[MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

Jan Steinman Jan at EcoReality.org
Fri Dec 4 19:52:22 UTC 2015


I'm not exactly a "noob", but I haven't kept up with PHP changes -- what is running is running, so why change?

So I was just punting on the "how long will it take to upgrade?" question. (I said "More than an hour", because just finding out the impact will take that long!)

So what exactly is the expected impact of upgrading PHP 5.3.8 to 5.5 or greater? (Note: I'm now officially in that "more than an hour" of upgrading.)

Having been stung by various upgrades over the years, I tend to not touch stuff that isn't broken. I'm running several MediaWiki sites between 1.13 and 1.16. I'd sorta like to upgrade, but I don't know what that buys me, and y'know, they're all working... :-)

Jan

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>   1. What PHP version do you use? (Tim Starling)
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> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 12:25:41 +1100
> From: Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org>
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> Subject: [MediaWiki-l] What PHP version do you use?
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> If you manage a MediaWiki instance, please tell us what PHP version
> you use, and some other relevant information, by filling out this form:
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> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Z-io754bUxVujh100D4xvIwkiBIFk9Ef0j4TYrJ2zMc/viewform>
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> You may have seen on wikitech-l that there is some controversy over
> whether we should require PHP 5.5 in the next major release of
> MediaWiki. I made this little survey in the interests of gathering
> some extra data to support our decision, beyond what we already have
> from WikiApiary.
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> -- Tim Starling
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 20:54:35 -0500
> From: Bill Traynor <btraynor at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] What PHP version do you use?
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> Can we fill it out multiple times if we run manage more than one instance?
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> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> If you manage a MediaWiki instance, please tell us what PHP version
>> you use, and some other relevant information, by filling out this form:
>> 
>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Z-io754bUxVujh100D4xvIwkiBIFk9Ef0j4TYrJ2zMc/viewform>
>> 
>> You may have seen on wikitech-l that there is some controversy over
>> whether we should require PHP 5.5 in the next major release of
>> MediaWiki. I made this little survey in the interests of gathering
>> some extra data to support our decision, beyond what we already have
>> from WikiApiary.
>> 
>> You don't need to log in to fill out the form, and no personal
>> information will be forwarded to us.
>> 
>> -- Tim Starling
>> 
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> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 14:34:45 +1100
> From: Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org>
> To: mediawiki-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] What PHP version do you use?
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> Good question. I'm most interested in the amount of work it will take
> to upgrade PHP, so if you manage a hundred identical servers and will
> upgrade them all in bulk, then you shouldn't submit the form more than
> once, because that would be overrepresentative. But if you consult on
> several completely separate systems, each with their own quirks and
> dependencies, then I suppose it makes sense to submit the form more
> than once.
> 
> I've added a checkbox to the form so that you can tell us if you are
> submitting it more than once.
> 
> -- Tim Starling
> 
> On 04/12/15 12:54, Bill Traynor wrote:
>> Can we fill it out multiple times if we run manage more than one instance?
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Tim Starling <tstarling at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>> If you manage a MediaWiki instance, please tell us what PHP version
>>> you use, and some other relevant information, by filling out this form:
>>> 
>>> <https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Z-io754bUxVujh100D4xvIwkiBIFk9Ef0j4TYrJ2zMc/viewform>
>>> 
>>> You may have seen on wikitech-l that there is some controversy over
>>> whether we should require PHP 5.5 in the next major release of
>>> MediaWiki. I made this little survey in the interests of gathering
>>> some extra data to support our decision, beyond what we already have
>>> from WikiApiary.
>>> 
>>> You don't need to log in to fill out the form, and no personal
>>> information will be forwarded to us.
>>> 
>>> -- Tim Starling
>>> 
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