Re: [Mediawiki-l] moving wiki "root"?

Hi, Nina, and welcome to the list. This is one of my first posts, too! At the risk of being politically incorrect, I fully share your preference for short & simple URLs on my wikis. I've been using them on two wikis; one in light-duty production use for more than a year, and the other being my personal-use development wiki (both on a private corporate intranet). The particular method I've used is the one documented here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Short_URL#URL_like_-_example.com.2FPage_title The one precondition for that, and the rest of what I have to offer, is that you have full administrative access to (or at least a friendly administrator of) your DNS system, your Apache server config, and of course the wiki config itself. I'm hoping those are fair assumptions for an "academic library environment" (or most intranet settings) like you have. One step that I HIGHLY recommend, and which resolves many of the objections otherwise raised against this approach, is that you make your wiki live in a "virtual domain", so that the domain name is, by definition, the name for your wiki service alone (and NOT the name of a host, from which you might one day want to offer other (non-wiki) services). So, if you were operating a "New Media" wiki for your organization running on the "library.myorg.org" machine (maybe on the impact of new media on the very concept of a library), you might set aside a "CNAME" in your DNS of "new-media.myorg.org", and configure your Apache server running on "library.myorg.org" to serve a "virtual server" identified by that CNAME. (The CNAME can be most anything you like, as long as it doesn't collide with any other name already in use.) Then, even if you one day discover you need to move your wiki to some other machine, you have carefully and completely insulated it from the name of the underlying host machine (well, as long as your move keeps the wiki somewhere under the "myorg.org" domain). Then, when you have your "Glossary" page, the URL for it will be simply "new- media.myorg.org/Glossary" ... sweet! Oh, and as for converting a wiki that already has content, I had to do just that with my development installation (which I picked up from another guy after we'd already been putting content on it for a while). Since the method described in the link above is just a set of rewrite rules, applied by Apache and by the wiki itself, I didn't actually have to *move* any of the content at all (nor images or extensions or anything) - everything within the wiki just continued to work, under the new names. (In fact, moving any of those files will likely break things!) Of course, any links stored *external* to the wiki, like in someone's bookmarks folder, would all have to be updated. With a (relatively) young wiki, that will hopefully not be a problem. The only constraint I've noticed in operating my wikis this way is that it doesn't work to use certain special characters in a page or section title. I *think* this might be the same problem as is documented here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Short_URL#Ampersand_.28.26.29_problem Frankly, though, that hasn't been enough of a nuisance for me to even diagnose it further ... I just avoid funny characters in my titles. :-) Anyway, good luck, and I hope that helps. Let us know how it works for you. Paul On Apr 22, 2009, at 2:11 AM, McHale, Nina wrote: ______________ Paul C Lustgarten AT&T Labs - Research Florham Park, NJ +1 973 360 7206