit. It is to be noted that all these, in a single
webpage is not available anywhere else in such an easily available form. We
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I request everyone to visit once for guidance, comments or contributions...
Once again, Congratulations to one and all who have been instrumental in
crossing this milestone...
Thanks and Warm Regards,
Dr Sumana
Wikipedia Wing, Samskrita Bharati
98807 93423
--
Thanks & Regards,
Abhiram C,
Wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org> Editor,
User: sbblr0803 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sbblr0803>
> * The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,*
>
Seriously? Chapter is having money which is collected from WMF (Donation
drive.) Chapter should be 'financially accountable' to overall community.
There are hopes from CIS, as they have decent background. Additionally they
have received WMF Funding(Again money which comes via donations).
I can see CIS employee active on other thread - It seems even CIS is least
interested abt clarifications and transperency?
Regards,
Niranjan Patel.
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
srik.ramk(a)wikimedia.in> wrote:
> Abhishek, where are you getting these ideas from? As our Secretary
> stated, p
>
> lease stop speaking for us. Substantiate your claim that CIS
> is funding us. The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
> and will put up all Grants, and other details in public. Running a
> society in India has a thousand formalities with various Government
> departments.
>
> On 2/12/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi <i.abhishek.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > I meant Board Meeting. Sorry for confusion and apologies for same.
> >
> > Chapter flight tickets and travel expenses are covered by CIS, Correct me
> > if I am wrong???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas <dsvyas(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 11 Feb 2013 17:25, "Abhishek Suryawanshi" <
> >> i.abhishek.suryawanshi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It will be unfair to call it cheating, however -
> >> >
> >> > 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account.
> >>
> >> And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+ Indian
> >> Rupees?
> >>
> >> I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my experience,
> I
> >> know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g. electricity,
> >> water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things are
> >> not
> >> so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years
> ago).
> >>
> >> >
> >> > 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by
> >> CIS.
> >> >
> >> I qlways thought WMIN and CIS were two seperate entities and their
> >> finances are dealt seperately. Will love you elaborating more on this.
> >>
> >> > I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is
> >> required for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
> >>
> >> I don't think this is a simple query Abhishek. Have you seen chapter
> >> website? I'll strongly recomend you visit it. There is a link to Grants
> >> page in navigation menu. If you visit that page, you'll realise that
> >> chapter has funded several activities carried out by communities. Do you
> >> think will it be possible for chapter to tell you today that how many
> >> grant
> >> requests it is going to get this year? How much ammount will it be
> >> requested from various communities? Or do you suggest chapter decide a
> >> figure today and put a cap on grants and other expenses once that amount
> >> is
> >> used?
> >>
> >> This is just one example, don't take it as "the only expense" of
> chapter.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Lets have this clarity and transparency, so together we can make sure
> >> India Chapter is also strong (financially) like other Chapters.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > -Abhishek Suryawanshi,
> >> > On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Dhaval
> >> (on my own behalf)
> >>
> >> Disclaimer: I have no formal tie with the chapter nor with CIS. I have
> no
> >> financial inrerest with either of them personally.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Rudolph the Rd Nosed Reindeer <
> >> rednosedrudy(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Interesting isn't it? That one should have timed that A2K bulletin to
> >> come out exactly when the Chapter is having a fundraiser and leave
> people
> >> like the good Doctor here confused about all this? Seems a bit
> >> deliberately
> >> done, don't you think?
> >> >>
> >> >> Too bad I ain't an Indian citizen, Else I would have donated a
> >> tremendous amount to you guys.
> >> >> Will spread the word on donations though.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> For others, please donate (liberally);
> >> >> http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Donate
> >> >>
> >> >> ________________________________
> >> >> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:33:02 +0530
> >> >> From: srik.ramk(a)wikimedia.in
> >> >> To: nawabhakimdr(a)ymail.com; wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Dr. Nawab Hakim,
> >> >> to clarify, the 2lakh that you are referring to was made as a grant
> to
> >> the Centre for Internet and Society, an independent organisation working
> >> out of Delhi.
> >> >>
> >> >> The Wikimedia Chapter (India) is independent society registered in
> >> India, under the Karnataka Societies Act. It is a Non-Profit entity
> >> comprising of volunteers. We rely on donations to run the Chapter.
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope this clears it out.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Dr. Nawab Hakim <
> >> nawabhakimdr(a)ymail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> hai, why to donate to wikipedia chapter when they have 2lakh ruppes.
> >> this is cheating.
> >> >>>
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Srikanth Ramakrishnan
> >> >> Member of the Executive Committee
> >> >> Wikimedia Chapter [India]
> >> >>
> >> >> Donate to the Wikimedia India Chapter today
> >> >>
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