Exactly my point. I suspect that the addition of a line referring to the current controversy, where the hashtag #IdiotKapilSibal has been trending, and to quote some of the numbers over time during this crisis, would not be out of place.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:29 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucherian@gmail.comwrote:
Adding "Kapil Sibal is an idiot" on the Wikipedia article is vandalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibal&action=historysubm...
Addling "verifiable facts" is acceptable ( including controversies and criticism"
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kapil_Sibal&action=historysubm...
Hope I clarified the difference.
Regards Tinu Cherian
P.S. On a lighter note, Please feel to add "Kapil Sibal is an idiot" , if you can provide/prove that with "Verifiable references" from "Reliable Sources" :)
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcrishna@radiophony.comwrote:
Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important.
Is reporting the fact that major websites like Kafila.org and literally hundreds or thousands of Twitter users are tweeting the hashtag #IdiotKapilSibal wrong, in that case?
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, CherianTinu Abraham < tinucherian@gmail.com> wrote:
On a related note, this has appeared on *The Economic Times* :
" Five reasons why India can't censor the Internet"
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/internet/five-reasons-why-india-can...
"*Yes, Internet content has the permanence and public-impact potential that a phone call does not, but equally, it lends itself brilliantly to self-regulation. *
*3. Peer review works: Wikipedia is the best example. Who could have imagined that a user-created encyclopedia could be so objective, and comprehensive? Yes, anyone can go in and edit anything (barring entries like "Kapil Sibal", which have been locked due to vandalism!). *
*If you make an inappropriate change, someone will come in and correct it.* "
Regards Tinu Cherian
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
This is basically restriction of freedom of expression and it will hurt Wikipedia much more than it hurts Twitter or Facebook.
On 07/12/2011, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 12:06, Achal Prabhala aprabhala@gmail.com
wrote:
fyi
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants
to
Censor social Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:02:10 +0530 From: Achal Prabhala aprabhala@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List < foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
I just want to write that there was a community member who seemed to
be of
the notion ImageFilter is the technical fix for what Kapil Sibal is proposing(without probably understanding / knowing much) and
connecting the
two distinct things. Yes Sibal showed some images as examples for his support, but what Sibal means is much more and prescreening of every
byte
of user generated content. Please tell that member that linking up 2 different things is not a good idea. ImageFilter needs to be
discussed with
its own merits / demerits and this thing that Sibal proposes means
much
more than images.
If at all the legislation comes and is being enforced, I think
Wikimedia
projects are better equipped *technically* than other social media
sites
cited to support the local laws(so that we need not be banned if that
goes
to that extreme) with a combination of ImageFilter / FlaggedRevisions
and
some more customizations, but thats not where we would like to go. Community is already not so strong and needs support, there is so
much work
to do in increasing content, censorship will cripple Indian community
if
such a thing happens.
There are many questions that the communities need to decide as to
submit
to Indian laws (if at all they come through) and I hope the situation
does
not arise for us to take those tough calls.
PS : I would not like to post / join foundation-l myself since it has
high
SNR IMO.
-- Regards Srikanth.L
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