MediaWiki-l May 2007

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Email and MediaWiki
by Mike Lane 28 May '07

28 May '07

I would just like to clarify that i need an external email server to be able to use the email functionality of MediaWiki. The reason that I ask is that I am sure that I have read somewhere that MediaWiki (once up a time) had email functionality built in? Anyway I am in the process of transferring my Wiki from WAMP on Windows to Ubuntu Server. On Ubuntu I am up to the point where I can open up a browser and point it to my "server" and get to the setup page of the Wiki. Assuming that I need to install some kind of SMTP server on Ubuntu I would like to know what you guys recommend? I do not need anything that fancy, just something that will send out emails to Wiki users - when a new page is created / updated, account created / password changed, for example. If anyone has any recommendations in terms of overhead / performance / security etc I would be most grateful. My Wiki is used at work for 10 - 15 users. Many thanks Mike _________________________________________________________________ Try Live.com: where your online world comes together - with news, sports, weather, and much more. http://www.live.com/getstarted

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Problem with Squid : purge request latency
by Ouroboros 27 May '07

27 May '07

Hi I have a problem with the purge request from MediaWiki : when it send a request to purge an image, there is a big delay (~1 seconde per image on a page oO), I have checked my Apache & Squid logs and I have found that MediaWiki try to purge a thumb of each image... but the thumb doesn't exist. I think (not sure) my problem come from the latency caused by the 404 error... but I don't know how to resolve this. Have you an idea? Squid log example (purge request for a 64x64px image - not rescale): xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - - [27/May/2007:09:56:47 +0200] "PURGE http://mydomain.tld/w/images/thumb/7/7b/Image.png/64px-Image.png HTTP/1.0" 404 109 TCP_MISS:NONE PS: sorry my english is bad - I'm french ^^

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cache control for javascript / css
by Ittay Dror 27 May '07

27 May '07

How can I change the cache control for javascript / css pages. I don't want them to have 'must-revalidate' pragma. Thanks, Ittay -- *Ittay Dror* Chief Architect, R&D, Qlusters Inc. Web: qlusters.com <http://www.qlusters.com/> Email: ittayd(a)qlusters.com <mailto:ittayd@qlusters.com> Phone: +972-3-6081994 openQRM <www.openqrm.org> - Data Center Provisioning ------ I own this number: D0E008A921FF04A9DB8C12668E4315F4. Get your own at http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com

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mediawiki installationsprobleme
by Knuffi＠Gmail 27 May '07

27 May '07

Hallo, ich bin so langsam am Verzweifeln mit meiner mediawiki Installation und hoffe, es kann mir hier jemand weiterhelfen. Gleich zu Beginn erhalte ich folgende Meldung, die verhindert, dass ich überhapt mediawiki installieren kann. > Your session save path appears to be invalid or is not writable. > PHP needs to be able to save data to this location in order for > correct session operation. Please check that session.save_path > in PHP.ini points to a valid path, and is read/write/execute for the > user your web server is running under. Laut phpinfo ist der Session Path hier: > /var/lib/php5 Die Rechte sind: > drwx-wx-wt 2 root root 1024 May 21 23:07 php5 Kann mir hier vieleicht jemand sagen wo das Problem liegt, damit ich das mediawiki installieren kann? Hatte bisher nie Probleme bei der installation und echt ratlos. :-( Liebe Grüße. Sebastian

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Upgrading from 1.6 to 1.10
by Waleed Meligy 27 May '07

27 May '07

I am trying to upgrade but the update.php script always seems to stop functioning at this line: Adding rev_len field to table revision .. note: i am using SSH to do the upgrade so, i should have no timeout issue, or should i ? Thank you for your time, Waleed A. Meligy

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Announcing Occleve - the Open Content Learning Environment
by Joe Gittings 27 May '07

27 May '07

Occleve is an open content mobile phone computer based learning (CBL) system with the tests stored in XML in a mediawiki. It's hosted on berlios at http://occleve.berlios.de/ but is also available through a redirect at http://www.pocketchinese.com An emulator-based demo of the mobile phone client is at http://occleve.berlios.de/demo.html And the wiki is at http://occleve.berlios.de/wiki/ I launched the system back in February. The mobile phone client (written in Java) connects directly to the wiki through the Internet, retrieves a list of available tests, and then allows the user to select which ones to download. Once downloaded, the tests are stored in the mobile phone's memory. As far as I know this is the first time that mediawiki has been used as: *The backend for a mobile phone application. *To store XML data rather than mediawiki-formatted text. But please correct me if I'm wrong! I live in Shanghai, China, and am learning Chinese. So at this time, the main application for Occleve is for learning and testing Mandarin Chinese vocabulary. However, there is nothing in the software which precludes it being used for other language pairs. Indeed, I have also created a test for English-Shanghainese (with audio clips), and a couple of friends have done a very small amount of work on English-Hindi and English-Korean tests. And ultimately, I'd like it to be used for other CBL subject areas too. A particular one I have in mind is for memorizing equations: this will require adding MathML rendering support to the J2ME client. The current release is 0.9.2. The forthcoming 0.9.3 release adds support for audio clips. When viewing a test, if an audio clip is available for a particular phrase, you can click a Listen button. If the clip is already in the phone's memory it will be played, otherwise it will be fetched from the wiki and saved for re-use. The clips are stored as MP3 files in the uploaded files section of the wiki. This functionality is already available if you build the client from the CVS source. The current 0.9.2 release ignores the audio clips. The audio clips will give the system a "talking phrasebook" functionality which I imagine will be appealing even to those who aren't interested in learning Chinese. After 0.9.3, the next big development will be on-phone editing and uploading of the changes directly from the phone to the wiki. I don't think this has been done before, either. A particular question I can imagine that people will have is, how does this relate to wiktionary, and doesn't it duplicate it? I think these are the important differences: *Occleve is not just about learning a language (eventually). *When used for languages, Occleve is not a dictionary. It's closer to a phrasebook. *Occleve stores its data in XML and the wiki is specifically designed to act as the backend to a CBL system. A quick look at the wiki will show that so far, I've done most of the work on this. A few Chinese friends have helped with putting Chinese characters into the tests, and recording audio clips. But PLEASE, if you like this project, get involved! Please see the to-do list on the wiki: http://occleve.berlios.de/wiki/index.php/To-do_list_and_road_map for the future developments I have in mind. In particular, I'd like to add server-side mediawiki extensions to validate the XML against the DTD, and save users from having to work directly in XML. If you have other ideas, add them to that page. The project needs volunteers both on the software development side, and the content provision side. If you're learning a language (any language), why not create a test on the vocab you're currently trying to memorize? Then you'll be able to test yourself on the bus, the train, etc... All the software is GPL-licensed, and all the content is GFDL-licensed. Sincerely, Joe Gittings

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Infoboxes
by Azurite 27 May '07

27 May '07

I'm trying to set up a system of Infoboxes for use on a few pages (with a running theme) on my Wiki, but all my searches on how to actually go about creating an Infobox are turning up nil. A Google search only revealed other Wiki's infoboxes and their Talk pages on them. I couldn't find a wiki page in the MediaWiki meta on how to do it, so I'm turning here for help. I don't think just copy-pasting the source of the infoboxes I need from Wikipedia is a good idea, as Wikipedia uses a different version of the software than me (I can only use up to 1.6.10), and there is so much syntax and other templates there in use that I'm not aware of. Does anyone have any pointers? Thanks in advance, -Azurite

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Cpanel Add on Domains and Media Wiki
by mediawiki＠wpascanner.com 26 May '07

26 May '07

>I have precisely the same setup. I have the add-on domain set to >directory - let's call it /test - and inside test I have /wiki, which >contains MediaWiki. /test is treated like public_html so put a >.htaccess file there. I have an .htaccess file there to point to the wiki using a Redirect. Redirect /index.html http://www.trunker.org/wiki/ Should it be something else? > Works for me (set the rewrite rules & >$wgScoiptPath correctly) $wgScriptPath is set to "wiki/" $wgScriptPath = "/wiki"; What rewrite rules are you using? ---- Support your LOCAL scanner frequency site and groups! http://www.wpascanner.com http://www.tampascanner.info http://www.trunker.info - Trunker support http://groups.yahoo.com/group/800_MHz_Rebanding_scanners/ - Rebanding for SCANNERS ONLY! ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.gulfcoastdish.net

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Is MediaWiki-l dysfunctional? What is it good for, really? and Re: Any leads on a basic wiki setup-and-configure instruction manual?
by Monahon, Peter B. 26 May '07

26 May '07

> Arthur wrote: I have been following this > discussion for the past few days and it > seems to be going round in circles and > getting no ware ... Peter Blaise responds: I love puns! ;-) > Arthur wrote: ... http://httpd.apache.org/, > http://www.php.net/, http://www.mysql.com/, > Finally MediaWiki ... contact the relevant > forums or mailing lists relating to the > piece of software that is causing you problems ... Peter Blaise responds: Thanks, but I'm ONLY trying to install MediaWiki (and whatever it takes to support it), so everyone says, "ask somewhere else"! Go to Apache and say, "my goal is to support MediaWiki" and they say, "ask MediaWiki!" Go to PHP and say, "my goal is to support MediaWiki, and they say, "ask MediaWiki!" And so on. What you're saying is like asking for car performance tuning help and being told, "did you ask the highway department about their road and how it's supposed to handle?" Argh! > Arthur wrote: ... Alternatively you can try > a WAMP package ... Peter Blaise responds: Thanks, but do you now of any that *include* MediaWiki ... since I'm trying to support MediaWiki? As mentioned: Cornelius Herzog's Wiki-on-WOS (WOS = Web server On a usb Stick) works just fine on Windows without admin rights, and can run from a USB flash drive or from an MS-DOS "subst" drive: http://www.chsoftware.net/en/useware/wos/wos.htm?action=download It does not require admin rights nor does it hammer the Windows registry or Windows program and system file areas. Wiki on WOS is a truly portable uber MediaWiki! However, it defaults to a single-user wiki! It requires a manually created list of IP addresses so it can be shared with more than one user, so it has a narrow audience with ongoing support requirements to expand it. In a mere 6 hours, using Wiki on WOS and Word2Wiki (see: Gunter Schmidt's and Fernando Correia 's Word2Wiki extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Word2MediaWikiPlus ), I built a working MediaWiki on it with ~500,000 words containing the entire US Trademark Manual of Examining Procedure* AND the all supporting law (see http://tess2.uspto.gov/tmdb/tmep/ ) Thanks for the confirmation of a synopsis and confirmation that you also have not found a concise, complete and accurate itemized checklist of all decisions supporting "WAMPP/MW" - Windows, Apache, MySQL, PHP, PHPMyAdmin, MediaWiki. -- Peter Blaise PS - 6 MediaWiki references at apache.org, 25 at php.net ... they don't really support each other. I was hoping MediaWiki.org would be the penultimate place to find focused, purposeful support all the appropriate choices for all the underpinnings of MediaWiki, but ...

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Looking for extension 'Edit Notification'
by Monahon, Peter B. 26 May '07

26 May '07

> Dave wrote: I am looking (have searched > but not found) for an extension that would > 'NOTIFY' the users that a page is currently > being edited if they try to go into edit mode. Hi Dave, How about a plan B - make a template that says "editing as of (date) by (name), please wait for this message to disappear before adding your own edits" and put it in the page top, then edit off line, hope for the best, and hope someone else isn't also editing off line at the same time. If you have admin rights (I know, I know, a sore subject around here!) you can lock the pave temporarily, but I think you're after a work around. Eh? Eh? Now, people can ignore and delete your warning (say, you forget to ever upload your off line edits, eh?). Are you familiar with this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Technical_FAQ#What_happens_if_two _or_more_people_are_editing_the_same_page.3F ----- What happens if two or more people are editing the same page? When the second person (and later persons) attempts to save the page mediawiki will attempt to merge their changes into the current version of the text. If the merge fails then the user will receive an "edit conflict" message, and the opportunity to merge their changes manually. The wiki will also check for a conflict if you are editing and do a preview of the edit. Multiple consecutive conflicts are noticed, and will generate a slightly different message. This is similar to Concurrent Versions System (CVS), a widely used software version management system. ----- Let us know how it goes for you. - Peter Blaise

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