Hi Rich,
I agree that being able to use an image-as-map makes a lot of sense, and it
surprised me how little usage it got when it was still a feature, and how
little discussion it got afterward. Nonetheless, that's how it went.
Whatever the benefits or drawbacks of another extension coming in and
providing this functionality, I doubt it'll happen, given the track record.
:)
It actually would be fairly easy to add this feature back in, I think...
you would just need to add a parameter like "image layer=" to the relevant
tags in Page Forms, Cargo and/or Maps (ideally all three), which would use
the functionality that already exists in OpenLayers and Leaflet. It might
not take more than a few hours, actually, depending on how complicated the
APIs are. But this looks pretty simple, for example:
So who knows, maybe your request would be enough to kickstart this feature.
Unrelated to that, it's also great that you're interested in the business
process management stuff I mentioned on the mailing list before. I'm still
very interested in adding functionality for that, but we'll see how it
goes. Thanks!
-Yaron
On Sat, Jun 8, 2019 at 9:05 AM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) <
richard.k.evans(a)nasa.gov> wrote:
Hi Yaron, thanks for responding and great insights as
usual. These are
times I wish I had more programming experience.. I’d enthusiastically take
on the task of bringing points data entry and query back to page forms. For
us Enterprise MW users I would argue that this feature is essential in
every enterprise application whether people know it or not, ha ha.. Being
able to quickly graphically annotate an image of parking lot or an exit
plan or a Road closure .. These are Basic enterprise applications.
I would think you would want to recover this capability in page Foms just
to keep all such data collection under one extension. Otherwise some lesser
extension will come along and try to do it.
If you do decide to include this in page forms, do you have any thoughts
on How many hours of effort to implement?
I’m not sure which I’m more excited about, the prospect of internal maps
added to page forms or the project management extension that you mentioned
not too long ago. Please don’t ever underestimate your contribution to the
enterprise world. It’s amazing. You really have done and continue to do
great work.
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On: 07 June 2019 18:03, "Yaron Koren" <yaron(a)wikiworks.com> wrote:
Hi Rich,
It should be noted that the use of images as maps comprises two parts:
entering the data, and viewing the data. I don't believe either one is
currently possible, though I could be wrong. For data entry, I think the
easiest way to add support for it would be to modify either the
"openlayers" or "leaflet" input types in Page Forms to allow for
using an
uploaded image as the map - both OpenLayers and Leaflet inherently allow
for such a thing. And for viewing the data - Semantic MediaWiki has a
"leaflet" result format (via the Maps extension), while Cargo has an
"openlayers" format. Both could similarly be modified to allow for
displaying query results on an uploaded image.
It should be noted that, about ten years ago, both entry and viewing of
image-based maps were possible, via the extensions then called Semantic
Maps and Semantic Forms. This is one of those features that just stopped
being supported, due I guess to lack of interest. Which is too bad, because
it does seem useful for a lot of different applications. But it never
really got usage before. Maybe now is a good time to bring this feature
back, if enough people show an interest in it.
I should also note that there's an extension called Semantic Image
Annotator:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Image_Annotator
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It lets you both add and query data, but the data it deals with is
rectangles on an image and not points, so it may not be what you're looking
for. Maybe it's fine, though.
-Yaron
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 PM Evans, Richard K. (GRC-H000) via
Semediawiki-user <semediawiki- <semediawiki-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net>
user(a)lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
Happy Friday - What extension is best for
annotating interior floor plans
and user maps uploaded as images?
Is anyone doing this? What do people here recommend?
I've been trying to learn how to use the "Maps" extension [1] but it's
not clear to me if custom interior maps are possible with Maps.
OpenLayers [2] and Cargo [3] look promising but I don't know how to get
started with them for custom interior maps. I dive in and learn it if I
knew upfront that they had the capability. Can anyone tell me what they're
doing?
/Rich
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:OpenLayers
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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo
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