FWIW, I'm interested in this topic as well. I'm planning on creating exactly
this sort of integration, and phpBB looks like a good tool to use. One thing
I'll be creating is a linked search - the results on the wiki will include a
forum search, and vice versa.
- MHart
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt England" <mengland(a)mengland.net>
To: "Julian Rendell" <wandering.womble(a)gmail.com>om>; "MediaWiki
announcements
and site admin list" <mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org>
Cc: <mengland(a)mengland.net>
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Forum software (e.g. phpBB or similar)integration
to replace talk pages
I'm not sure if I know the entire context of this
thread, however, I'll
give my 2 cents:
I think the entire world of discussion management mechanisms (email lists,
forums, Usenet newsgroups...and now wiki talk pages) are far too
segragated. I believe that underlying designs should have a concept of a
"vehicle-independent" conversational/discussion content (the discussion
threads) with delivery-specific mechanisms (email and forums and
newsgroups, etc).
Unfortunately, hardly anyone or anything does this...and the world goes
merrily on with all sorts of segragated conversations about the same
things but divided only because one group conversation is a newsgroup, one
is a web forum, one is a wiki, and one is a mailing list.
I have been on a short-term mission to find things that bridge the gap,
and the only thing I've been successful with thus far is
http://mail2forum.com (and its cousin named CM2F) that links email lists
(of any flavor, Mailman, ezmlm, majordomo, etc) to phpBB forums. (I tried
to get the vBulletin people to do this, but I was inexplicably rebuffed,
imho).
I would LOVE to get my MediaWiki site to "bridge" its talk pages into my
phpBB forum (and therefore my GNUMailman lists); life would be much easier
for my communities (which are currently software development groups behind
a firewall).
For the medium term (like 3 months to 2 years) I think this is feasible by
doing the
mail2forum.com kind of stuff. However, for the long term
"delivery agnostic" bridge control of discussions, I was thinking of
throwing a site together for a collaboration point for the leaders of all
the different tools and asking them to help develop a specification for
how to do this...if everyone could manage to buy in to this principle.
Who knows, maybe someone else is trying to do this...but I haven't seen
it, and I've looked a LONG time.
For now I'm at least trying to leverage
mail2forum.com. I anxiously away
anything that could integrate MediaWiki talk pages into phpBB as well.
-Matt
At 6/3/2005 04:57 PM, Julian Rendell wrote:
Hi there-
I've done some searching and seen some mock-ups, and a few hints that
people have succeeded, but does anyone have a concrete guide for how
to integrate some kind of forum software into mediawiki to replace the
talk pages?
Or I guess a second best would be the ability to easily (e.g. via
interwiki?) integrate a seperate forum site into mediawiki links, and
also an easy way to create wiki-like links in the forum posts that
link back to the wiki.
Any suggestions appreciated-
Regards
Julian
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