MediaWiki-l March 2006

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Saving a page, much later
by Vasiliadis, Thomas 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

Do you work with authentification? Maybe your Session was terminatet by timeout or similar things -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von laurent Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. März 2006 16:19 An: mediawiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org Betreff: [Mediawiki-l] Saving a page, much later Hi, Users of mine are running into a problematic situation where a page is left in "edit" mode for several hours. At the end of the day they press "Save" and instead of directly saving, the page shows up a preview. Users have checked the "Remember me" box so that login shouldn't be an issue here. Any ideas? Apache/debien/mediawiki server, firefox/windowsxp clients. Thanks Laurent _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Saving a page, much later
by Arthur Guy 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

I have found sessions time out if left for a while, the remember me thing uses a cookie to log you in again when you move to another page, this is obviously happening after the save process. You may be able to adjust your php.ini file to increase the timeouts, or I may be completely wrong about the whole process? Arthur arthur(a)assys.net -----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of laurent Sent: 29 March 2006 15:39 To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Saving a page, much later Vasiliadis, Thomas wrote: > Do you work with authentification? > Maybe your Session was terminatet by timeout or similar things > I assumed that since "Remember me" is selected, sessions would not timeout. When the user presses the save button, a preview is displayed. Just clicking save again will save the page without requiring a login... So I wonder, what happens if someone else modified the same page during the day? Would the preview show the changes of both users? Would the middle user lose its changes? jdd wrote: > this is a bad idea, but it happens to me also :-( I understand. I try to teach my users not to do that, but sometimes it's more of a matter of writing a page, being distracted for several hours, then coming back to the computer and going "Woah, i should finish writing this." Is there a mechanism in mediawiki to deal with such things? Does mediawiki check if changes have occured so that a conflict would occur and request the user to "merge" his own page along with the other page? Regards, Laurent _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Automatic changing of many articles
by Vasiliadis, Thomas 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

Thank you, I was using google in german, but maybee I have to do it in english in future. TV -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von wilinckx Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. März 2006 14:01 An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Automatic changing of many articles On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:14:43 +0200 "Vasiliadis, Thomas" <T.Vasiliadis(a)schlemmerblock.de> wrote: > > >>> I fount the PythonMediaWikiBot, but I can only use PHP or Pearl. > > > >>Keep in mind that pywikipediabot is a client-side program suite: it > >>does not run on the web server, but on your own computer; it > >>connects to the server over HTTP just as your web browser does. > > >I will take a second look at pywikipediabot > > OK, I have installed Phyton on my client and now I am trying to > understand how I modify the Scripts to get acces to my Wiki and not to > modify Wikipedia with my garbage. > I found the config file (user-config.py) but I do not now, how to tell > the script to login to my server or how the name of my server ist. > I haven't found a tutorial either. At least no one which I am able to > understand (it is my first time using Pyton and I only want the Bots > running over my Wiki) > > Have anybody a suggestion where I can find a tutorial for bloody > newbees?? A quick Google gave me this link: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_the_python_wikipediabot and this one: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pywikipedia_bot_on_non-wikimedia_projects Wilinckx. _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Automatic changing of many articles
by Vasiliadis, Thomas 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

>>> I fount the PythonMediaWikiBot, but I can only use PHP or Pearl. >>Keep in mind that pywikipediabot is a client-side program suite: it >>does not run on the web >>server, but on your own computer; it connects to the server over HTTP >>just as your web browser >>does. >I will take a second look at pywikipediabot OK, I have installed Phyton on my client and now I am trying to understand how I modify the Scripts to get acces to my Wiki and not to modify Wikipedia with my garbage. I found the config file (user-config.py) but I do not now, how to tell the script to login to my server or how the name of my server ist. I haven't found a tutorial either. At least no one which I am able to understand (it is my first time using Pyton and I only want the Bots running over my Wiki) Have anybody a suggestion where I can find a tutorial for bloody newbees?? Thanks a lot TV

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Focus on the search field
by Vasiliadis, Thomas 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

OK, I think I won't do such a thing :-) Thank you for ure time TV -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Brion Vibber Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. März 2006 12:31 An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Focus on the search field Vasiliadis, Thomas wrote: > Hi, > > is there any way to set the focus on the search field, so that if I > open the Wikistartpage, I can write in the search field without use > the mouse first such is it solved by google. Although MediaWiki includes a search tool, it is a *wiki*, not a search engine. Setting focus to the search field would: * destroy keyboard navigation * destroy the ability to use fragment links to jump to sections * generally be very annoying 99% of the time If for some reason you insist on doing this, you can just slip in some JavaScript. There are numerous JavaScript references on the web. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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What is the wpSummary for ?
by chris2fr 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

If I fill out the wpSummary field, nothing seems to be done with it. What is this feild for ?

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Automatic changing of many articles
by Vasiliadis, Thomas 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

Vasiliadis, Thomas wrote: > Hi there, >First, upgrade to the current release (now 1.5.8) IMMEDIATELY! I'll do :-) >> I fount the PythonMediaWikiBot, but I can only use PHP or Pearl. >What's wrong with Python? Have you signed some contract forbidding the execution of programs >written in Python or something? >Keep in mind that pywikipediabot is a client-side program suite: it does not run on the web >server, but on your own computer; it connects to the server over HTTP just as your web browser >does. That was my fault, I thaugt I have to install this on my Server I will take a second look at pywikipediabot By TV

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Focus on the search field
by Vasiliadis, Thomas 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

Hi, is there any way to set the focus on the search field, so that if I open the Wikistartpage, I can write in the search field without use the mouse first such is it solved by google. Thank you all. TV

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Automatic changing of many articles
by Vasiliadis, Thomas 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

Hi there, Is there any way to modify a lot of articels in a mediaWiki 1.5.3 which does not contain Phyton? I fount the PythonMediaWikiBot, but I can only use PHP or Pearl. I took a lock in the Database, but the artikels aren't in plain text but in Blobs. Is it possible to modify them? Any suggestion would be greate! Thanx TV

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Any update on URL case-sensitivity?
by Matt England 29 Mar '06

29 Mar '06

Any update on URL case-sensitivity? For what it's worth: Is it simple to make LocalSettings variable that says something along the lines of: CaseInsensitiveURLs = disabled # default If "enabled," it makes someone typing in the URL from some other reference make sure they always hit the wiki page regardless of case...and the URL-to-page-title-page-matching mechanisms essentially uses what is available in the "Go" field right now wrt case-insensitive page discovery. (I currently co-admin a MW 1.4.0 server...and yes I know we are woefully behind. We are currently in the process of migrating to a set of MW 1.5.x servers.) For what it's worth, we have converted my entire company over to wiki usage, and many of us type in the URLs by hand to save time having to go to "Go" field and type it in there...and every day I grumble about not having case-insensitive URL matching. If someone can point me to the best place to change this code to support this, I might try my hand at it myself...if it's not already implemented. -Matt >Brion Vibber brion at pobox.com >Tue Sep 20 19:32:28 UTC 2005 >Re: [Mediawiki-l] Where can I read about the URL case-sensitivity debate? > >Matt England wrote: > > I'm sure this has been debated many times, so I simply ask: > > > > Where's the best place to read about the current state of affairs with > > respect case sensitivity for MW URLs? > >There is no support for case-insensitive titles at this time. > >It may be added some day in the future, requiring database changes to >move case-normalized titles out into another table and provide proper >matching. > >-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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