Hi,
Thanks for the initiative Hisham and Nitika!
We need some following documents before submit the application
1. Apply on our own letterhead for participation
2. name & address
3. required space : stall (sq. mt) / table
4. space allotted in the last two years
5. photocopy of current trade licence & catalogue
6. latest issue of the journal
7. undertaking to abide by the rules and regulations
So we need help from WMF/Chapter for Point 1 and 5. They want photocopy of
society registration instead of *current trade licence & catalogue** .*
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Nitika <ntandon(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Completely support the idea. The book fair seems a very good idea to reach
> out to those who might be interested to edit English or Bengali Wikipedia.
>
> I was going through some of the best practices in setting up a Wikipedia
> booth & I learnt that using eye-catchers is one of the successful ways to
> attract attention of the attendees. Maybe we could use this idea too:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Use_eye-catchers_to_attract_attention.
>
> Would be more than happy to discuss things over a call/Skype etc. Please
> let me know if I can help out in anyway.
>
> Nitika
>
> On 02-Dec-2011, at 12:43 PM, Biswarup Ganguly wrote:
>
> > Dear Kalyan,
> >
> > Thank you for your detail proposal of hiring sound system and stickers
> > and/or caps, T-shirts etc. You are right that we need broad band
> > connection or data card whichever is available for running the live
> > edits, teach and show throughout the exhibition.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Kalyan Sarkar <kalyan.sarkar(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Dear Biswarup da,
> >>
> >> We need the sound system to assist the promotional videos that we would
> run
> >> on the TV as well as promotional events like spot edit/quiz contests.
> The
> >> promotional videos could either be extracts from Jimmy's inspiring
> >> speeches, clips from Wiki Conference India or small video tutorials on
> how
> >> to make the first edit. We can also hold spot edit contests, where a
> random
> >> person is selected from the crowd to make an edit. If that is a fair
> edit,
> >> we hand him/her a prize. We can also hold spot quiz contests, where the
> >> correct answer gets the prize. The prize could be a T shirt. In order to
> >> organize such promotional events, we need a sound system.
> >>
> >> I also think, we need internet connection or data card whichever is
> >> applicable.
> >>
> >> For promotional purposes we can also think of stickers and/or paper caps
> >> (sun guards) with Wikipedia logo. We can also sell the surplus T shirts
> >> from the Wiki Conference India programme or other merchandise if any.
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards,
> >> Kalyan Sarkar
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Biswarup Ganguly
> >> <gangulybiswarup(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Jayanta,
> >>>
> >>> It seems to be fine as a starting point of the 'Budget' to me but how
> >>> the sound system be used there?
> >>>
> >>> Regards.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Jayanta Nath <jayantanth(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Hi
> >>>>
> >>>> I am submitting tentative budget breakup for this event...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *Item*
> >>>>
> >>>> * Cost in Rs *
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1
> >>>>
> >>>> Stall Booking @9 sqm
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 60,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 2
> >>>>
> >>>> Stall decoration
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 15,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 3
> >>>>
> >>>> Furniture Rent
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 5,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 4
> >>>>
> >>>> Plasma TV 44” With Stand
> >>>> With DVD Player
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 15,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 5
> >>>>
> >>>> Laptop rent
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 6,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 6
> >>>>
> >>>> Sound system
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 10,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 7
> >>>>
> >>>> Transportation
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 5,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 8
> >>>>
> >>>> Food@Rs1000/day
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 12,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 9
> >>>>
> >>>> Leaflet
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Bengali FAQ@10000 Nos
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 20,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Bengali Promotion
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 2,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> English Wikipedia
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 2,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 10
> >>>>
> >>>> Hire staff/bearer
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> @ Rs 500@12 days
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 6,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 11
> >>>>
> >>>> Banner
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 2,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>> 12
> >>>>
> >>>> other incidentals
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 10,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Rs 170,000.00
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> $ 3,296.05
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=INR&To=USD
> >>>>
> >>>> Please I would request to every of Bengali/Kolkata
> community,add/modify
> >>> or
> >>>> expand as requirement above Budget breakup.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps you should correct Mr Tapas: we belong in the
> >>> education/reference
> >>>>> sector, not the IT sector. And we are non-profit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is a good idea to remind our partners that although we're based on
> >>>>> Internet projects, we are not at all *about* the Internet, but about
> >>> free
> >>>>> knowledge, and the creation and dissemination thereof.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Asaf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 26, 2011 12:10 AM, "Biswarup Ganguly" <
> gangulybiswarup(a)gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>> As the types of our organisation the Wikipedia
> >>>>>> goes in IT category. They will provide only the space noting else!
> >>>>>
Hi Folks,
My apologies for not replying sooner. I am on the ground in India, doing in person interviews, while juggling communication on email, talk pages, skype, etc.
Here is a summary of what I have been up to:
20 hours in US reviewing talk pages and email list communication regarding IEP
Interviews so far, in order in which they were done (in person, unless otherwise noted):
- Barry Newstead, WMF SF
- Frank Schulenburg, WMF SF
- Annie Lin, WMF SF
- LiAnna Davis, WMF SF
- Hisham Mundol, WMF India
- Nitika Tandon, WMF India
- Shiju Alex, WMF India
- Ram Shankar Yadav, CA Pune
- Ishita Ghosh, professor, SSE, Pune
- informal conversation with 2 SSE students and 2 CAs over lunch in Pune
- Rashmi Barua, SSE student
- Devanchi Tripathi, SSE student and CA
- Ashwin Baindur, Mandar Kulkarni (Pune WP community members) and Sudhanwa Jogalekar (OSM friend of WP, Pune), group interview over dinner
- Abhilasha Sharma, SSE student
- Anushikha Benazur, SSE student
- Dr. Jyoti Chandiramani, SSE Director
- 3 more SSE students, informal conversation over lunch
- Debanjan Bandyopadhyay, CA SSE
- Radha Misra, professor, SNDT Women's College, Pune
- Shweta Shinde, student, COEP
- Gautam Akiwate, student, COEP
- informal conversation with 3 CAs and 1 student, COEP
- Dr. Anil V. Sahasrabudhe, Director, COEP
- Dr. Pradeep Waychal, professor, COEP
- Kudpung, WP Admin (skype video)
- Srikanth Lakshmanan, WP editor, OA for IEP (skype audio)
- Hisham Mundol, WMF India (telephone)
Reviewing user, talk and article pages of all CAs and students interviewed.
Ongoing check-in on talk pages regarding program communication.
Interviews to come:
- Wasim, CA COEP
- Pratik Lohati, CA COEP
- Arjun M. K., CA COEP
- Vaibhav Chandak, CA COEP
- Prof. Abhijit Sir, professor, COEP
- Bala Jeyaraman (telephone)
- Risker (skype)
- Ruud (email)
- Andy Dingley (email)
- Voceditenore (email)
- Fluffernutter (email)
- Danger (talk page)
- MER-C (talk page)
- Matthiespaul (tbd)
- Moonriddengirl (telephone)
- Ayush Khanna, Data Analyst, Global Development Program, WMF SF (telephone)
This is my complete list. Data gathering closes Monday, 5 December, except I will take the statistical numbers from WMF whenever I get them.
My contract includes 20 interviews, and I am already doing many more, so please refrain from adding to my list.
I am completely off line and away from cell phone from noon 5 December - noon 12 December, San Francisco Time. I will not respond to any communication during that time.
I will be collating interviews and drafting my report 12 - 31 December. I will deliver as a word file to WMF and also post to my Userspace (exact location TBD, I am just learning all of this WP online method as I go).
Please assume good faith. I am very good at what I do, and I have a lot of integrity. I respect Wikipedia and everyone who contributes to it.
Warm Regards,
Tory Read
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> Often, it helps to have an outsider perspective. We in the Pune community
> met Torey to day and are of the opinion that the Foundation wants someone
> from their side to provide an impartial outsider's view and also to explore
> ways ahead in addition to finding out whats going on and what had happened.
>
> Obviously, her assignment is just one of a number of initiatives that are
> underway to improve/get feedback regarding the IEP fiasco.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Ashwin Baindur
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Anirudh Bhati <anirudhsbh(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Barry Newstead <bnewstead(a)wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the engagement on the questions that should be tacked in this
>>> evaluation. See inline for a brief response to Theo's question about Tory
>>> Read.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Barry
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Theo10011 <de10011(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really didn't read the entire thread to have a lot of comments, I just
>>>> have one point I noticed that I wanted to ask - Why is Tory Read conducting
>>>> the "evaluative study"?
>>>>
>>>> As I recall, her only exposure to India and Wikipedia before this was
>>>> the research project. And even that had nothing to do with the Education
>>>> program directly. Is there a reason why she's leading the study?
>>>>
>>>> It seems like the same pattern of avoiding knowledgeable
>>>> and experienced members of the community to focus on the "outside
>>>> perspective". I thought the only lesson that the team did take away was,
>>>> you can't do in India what the global education team and Frank did in the
>>>> US. They don't scale and you need local solutions.
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure Ms. Read is a competent researcher and would do a good
>>>> job but I don't see how Ms. Read's expertise or exposure to India and the
>>>> Education program would make this process any different from the pattern
>>>> that brought IEP here. Talking to the staff in SF, or spending a day in
>>>> Delhi or Pune is not going to give a clear picture at all.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Tory is indeed a competent researcher who built a solid understanding of
>>> the community and how things work in Wikimedia during her engagement with
>>> us in the India Chronicles. I selected her for this assignment because she
>>> has a good working knowledge of our general situation from her work on the
>>> India Chronicles, she has the skills to interview a good cross-section of
>>> those involved (WP editors, students, profs, Campus Ambassadors, online
>>> ambassadors, staff, others), she can look at the issue with fresh eyes and
>>> help synthesize learning and recommendations for changes, she will get this
>>> done in a timely fashion while memories are still fresh (which is really
>>> important).
>>>
>>> She is doing a combination of Skype, email and in-person interviews...and
>>> is in Pune this week actually. I'm confident that her work will be valuable
>>> to all of us and it will be shared in its entirety with the community. It
>>> won't be the only work on this. Both the India team and the Global
>>> Education Program team are committed to doing more joint problem-solving on
>>> future changes to the program with those interested in engaging with us.
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Barry,
>>
>> My understanding is that conducting an evaluative study requires a deep
>> comprehension of our projects and the volunteers. At the same time, an
>> exercise like this demands objectivity while analyzing empirical evidence.
>>
>> By building a repertoire of anecdotal evidence through a series of
>> interviews mostly conducted over phone/VoIP, I do not see how this report
>> will inform us beyond what discussions on this mailing list already have.
>>
>> Tory Read is an accomplished story-teller, but she is not a Wikipedian.
>> Can we simply not have WMF staff in New Delhi handle the interviews and
>> requests for comment? (They should also seek help from some of the
>> established Wikipedia editors.)
>>
>> The reason why I am stressing on this is because I think that an
>> established Wikipedia editor would be better-placed to objectively analyze
>> what worked and what did not work, and how this program may be improved.
>> Such editors need not be Indian, they can be a group of Wikipedians who
>> were directly or peripherally involved on Wikipedia when the IEP program
>> was being executed.
>>
>> Best,
>> anirudh
>>
>>
>>
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From: Arjuna Rao Chavala <arjunaraoc(a)gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Update on City/language SIG
To: wmin-members(a)googlegroups.com
Dear Members,
I am glad to inform you about further updates to City/Language SIGs. The
following members have volunteered and/or accepted the nomination from
fellow members to lead the SIG. EC has decided to appoint them as the
Chairpersons for the respective SIGs as given below.
User:AshLin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AshLin>, English SIG
Rahimanuddin Shaik<http://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B0%B5%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%A1%E0%B1%81%E0%B0%95%…>,
Telugu SIG
A Radhakrishna <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna>, Bangalore
SIG
Please extend your support to them in all SIG activities.
We are continuing to discuss with other city/language members and will keep
you updated on the developments.
Cheers
Arjuna Rao Chavala
President, Wikimedia India.
Hello,
This is User:Rangilo_Gujarati here basically from Gujarat and now in Pune,
am planning an outreach event most probably a workshop in MS University
Baroda, Gujarat during their forthcoming technical festival
Footprints<http://www.msu-footprints.org/>.
Also am the Campus Ambassador for India Education Program too, I need some
input from you guys.
The organizers of this event have basically no idea about what a community
is or how WP works, since I ll be targeting newbies I am planning to start
from Introduction to WP, then an editing session and main motto behind this
would be to start an active community in Baroda or Gujarat and get the
contributors to EN and GU WP and commons too.
Now the organizers are asking few questions like "Why anyone should attend
it?", "What would be the exclusivity of the workshop?", "How can we
(university and attendees) be benefited from this?". They are worried too
much about "exclusivity", how to convince them that these type of sessions
are some thing more than "exclusively in Footprints", "first time in
gujarat" ??
Since I have no experience in conducting an outreach workshop independently
I want your feedback on it, and what possibly should I answer them?.
Please do reply with your valuable suggestions/critics.
--
Thanks
Arnav (ricku).
(User:Rangilo_Gujarati) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati>
hi,
In between the conference preparations, I got a job offer and moved to
Bharuch, a town situated in between Surat and Baroda. Just wondering if
there are any Wikipedians from here. Would be lovely to meet up.
I went to the K J Choksi Public Library today. It's like an oasis in the
middle of the Sahara. I fall short of better metaphors to describe the
place. Awesome book collection in English, Hindi and Gujarati. While
becomign a member I broached the idea of a Wikipedia workshop and the folks
at the library are very excited at the prospect. They told me they lack
resource persons who can conduct such programmes for children and members.
While I've offered to conduct the workshop in English and if there is
interest, in Hindi as well, I need help in Gujarati. Any Wikipedian in
Bharuch who is interested in doing a meetup would be great!
warm regards,
Pradeep
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How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
Dear friends,
A new list has been born.
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Now, English Wikipedians editing on India-related subjects can debate,
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where discussions on Wikimedia Commons, and other English Wikimedia
Projects such as WikiQuote, Wiktionary, WikiSource etc can be discussed.
Besides this, discussions on Offline Wikipedia, GLAM or other English
language events are also welcome.
A lot of action will come away from Wikimedia-l into this list besides the
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Lets make new and great things happen!
Warm regards,
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and this is where I feel a little stupid because Arnav has been hounding me for answers to these very same questions for a while now, and I have been lax. Arnav, apologies and please see inline...
hisham
On Dec 3, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Arnav Sonara wrote:
> Hello,
>
> This is User:Rangilo_Gujarati here basically from Gujarat and now in Pune, am planning an outreach event most probably a workshop in MS University Baroda, Gujarat during their forthcoming technical festival Footprints. Also am the Campus Ambassador for India Education Program too, I need some input from you guys.
>
> The organizers of this event have basically no idea about what a community is or how WP works, since I ll be targeting newbies I am planning to start from Introduction to WP, then an editing session and main motto behind this would be to start an active community in Baroda or Gujarat and get the contributors to EN and GU WP and commons too.
>
> Now the organizers are asking few questions like "Why anyone should attend it?",
> Wikipedia is (arguably) the worlds most popular source of knowledge. It is entirely free to use. Globally 450+ million read Wikipedia articles every month - and in India, betwen 15-17 million people read it every month. Few people however know about how content actually reaches Wikipedia. Folks attending will get an insight and introduction into how content gets onto Wikipedia as well as basic introductions on how they can contribute content and links with local community members who can support them if they choose to edit.
> People attending will get an opportunity to learn a little bit about participating in this fascinating free knowledge project and join tens of thousands of committed, learned and high-minded community members all over the world in their quest to spread spread free knowledge to every single human being on the planet.
> Folks who edit wikipedia gain tremendous pride and satisfaction from their contributions. Folks who start to edit Wikipedia learn amazing things as they start their editing journey - including better writing ability, richer critical thinking and stronger research skills. These are all incredibly useful in their academic and professional and indeed personal lives.
> "What would be the exclusivity of the workshop?",
I'd play this a little differently. If they are really keen on exclusivity, one can always say that while we conduct workshops and academies and meetups, the numbers are relatively small. (My guess on workshops and academies is that we might have conducted <50 in the last year.) In a country like India, <50 is hugely exclusive!
> Given it is a festival, and there are likely to be students from other colleges, not sure we can (or want to make it exclusive for that college.)
> "How can we (university and attendees) be benefited from this?".
Please see the last point on the question, "Why should anyone attend?" ...For the University, you can rattle of the list of the kind of colleges that have worked with us globally. Some of them are really well known and are available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:United_States_Education_Program/Cour… and include Columbia, Georgetown, George Washington, New York, California-Berkely, Yale, etc. etc. etc.
> They are worried too much about "exclusivity", how to convince them that these type of sessions are some thing more than "exclusively in Footprints", "first time in gujarat" ??
>
Sometimes, the questions they are raising are best answered in person or on the phone. If you need me to speak to them, or even come down in person, happy to do that. Just let me know. I shall reach out to you and sort out the letter from. (...and yes, I know I have delayed the letter to you.)
> Since I have no experience in conducting an outreach workshop independently I want your feedback on it, and what possibly should I answer them?.
>
> Please do reply with your valuable suggestions/critics.
>
Hey folks,
I just saw that Indian editor Karthik Nadar is in the banners today,
with a beautiful appeal. Go, India!
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1202_KN/en/US&utm_sou…
Thanks,
Sue
Here's the text:
>From Wikipedia author Karthik Nadar
On the day a terrorist attack ripped through the heart of my city,
Wikipedia changed my life.
The 2011 bombings in Mumbai made international headlines, but at the
moment the crisis struck, there was no straightforward information
about what had happened.
I knew I couldn’t be the only one looking for answers. So I went out
to take photos, uploaded a map I pasted together, and made sure the
Wikipedia article on the incident would help people make sense of the
chaos.
Since then, I’ve made thousands of edits to Wikipedia articles. My
experience that day on Wikipedia made my passion for photojournalism
clear, and I’ve followed that path ever since.
I felt so grateful for Wikipedia, and when I learned how it stays
online, I donated 250 rupees to do my part. Will you make a donation
to keep this valuable resource available around the world?
Wikipedia enables us to share the world. With 470 million different
visitors every month, it’s revolutionized the way we consume and
spread information -- sometimes even down to the moment it happens.
And it does it all for free -- with zero ads, under 1,000 servers and
fewer than 100 staff.
That’s amazing. Just look at Google or Facebook. They have hundreds of
thousands of servers and tens of thousands of staff.
It’s no wonder Wikipedia is the 5th most popular and most visited site
online. And it’s also no wonder why they need support every year from
people like me and you.
Will you pitch in $5, $20, $50 or whatever you think Wikipedia is worth to you?
Thanks,
Karthik Nadar
Wikipedia author
--
Sue Gardner
Executive Director
Wikimedia Foundation
415 839 6885 office
415 816 9967 cell
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in
the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
hi,
Thought some on this list might be interested.
warm regards,
Pradeep
As every year we the members of Kutch Amateur Astronomers' Club are taking
part in the Rann Utsav 2011 which organizes at the Kala Dungar (The Black
Hills) and the white salty desert of Dhorado village in the northern Kutch
(80kms from Bhuj city). This year the event will bring more fun and
excitement because the total lunar eclipse is on the same day (10th
December) and the view of the copper moon above the white salty flats of
the desert will be undoubtedly breathtaking! There will be more interaction
with the people who will be coming from outside the country.
The local timing for the eclipse is as below:
Moonrise: 6:00pm (IST)
Moon enters Penumbra: 5:06pm
Moon enters Umbra: 6:18pm
Greatest: 8:05pm
Moon leaves Umbra: 9:45pm
Moon leaves Penumbra: 10:58pm
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On 11/30/2011 01:48 AM, wikimediaindia-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:00:00 +0530
> From: Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia's participation in Google
> Summer of Code
> To: Wikimedia India Community list
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> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 01:53, Sumana Harihareswara
> <sumanah(a)wikimedia.org>wrote:
>
>> > I managed MediaWiki's participation in Google Summer of Code this year,
>> > and could talk with anyone interested in participating, anyone
>> > researching it, and anyone who is curious. :-) We try to document our
>> > participation on mediawiki.org wiki pages.
>> >
> Thanks Sumana for posting the summary voluntarily, was good to read them.
Glad I could help!
> At the risk of sounding foolish comparing content creation and software
> development, I have few questions. Feel free to ignore them if they are
> foolish ones :)
Yes, it is a very big difference, comparing content creation and
software development. It might be more useful to try to look at other
*writing* projects or other similar projects for comparison, such as
essay contests and Wiki Loves Monuments.
Also, GSoC is a FULL-TIME project for participants; they work 40
hours/week for three months. So you might want to consider Google
Code-In as another model to compare
http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/10/google-code-in-are-you-in.html
. Code-In asks for code, documentation, and other contributions in the
form of smaller tasks. Similarly OpenHatch http://openhatch.org/blog/
has the goal of bringing new people into open source with bite-size
tutorials and tasks.
You've asked some huge questions. I shall answer them as well as I can.
> 1. Do students come up with own project proposals / take up community's
> ideas and work on them. Whats the level of motivation / ownership between
> the two. I am asking this just to compare GEP's model of asking students to
> write on designated topics and if it has an impact on motivation.
The answer is "both".
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch007_finding-the-right-project/
and
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch008_writing-a-proposal/
give more details. Basically, open source communities have basic ideas
that they offer the students. Students applying for GSoC have to choose
among 175 open source projects, which vary in population, codebase size,
language, platform, etc., etc., and create proposals for the tasks
they'll spend 3 months working on. The students, in applying to work
with any project, have to write proposals detailing what they will do
and how. The timeline from 2011:
http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/ti…
You probably also want to read
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/defining-a-project/ . The
mentors who have written that manual have a lot of experience regarding
encouraging students.
Different projects have different processes for soliciting proposals and
managing proposal submissions.
> 2. What factors do you think make students to continue contributing to the
> opensource community?
This is a big and open question and many people are trying to figure it
out. Some thoughts on this from the GSoC mentors' manual:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/building-a-lifetime-contributor/
There are many factors; some of them are probably very long-term, and
some of them are easier to affect. Experts Leslie Hawthorn and Mel Chua
think we have to work in terms of engineering education -- Hawthorn is
working on ensuring that kids around the ages of 11-14 know that they
have the power to tinker with software, and Chua has done a lot of work
on bringing open source work into the undergraduate computer science
curriculum via http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE .
I think it helps if a student has free time to contribute to open source
even during the academic year. So, having to earn money via part-time
jobs, or having family responsibilities (cooking, cleaning, caretaking,
etc.), or having parents who don't understand and scorn this hobby ("you
should be studying instead!" "why are you working for free?") decreases
the likelihood of continued contribution.
It helps a lot, I think, if students make personal connections, feel
that their work is valued, can see that their work makes a difference,
and can see a career path that open source contribution helps with.
These are factors that Google Summer of Code and similar programs can
help with.
This is not a comprehensive list. There are people writing
dissertations about this topic! :)
> 3. How crucial is the role of mentors in it. Who are the mentors
> usually(WMF staff / community members?), how do they join as mentors?. I am
> asking this particularly since I see mentors' involvement among reasons for
> failure.
I hesitate to get in the middle of an argument about another project,
especially one I was not involved in and do not know very well. So
please do not take what I say as implying anything about any other programs.
Please read
http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/what-makes-a-good-mentor/ and
other parts of that instruction guide that give best practices for
mentoring students in GSoC.
Just to be clear: the Google Summer of Code project for MediaWiki aims
to work on MediaWiki *as a whole* and is not restricted to projects that
directly benefit the Wikimedia project or the Wikimedia Foundation.
Mentors are very important. For MediaWiki's GSoC project, some are
Wikimedia Foundation staff and some are not. You can see that here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2011
Mentors need to be people who know the part of the codebase that the
student will be working on, who are eager to help the student achieve
their goal, and who are kind and diligent.
Sometimes the project's GSoC administrator (in this case, me) recruits
mentors, and sometimes the mentors initiate the conversation to
volunteer. Some people volunteer but are not suitable and thus the
project's GSoC administrator must reject them.
Different projects have different criteria for choosing their mentors
and have different processes for orienting and starting them.
> You need not restrict to mediawiki as org, can you share your experiences
> from opensource world too.
Thank you. I'm glad I could help a little bit, but when it comes to
encouraging specifically *student* participation, I know MediaWiki best.
You are asking questions about GSoC in general that you might want to
ask Carol Smith, who runs the Google Summer of Code program and Google
Code-In, and who has access to lots of lessons learned. She is at
<carols(a)google.com>. Other resources for you to check out:
The GNOME Outreach Program for Women:
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeWomen/OutreachProgram2011
Open Source at Oregon State University: http://osuosl.org/students
Mel Chua on how to teach open source skills in college:
http://opensource.com/education/11/4/diving-open-source-communities-student…
> -- Regards Srikanth.L
best,
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Sumana Harihareswara
Volunteer Development Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation