On 8/10/06, David Pace gps.david.pace@gmail.com wrote:
With open source, the motto is "Lead, follow, or GET OUT OF THE WAY!"
Whining and demanding is none of the above.
Again, totally agreed. My issue is just that there seems to be some resistance to certain issues and some negative attitudes on both sides of the fence. Speaking as someone who is developing Mediawiki in a corporate environment I understand the core developers have no real interest nor any obligation to support my needs. What isn't clear to me is why some seem to think the needs of developers like myself don't really have a place on this list. Perhaps this can be addressed or explained?
I've been a member of this list for quite some time, and I have to say that I've never seen that attitude expressed by the developers.
I have seen patient explanations about why mediawiki is the way it is, andhow that relates to the needs of the wikimedia foundation. I've seen helpful suggestions about how to meet user's needs.
Sometimes those helpful suggestions include looking at alternatives that might better meet the needs of, for example, corporate uses which have requirements for control which are antithetical to the goals of the organization which is footing the bill. Now that might be TAKEN as a suggestion that the folks with those requirement don't have a place on the list, but I don't think that that is the intent.