MediaWiki-l May 2007

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by astrid.perree＠enst-bretagne.fr 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi everybody, I've installed mediawiki. My toolbar edit doesn't exist. I check in preferences if I put show toolbar. I test with Konqueror 3.5.5, Internet Explorer 6, iceweasel 2.0.0.2 but it doesn't works. Have you an idea ? Thank you very much for your help.

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toolbar edit ?
by astrid.perree＠enst-bretagne.fr 30 May '07

30 May '07

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Templates stop rendering mid-page on large article on WP
by HumanCell.org 30 May '07

30 May '07

In this article on wikipedia the templates stop rendering at some point during the article. Is there a limit to article size or the number of templates that is causing this? Or is it just a syntax error which has so far eluded me? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prolog_standards_compliance

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] How do we confirm any time locks between edits on MediaWiki.org?
by Monahon, Peter B. 30 May '07

30 May '07

> Gary wrote: ... What? ... I have tried and > I experienced no such restriction ... Peter Blaise responds: Thanks for checkin', Gary. What happens for me is that I just get returned to an empty editing screen when I try any second edit too soon after a previous edit. And it's not for subsequent edits to one page, it's for subsequent edits even to unrelated pages anywhere within MediaWiki.org. It's to the point now where I don't even visit MediaWiki.org but once a day even though I'm in intense MediaWiki development and I need the resources, and I am supplied with many, many links to MediaWiki.org from many people who want me to check them out (including links from within mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org). After my first contribution to MediaWiki.org each day, I seem to be locked out. Does this seem intentional and settable on someone's part, someone who wants to preemptively "calm me down"? ("I will NOT calm down!" - as spoken by the character Larry, Dharma's father, on the "Dharma and Greg" TV show). -- Peter Blaise or 151.207.242.4

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How do we confirm any time locks between edits on MediaWiki.org?
by Monahon, Peter B. 30 May '07

30 May '07

How do we confirm any time locks between subsequent edits on MediaWiki.org? I cannot seem to make 2 successive edits on MediaWiki.org. Is there someone who's set a "minimum time between edits" feature or something? How to find out and get it removed? Thanks. - Peter Blaise

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mediawiki:sitenotice
by aretai aretai 30 May '07

30 May '07

Hi, I've a problem - I'd like to put some info on most of the pages in my wiki (including the ones that are being edited). I know that it's possible with mediawiki:sitenotice - to put some info on all the pages. However I need to exclude the main page (have it clearer) and some other pages that don't require this info. Is there a way to achieve it? Thx in advance for answer Rgds, Aretai

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] hiding and sharing articles/namespaces to the public
by revansx＠cox.net 29 May '07

29 May '07

The thought of using two wiki's did occur to me and I considered doing it the same way as the various languages do (i.e. [[en.PageTitle]] for the english version versus [[fr.PageTitle]] for ther french version) and do something like [[priv.PageTitle]] and [[publ.PageTitle]] but I have no experiance doing various language wiki so the whole thing would be new to me. The biggest concern/goal is for the user's experiance to be simple and not have them need to keep track of what is where. What woudl be geat is if there is an extension that can force an update to a second wiki such that only the protected wiki would user editable and then the extention tag could be dropped in to the article to push updates to the public wiki. That would be really slick! --- Does that exist? If not...can we (the group) make it? I'll help :-) I just don't know where to start - lol - Rich (revansx) ---- Jim Wilson <wilson.jim.r(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The safest (easiest?) way I can think of is to have a separate wiki that is > decidedly public. Meaning publicly viewable (you can of course lock down > editorship however you want). > > Locking down read access to certain pages is a tough problem not solvable > with a vanilla install alone - it takes extensions to do it. There may be > extensions out there that can help you, but I'm not sure. > > -- Jim R. Wilson (jimbojw) > > On 5/29/07, revansx(a)cox.net <revansx(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > Dear mediawiki admin experts, > > > > I have a configuration goal for my installation of mediawiki that might > > technically only be a web-server related modification, but I am convinced > > that the solution (if it is even possible) will requires the advanced > > insights of this group of experts. Here's the situation: I have set-up a > > mediawiki (1.6.10) on a dedicated company server (Red Hat, Apache 2.0.52) > > which uniformly (www and intranet) limits browser accessibility to users who > > have a company username and password which they are required to provide to > > the browser in order to view the wiki articles. wiki user-accounts for > > authoring are handled by the LDAP module. This part all works great. --- The > > problem is --- that I am now being asked if it is possible to make certain > > pages "publicly" accessible and not protected behind a secure browser > > authentication against the company's domain (after we've gone to such > > excellent lengths to protect all of the content!!!) I am being asked if > > specific articles and/or all of the articles in certain namespace can be > > made to be an exception to our global restrictions on who can "see" the > > articles. A specific example is the "Main Page" and any of the User's pages. > > So, does anyone know how to configure a mediawiki such that "some" pages > > require secure browser authentication even just to see them? If so, the > > ideal solution would behave such that new pages are created inaccessible > > from the public by default. --- sincerest thanks all. - Rich (revansx) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] CSS and Common.js
by mk10＠cec.wustl.edu 29 May '07

29 May '07

John, Go to the page MediaWiki:Common.js on your wiki. If you have not edited this page, it will be blank and you will have to add content to it. The page is used to add features to every page on your wiki, in your case the navFrame feature. Just create the page and it will work. Mark Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:44:00 -0400 From: "Getzke, John" <jgetzke(a)ptc.com> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] CSS and Common.js To: <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <B0D4682CF6F84041AC7C42AA6E9E8133070F37CB(a)HQ-MAIL3.ptcnet.ptc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello, Does anyone know how to add the navFrame Feature listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NAVFRAME It claims that you need the commmon.js file but I cannont find it anywhere. Are we supposed to create one from scratch? If so where do we put it and what is the correct way to link it up? Also, I have received requests for css support. Some of my co-workers would like to be able to use css classes like the wikitable mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table. We are currently using a custom version of the monoskin layout. Where can I go to add these new css classes? Thanks, John Getzke

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CSS and Common.js
by Getzke, John 29 May '07

29 May '07

Hello, Does anyone know how to add the navFrame Feature listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NAVFRAME It claims that you need the commmon.js file but I cannont find it anywhere. Are we supposed to create one from scratch? If so where do we put it and what is the correct way to link it up? Also, I have received requests for css support. Some of my co-workers would like to be able to use css classes like the wikitable mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table. We are currently using a custom version of the monoskin layout. Where can I go to add these new css classes? Thanks, John Getzke -----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of mediawiki-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:33 PM To: mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 44, Issue 82 Send MediaWiki-l mailing list submissions to mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mediawiki-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at mediawiki-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of MediaWiki-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Removing Features (Ivan Lanin) 2. Re: Any leads on a basic wiki setup-and-configure instruction manual? (Arthur Guy) 3. how to control edit of certain pages (Amitrajit Chatterjee) 4. Re: how to control edit of certain pages (Simon Dorfman) 5. Re: Markdown (Ian Smith) 6. Re: Removing Features (G. Carter) 7. duplicating an installation (Hiram Clawson) 8. Re: RSS and DynamicPageList Clash (mk10(a)cec.wustl.edu) 9. Re: duplicating an installation (Ian Smith) 10. Re: Removing Features (Gary Kirk) 11. Re: efficiently adding javascript / css to page header (Brion Vibber) 12. hiding and sharing articles/namespaces to the public (revansx(a)cox.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 22:36:20 +0700 From: "Ivan Lanin" <ivanlanin(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Removing Features To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <486a1b950705290836u5cd72cc1q439850452a207fbf(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 5/29/07, G. Carter <gcarter2000(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Can someone tell me how I can remove the 'Donations' link and the 'Edit' > functionality on the Main Page? * Configure the sidebar to remove the 'Donations' link or any other link that you don't want. See: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Navigation_bar * You can "protect" a page to stop unauthorized visitors to edit the page. See: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Administration#Protection Ivan Lanin ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:44:02 +0100 From: "Arthur Guy" <Arthur(a)assys.net> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Any leads on a basic wiki setup-and-configure instruction manual? To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <AC0F2AA79B08DB4CBB45EBADE0ED0A64039D5A(a)zeus.assys.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I thought you had set it up already, why do you need more instructions? Generally people ask specific questions such as how do I change the logo or how do it protect a specific page and they will get an answer or a link to an answer, I think your problem is you are asking a very vague question. By now you must have realised there isn't a complete set of instruction to your standards, rather specific articles on how to accomplish a specific task, perhaps you can try re-asking you question in this form? Arthur Guy arthur(a)assys.net -----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Monahon, Peter B. Sent: 29 May 2007 15:41 To: mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Any leads on a basic wiki setup-and-configure instruction manual? > Arthur wrote: ... So you have Apache, PHP, MySQL and MediaWiki > working; what are you having problems with? Peter Blaise responds: I'm having problems finding any leads on a basic wiki setup-and-configure instruction manual. Message scanned for viruses by Sophos PureMessage ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 09:30:08 -0700 From: Amitrajit Chatterjee <amitrajit.chatterjee(a)csueastbay.edu> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] how to control edit of certain pages To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <5E9F084BF4F64042BCB43957FFD12317617094(a)ADHAYEXC00V1.ad.csueastbay.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I was wondering if it is possible to restrict edit of certain pages to a certain group of people while allowing edit of all the other pages to whoever signs up. The "Protect" tab seems to be only for administrators. Thanks, Amit ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:35:32 -0500 From: Simon Dorfman <emaillists(a)simondorfman.com> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] how to control edit of certain pages To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <C281C084.30527%emaillists(a)simondorfman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Amit, This page should have details on how to do that: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access Simon On 5/29/07 11:30 AM, "Amitrajit Chatterjee" <amitrajit.chatterjee(a)csueastbay.edu> wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering if it is possible to restrict edit of certain pages to > a certain group of people while allowing edit of all the other pages > to whoever signs up. The "Protect" tab seems to be only for administrators. > > Thanks, > Amit > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Smith <johantheghost(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Markdown To: MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <225271.51242.qm(a)web53204.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Jim, On 5/27/07 12:42 PM, "Jim Wilson" <wilson.jim.r(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Without going into too much detail, the current implementation of > ExtendedSyntaxParser, while operating fine by itself, is not amicable > to running along side certain other kinds of extensions. It's > something that I've wanted to revisit, but haven't had time to do so > just yet. Since I wrote TabbedData, I'm wondering what the incompatibility is? Is there something I can change in TabbedData to make this work? BTW, the UsenetSyntax page makes no mention of requiring ExtendedSyntaxParser, and I can't find it on mw.org... where do I get it? Ian ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:11:16 -0600 From: "G. Carter" <gcarter2000(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Removing Features To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <962aa9230705291011q4ec16696j3aa04b879f459ae9(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Looks like I need to edit 'MediaWiki:Sidebar' to remove 'sitesupport'. However, this is protected. How do I access? Thanks On 5/29/07, Ivan Lanin <ivanlanin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/29/07, G. Carter <gcarter2000(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Can someone tell me how I can remove the 'Donations' link and the 'Edit' > > functionality on the Main Page? > > * Configure the sidebar to remove the 'Donations' link or any other > link that you don't want. See: > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Navigation_bar > * You can "protect" a page to stop unauthorized visitors to edit the > page. See: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Administration#Protection > > Ivan Lanin > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:13:53 -0700 From: Hiram Clawson <hiram(a)soe.ucsc.edu> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] duplicating an installation To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <465C5F51.70407(a)soe.ucsc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Good Morning MediaWiki Fans: I know I can export to xml and import that xml to make a copy of the contents of a media wiki. How about copying all the user data too, in order to make a fully functional duplicate of a media wiki installation ? Can I simply copy the database tables: _user, _user_groups, _user_newtalk to replicate the user business too ? Or are there other tables involved with the user accounts ? Thanks for your assistance, --Hiram ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 12:19:43 -0500 (CDT) From: mk10(a)cec.wustl.edu Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] RSS and DynamicPageList Clash To: mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: <1992.128.252.167.214.1180459183.squirrel(a)hilton.cec.wustl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 the URL for the wiki is http://datafedwiki.wustl.edu and the pages that have the problems are Consoles, 2006-09-22:Wiki Use Discussion, 2007-02-24: Atmospheric Aerosols - Tools, Methods, and 2006-03-07: netCDF, CF, ncML, GML, WCS. The error is not in rss_fetch, it is actually in rss_parse still on line 404. Thanks, Mark ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:35:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Smith <johantheghost(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] duplicating an installation To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <435130.61380.qm(a)web53204.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 --- Hiram Clawson <hiram(a)soe.ucsc.edu> wrote: > Good Morning MediaWiki Fans: > > I know I can export to xml and import that xml to make a copy of the > contents of a media wiki. How about copying all the user data too, in > order to make a fully functional duplicate of a media wiki > installation ? This should help: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki Ian ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:09:55 +0100 From: "Gary Kirk" <gary.kirk(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Removing Features To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <8731ce350705291109m61bbc9e1se4e957392be6dc62(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Log in with a sysop account such as the one you created during installation. On 29/05/07, G. Carter <gcarter2000(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Looks like I need to edit 'MediaWiki:Sidebar' to remove 'sitesupport'. > However, this is protected. How do I access? > > Thanks > > > On 5/29/07, Ivan Lanin <ivanlanin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 5/29/07, G. Carter <gcarter2000(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Can someone tell me how I can remove the 'Donations' link and the 'Edit' > > > functionality on the Main Page? > > > > * Configure the sidebar to remove the 'Donations' link or any other > > link that you don't want. See: > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Navigation_bar > > * You can "protect" a page to stop unauthorized visitors to edit the > > page. See: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Administration#Protection > > > > Ivan Lanin > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MediaWiki-l mailing list > > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > -- Gary Kirk ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:32:38 -0400 From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] efficiently adding javascript / css to page header To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <465C71C6.4010304(a)wikimedia.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ittay Dror wrote: > I see two addHeadItems: > > includes/OutputPage.php: function addHeadItem( $name, $value ) { > includes/ParserOutput.php: function addHeadItem( $section, $tag = > false ) { > > > which one should i use? The one on the output of the parser object that was passed to your hook. This will record it in the parser cache record for later output. I'm not sure this is the most stable api ever, though, it feels a little weird to me. :) But here's an example in the SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi extension: $parser->mOutput->addHeadItem( "<style type=\"text/css\">/*<![CDATA[*/\n" . ".source-$lang {line-height: normal;}\n" . ".source-$lang li {line-height: normal;}\n" . $geshi->get_stylesheet( false ) . "/*]]>*/</style>\n$sitecss", "source-$lang" ); The first parameter is the actual HTML fragment you want to output. The second is optional, and is a section keyword which should be unique to your extension -- if you try to add two head sections with the same key, only the last one will be output. This avoids duplicate output when your hook is used more than once in the same page. You should be sure that they really will be equivalent in this case; if you output something different on each call, maybe you do want to output it multiple times. - -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGXHHGwRnhpk1wk44RArQ+AJ9qCAeZEn4ag3i8bbyoPx12myOKnwCglxUY jIZYjJ0nTIUhTxrHcLZ3o+Q= =VQgh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:33:06 -0400 From: <revansx(a)cox.net> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] hiding and sharing articles/namespaces to the public To: Forum - MediaWiki-l <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Message-ID: <26058728.1180463586927.JavaMail.root@eastrmwml11> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear mediawiki admin experts, I have a configuration goal for my installation of mediawiki that might technically only be a web-server related modification, but I am convinced that the solution (if it is even possible) will requires the advanced insights of this group of experts. Here's the situation: I have set-up a mediawiki (1.6.10) on a dedicated company server (Red Hat, Apache 2.0.52) which uniformly (www and intranet) limits browser accessibility to users who have a company username and password which they are required to provide to the browser in order to view the wiki articles. wiki user-accounts for authoring are handled by the LDAP module. This part all works great. --- The problem is --- that I am now being asked if it is possible to make certain pages "publicly" accessible and not protected behind a secure browser authentication against the company's domain (after we've gone to such excellent lengths to protect all of the content!!!) I am being asked if specific articles and/or all of the articles in certain namespace can be made to be an exception to our global restrictions on who can "see" the articles. A specific example is the "Main Page" and any of the User's pages. So, does anyone know how to configure a mediawiki such that "some" pages require secure browser authentication even just to see them? If so, the ideal solution would behave such that new pages are created inaccessible from the public by default. --- sincerest thanks all. - Rich (revansx) ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l End of MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 44, Issue 82 *******************************************

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efficiently adding javascript / css to page header
by Ittay Dror 29 May '07

29 May '07

Hi, I've written some tags that require javascript packages. Naturally, I want to link to them in the <head> section. The only way I know how to do it now is to add a hook to 'BeforePageDisplay'. The problem is that then I don't know whether the page actually uses the tag, so a lot of javascript references are added to pages that don't use the tags (and even with caching, the browser needs to validate). If I add the js reference from inside the tag handler, then it is not added when the content is cached. So, is there a way of better associating javascript with a page? Thanks, Ittay -- *Ittay Dror* Chief Architect, R&D, Qlusters Inc. Web: qlusters.com <http://www.qlusters.com/> Email: ittayd(a)qlusters.com <mailto:ittayd@qlusters.com> Phone: +972-3-6081994 openQRM <www.openqrm.org> - Data Center Provisioning ------ I own this number: D0E008A921FF04A9DB8C12668E4315F4. Get your own at http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com

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