Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has pending requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing, open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions go by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
-
Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
-
This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT), simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers, percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. This helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two solutions (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week).
What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional and national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one contact through another.
(My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation.
From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building exercises,
it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia as a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly concentrated yet a very niche community)
-
(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request page, why not India?
Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally science and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few lay people really know their culture or feel as passionately about conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a large communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art spaces, have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual pilots (Sumanna)
-
Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’?
Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if there were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent local meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller goals and activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates.
-
How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based interactions?
Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach coordinator. Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM, tools, updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a talk or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of mouth, social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a loyal reader, enthusiast base.
-
What tools are used to digitize artifacts?
Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to move GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad
-
Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects are about?
Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to recruit new Wikimedians
Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement together.
-
Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup?
Go to institutions and say how can we help you
Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that you get focused group
Organize a fb group and event
Is there a monthly update?
Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position
Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English community members
Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM are intricately connected.
Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of course, mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved in a community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a need to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies.
These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about criticism, like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses!
Warmly
Noopur
hi,
Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that we need to foster more in the Indian community. There are people on this mailing list who are interested in participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and participate in the conversation.
warm regards, Pradeep
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has pending requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing, open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions go by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT), simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers, percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of. This helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two solutions (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week).
What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional and national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one contact through another.
(My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation. From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building exercises, it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia as a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly concentrated yet a very niche community)
(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request page, why not India?
Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally science and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few lay people really know their culture or feel as passionately about conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a large communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art spaces, have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual pilots (Sumanna)
Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’?
Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if there were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent local meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller goals and activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates.
How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based interactions?
Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach coordinator. Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM, tools, updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a talk or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of mouth, social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a loyal reader, enthusiast base.
What tools are used to digitize artifacts?
Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to move GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad
Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects are about?
Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to recruit new Wikimedians
Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement together.
Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup?
Go to institutions and say how can we help you
Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that you get focused group
Organize a fb group and event
Is there a monthly update?
Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position
Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English community members
Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM are intricately connected.
Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of course, mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved in a community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a need to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies.
These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about criticism, like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses!
Warmly
Noopur
-- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
Hey Pradeep and the rest of you,
What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously, every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk more about that :) Warmly Noopur
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that we need to foster more in the Indian community. There are people on this mailing list who are interested in participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and participate in the conversation.
warm regards, Pradeep
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So,
most
of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has
pending
requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing, open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions
go
by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT), simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers, percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of.
This
helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two
solutions
(get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week).
What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional
and
national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one
contact
through another.
(My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation. From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building
exercises,
it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia
as
a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly concentrated yet a very niche community)
(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request page, why not India?
Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally
science
and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few
lay
people really know their culture or feel as passionately about conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a large communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art spaces, have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual pilots (Sumanna)
Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’?
Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if there were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent local meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller goals
and
activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates.
How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based interactions?
Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach coordinator. Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM,
tools,
updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a
talk
or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of
mouth,
social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a loyal reader, enthusiast base.
What tools are used to digitize artifacts?
Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to move GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad
Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects are about?
Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to
recruit
new Wikimedians
Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement together.
Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup?
Go to institutions and say how can we help you
Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that you
get
focused group
Organize a fb group and event
Is there a monthly update?
Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position
Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English community members
Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM
are
intricately connected.
Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of course, mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved in a community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a need to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies.
These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about criticism, like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses!
Warmly
Noopur
-- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
-- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save it on Wiki.
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Pradeep and the rest of you,
What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously, every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk more about that :) Warmly Noopur
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that we need to foster more in the Indian community. There are people on this mailing list who are interested in participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and participate in the conversation.
warm regards, Pradeep
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So,
most
of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has
pending
requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing, open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions
go
by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT), simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers, percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of.
This
helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two
solutions
(get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week).
What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional
and
national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one
contact
through another.
(My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation. From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building
exercises,
it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia
as
a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly concentrated yet a very niche community)
(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request page, why not India?
Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally
science
and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few
lay
people really know their culture or feel as passionately about conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a large communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art spaces, have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual pilots (Sumanna)
Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’?
Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if there were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent local meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller goals
and
activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates.
How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based interactions?
Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach coordinator. Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM,
tools,
updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a
talk
or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of
mouth,
social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a loyal reader, enthusiast base.
What tools are used to digitize artifacts?
Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to move GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad
Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects are about?
Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to
recruit
new Wikimedians
Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement together.
Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup?
Go to institutions and say how can we help you
Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that you
get
focused group
Organize a fb group and event
Is there a monthly update?
Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position
Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English community members
Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM
are
intricately connected.
Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of course, mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved in a community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a need to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies.
These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about criticism, like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses!
Warmly
Noopur
-- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
-- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
-- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
Hello all :) I am glad you liked it and yes, I will post updates on the page. I am in talks with someone from a relatively big museum but am taking it carefully because these things, as you know, are very delicate. I might require the chapter's support and preferably someone from the chapter or foundation who is in Delhi. This will be sometime in January first week. SO, I urge you all to stick around AND, most importantly speak up.
I only see a couple of names over and over and I am sure there are more people who agree or disagree. *Also, if you guys from the chapter saw the bit on regular meet-ups, do consider a zonal organisation for India as a community. Everyone kept asking me how this big a country manages to have a single chapter for all. Let's make nodal points and have newsletters or updates. I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * Warmly Noopur
PS. (thanks Srikanth R. and Arjuna :) )
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save it on Wiki.
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Pradeep and the rest of you,
What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture
of
good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very
seriously,
every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk more about that :) Warmly Noopur
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that we need to foster more in the Indian community. There are people on this mailing list who are interested in participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and participate in the conversation.
warm regards, Pradeep
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So,
most
of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I
am
grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in
each
session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has
pending
requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata
sharing,
open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that
institutions
go
by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or
commons
is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not
hard
either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations
(PPT),
simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple
numbers,
percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness
of
‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of.
This
helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two
solutions
(get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week).
What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is
also
someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki
loves
monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional
and
national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as
a
fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at
least
train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one
contact
through another.
(My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in
orientation.
From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building
exercises,
it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing
Wikipedia
as
a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly concentrated yet a very niche community)
(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request page, why not India?
Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally
science
and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged,
few
lay
people really know their culture or feel as passionately about conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a
large
communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art
spaces,
have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual pilots (Sumanna)
Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’?
Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if
there
were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent
local
meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller
goals
and
activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates.
How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based interactions?
Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach
coordinator.
Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM,
tools,
updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a
talk
or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of
mouth,
social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a loyal reader, enthusiast base.
What tools are used to digitize artifacts?
Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to
move
GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad
Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects are about?
Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to
recruit
new Wikimedians
Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement together.
Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup?
Go to institutions and say how can we help you
Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that
you
get
focused group
Organize a fb group and event
Is there a monthly update?
Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position
Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English
community
members
Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM
are
intricately connected.
Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of
course,
mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved
in
a community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a need to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies.
These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about
criticism,
like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses!
Warmly
Noopur
-- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
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There needs to be some kinda national coordination. In Mumbai, we are in touch with Raj Bhavan and the Maharashtra State Archives.
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:27:45 +0530 From: noopur.raval@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Hello all :) I am glad you liked it and yes, I will post updates on the page. I am in talks with someone from a relatively big museum but am taking it carefully because these things, as you know, are very delicate. I might require the chapter's support and preferably someone from the chapter or foundation who is in Delhi. This will be sometime in January first week. SO, I urge you all to stick around AND, most importantly speak up. I only see a couple of names over and over and I am sure there are more people who agree or disagree. Also, if you guys from the chapter saw the bit on regular meet-ups, do consider a zonal organisation for India as a community. Everyone kept asking me how this big a country manages to have a single chapter for all. Let's make nodal points and have newsletters or updates. I can volunteer to make a newsletter! WarmlyNoopur PS. (thanks Srikanth R. and Arjuna :) )
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the
Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration
in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured
Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are
documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is
what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture
and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save
it on Wiki.
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Pradeep and the rest of you,
What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and
Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India
Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or
meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of
good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously,
every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk
more about that :)
Warmly
Noopur
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and
concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on
building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and
Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in
art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in
the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit
and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that
we need to foster more in the Indian community.
There are people on this mailing list who are interested in
participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and
participate in the conversation.
warm regards,
Pradeep
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form
of
some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So,
most
of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as
collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am
grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping
encourage GLAM participation in India.
This is the link to the programs:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each
session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has
pending
requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing.
Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing,
open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions
go
by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons
is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar
archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the
5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared
to your
own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard
either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT),
simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers,
percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa.
Use
things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of
‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of.
This
helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your
hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use
less
jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two
solutions
(get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY
week).
What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also
someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves
monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional
and
national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a
fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least
train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one
contact
through another.
(My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation.
From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building
exercises,
it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving
people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia
as
a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly
concentrated yet a very niche community)
(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM
request
page, why not India?
Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally
science
and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few
lay
people really know their culture or feel as passionately about
conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to
unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation
to
go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a large
communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a
matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really
needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art spaces,
have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller
individual
pilots (Sumanna)
Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’?
Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As
wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if there
were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent local
meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional
meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller goals
and
activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates.
How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based
interactions?
Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach coordinator.
Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM,
tools,
updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a
talk
or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local
community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of
mouth,
social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a
loyal reader, enthusiast base.
What tools are used to digitize artifacts?
Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to move
GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad
Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects
are
about?
Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and
outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to
recruit
new Wikimedians
Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement
together.
Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup?
Go to institutions and say how can we help you
Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that you
get
focused group
Organize a fb group and event
Is there a monthly update?
Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position
Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English community
members
Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM
are
intricately connected.
Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of course,
mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved in
a
community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a
need
to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies.
These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions,
advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about criticism,
like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses!
Warmly
Noopur
--
Noopur Raval
Student
Arts and Aesthetics
Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi
Ph: 9650567690
--
Pradeep Mohandas
How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list
Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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--
Noopur Raval
Student
Arts and Aesthetics
Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi
Ph: 9650567690
--
Sent from my mobile device
Regards,
Srikanth Ramakrishnan.
Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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What I meant is that someone should take up outreach coordination within the community. That way documentation, compiling, connecting people with other people is centralized and easier to manage.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:04 PM, wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com wrote:
There needs to be some kinda national coordination. In Mumbai, we are in touch with Raj Bhavan and the Maharashtra State Archives.
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:27:45 +0530 From: noopur.raval@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Hello all :) I am glad you liked it and yes, I will post updates on the page. I am in talks with someone from a relatively big museum but am taking it carefully because these things, as you know, are very delicate. I might require the chapter's support and preferably someone from the chapter or foundation who is in Delhi. This will be sometime in January first week. SO, I urge you all to stick around AND, most importantly speak up.
I only see a couple of names over and over and I am sure there are more people who agree or disagree. *Also, if you guys from the chapter saw the bit on regular meet-ups, do consider a zonal organisation for India as a community. Everyone kept asking me how this big a country manages to have a single chapter for all. Let's make nodal points and have newsletters or updates. I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * Warmly Noopur
PS. (thanks Srikanth R. and Arjuna :) )
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save it on Wiki.
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Pradeep and the rest of you,
What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture
of
good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very
seriously,
every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk more about that :) Warmly Noopur
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that we need to foster more in the Indian community. There are people on this mailing list who are interested in participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and participate in the conversation.
warm regards, Pradeep
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So,
most
of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I
am
grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in
each
session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has
pending
requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata
sharing,
open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that
institutions
go
by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or
commons
is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not
hard
either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations
(PPT),
simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple
numbers,
percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness
of
‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of.
This
helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two
solutions
(get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week).
What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is
also
someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki
loves
monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional
and
national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as
a
fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at
least
train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one
contact
through another.
(My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in
orientation.
From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building
exercises,
it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing
Wikipedia
as
a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly concentrated yet a very niche community)
(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request page, why not India?
Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally
science
and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged,
few
lay
people really know their culture or feel as passionately about conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a
large
communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art
spaces,
have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual pilots (Sumanna)
Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’?
Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if
there
were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent
local
meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller
goals
and
activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates.
How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based interactions?
Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach
coordinator.
Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM,
tools,
updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a
talk
or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of
mouth,
social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a loyal reader, enthusiast base.
What tools are used to digitize artifacts?
Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to
move
GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad
Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects are about?
Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to
recruit
new Wikimedians
Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement together.
Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup?
Go to institutions and say how can we help you
Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that
you
get
focused group
Organize a fb group and event
Is there a monthly update?
Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position
Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English
community
members
Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM
are
intricately connected.
Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of
course,
mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved
in
a community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a need to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies.
These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about
criticism,
like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses!
Warmly
Noopur
-- Noopur Raval Student Arts and Aesthetics Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi Ph: 9650567690
-- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
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Noopur, while you're at it, don't forget to include QRPedia as well.
On 12/13/11, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
What I meant is that someone should take up outreach coordination within the community. That way documentation, compiling, connecting people with other people is centralized and easier to manage.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:04 PM, wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com wrote:
There needs to be some kinda national coordination. In Mumbai, we are in touch with Raj Bhavan and the Maharashtra State Archives.
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:27:45 +0530 From: noopur.raval@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam
Hello all :) I am glad you liked it and yes, I will post updates on the page. I am in talks with someone from a relatively big museum but am taking it carefully because these things, as you know, are very delicate. I might require the chapter's support and preferably someone from the chapter or foundation who is in Delhi. This will be sometime in January first week. SO, I urge you all to stick around AND, most importantly speak up.
I only see a couple of names over and over and I am sure there are more people who agree or disagree. *Also, if you guys from the chapter saw the bit on regular meet-ups, do consider a zonal organisation for India as a community. Everyone kept asking me how this big a country manages to have a single chapter for all. Let's make nodal points and have newsletters or updates. I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * Warmly Noopur
PS. (thanks Srikanth R. and Arjuna :) )
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Noopur, lovely mail. This should be made part of the FAQ on the Wiki India Chapter website. I read about a massive GLAM collaboration in the UK with a Museum for the Hoxne Hoard, which is a Featured Article in English. The efforts to get info, photos etc, are documented in the Foundation Report of 2009 2010. I believe this is what we need to emulate in India simply because much of our culture and heritage is present and rotting in several museums and we can save it on Wiki.
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Pradeep and the rest of you,
What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture
of
good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very
seriously,
every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk more about that :) Warmly Noopur
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that we need to foster more in the Indian community. There are people on this mailing list who are interested in participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and participate in the conversation.
warm regards, Pradeep
On 12/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So,
most
of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I
am
grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in
each
session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has
pending
requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing. Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata
sharing,
open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that
institutions
go
by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or
commons
is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared to your own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not
hard
either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations
(PPT),
simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple
numbers,
percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa. Use things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness
of
‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of.
This
helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use less jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two
solutions
(get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY week).
What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is
also
someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki
loves
monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional
and
national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as
a
fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at
least
train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one
contact
through another.
(My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in
orientation.
From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building
exercises,
it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing
Wikipedia
as
a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly concentrated yet a very niche community)
(Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM request page, why not India?
Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally
science
and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged,
few
lay
people really know their culture or feel as passionately about conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation to go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a
large
communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art
spaces,
have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller individual pilots (Sumanna)
Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’?
Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if
there
were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent
local
meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller
goals
and
activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates.
How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based interactions?
Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach
coordinator.
Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM,
tools,
updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a
talk
or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of
mouth,
social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a loyal reader, enthusiast base.
What tools are used to digitize artifacts?
Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to
move
GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad
Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects are about?
Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to
recruit
new Wikimedians
Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement together.
Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup?
Go to institutions and say how can we help you
Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that
you
get
focused group
Organize a fb group and event
Is there a monthly update?
Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position
Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English
community
members
Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM
are
intricately connected.
Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of
course,
mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved
in
a community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a need to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies.
These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions, advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about
criticism,
like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses!
Warmly
Noopur
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
- I can volunteer to make a newsletter! *
Warmly Noopur
Dear Noopur,
This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame. With a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to come to a stop.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for - * op-ed * tips 'n tricks * English Wikipedia report
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
hi,
Can WikiPatrika discussion be taken under a new thread? It has matters and points that might need this.
This thread meant to look at stuff like tech support, legal, help and the long list of the like. There are people doing this on their own but might be nice to do it a little more openly so that the whole community can be helped. Also, when such resources cannot be found, they can have people trained etc. Something along those lines.
Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
- I can volunteer to make a newsletter! *
Warmly Noopur
Dear Noopur,
This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame. With a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to come to a stop.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for -
- op-ed
- tips 'n tricks
- English Wikipedia report
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
hi,
Oops. Mistake in second para. This discussion is on GLAM. Must remember to read the subject twice. Apologies.
Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
Can WikiPatrika discussion be taken under a new thread? It has matters and points that might need this.
This thread meant to look at stuff like tech support, legal, help and the long list of the like. There are people doing this on their own but might be nice to do it a little more openly so that the whole community can be helped. Also, when such resources cannot be found, they can have people trained etc. Something along those lines.
Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
- I can volunteer to make a newsletter! *
Warmly Noopur
Dear Noopur,
This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame. With a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to come to a stop.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for -
- op-ed
- tips 'n tricks
- English Wikipedia report
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
-- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9
Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ...
On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
- I can volunteer to make a newsletter! *
Warmly Noopur
Dear Noopur,
This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame. With a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to come to a stop.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for -
- op-ed
- tips 'n tricks
- English Wikipedia report
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
@ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least figure things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see what sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private mail. I will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would be glad if you could help with it. :)
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ...
On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
- I can volunteer to make a newsletter! *
Warmly Noopur
Dear Noopur,
This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame.
With
a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to
come
to a stop.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for -
- op-ed
- tips 'n tricks
- English Wikipedia report
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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hi,
GLAM contributions will impact contributions to Wikipedia sister projects like Commons and WikiSource. Would love if people active on these projects would come forward and share how such uploads from GLAM would need to be moderated, etc. Would love to hear more from someone who's onto WikiSource, especially.
warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
@ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least figure things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see what sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private mail. I will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would be glad if you could help with it. :)
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ...
On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
- I can volunteer to make a newsletter! *
Warmly Noopur
Dear Noopur,
This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame.
With
a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to
come
to a stop.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for -
- op-ed
- tips 'n tricks
- English Wikipedia report
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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Pradeep, my thoughts exactly. The Commons would be the most utilised project due to GLAM, and I think we should ask Yann, who is an admin. Also, I'm curious to what role WikiSource would play here, especially in India.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
GLAM contributions will impact contributions to Wikipedia sister projects like Commons and WikiSource. Would love if people active on these projects would come forward and share how such uploads from GLAM would need to be moderated, etc. Would love to hear more from someone who's onto WikiSource, especially.
warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
@ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least figure things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see what sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private mail. I will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would be glad if you could help with it. :)
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ...
On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
- I can volunteer to make a newsletter! *
Warmly Noopur
Dear Noopur,
This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame.
With
a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to
come
to a stop.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for -
- op-ed
- tips 'n tricks
- English Wikipedia report
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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hi,
Stuff from libraries and archives go onto WikiSource. I read/heard/saw somewhere that they're having a hard time monitoring docs uploaded there. Not sure if it needs monitoring for copyvio etc. So, a WikiSource person or encouraging a WikiSource person to do and learn more would be a welcome addition. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Pradeep, my thoughts exactly. The Commons would be the most utilised project due to GLAM, and I think we should ask Yann, who is an admin. Also, I'm curious to what role WikiSource would play here, especially in India.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
GLAM contributions will impact contributions to Wikipedia sister projects like Commons and WikiSource. Would love if people active on these projects would come forward and share how such uploads from GLAM would need to be moderated, etc. Would love to hear more from someone who's onto WikiSource, especially.
warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
@ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least figure things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see what sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private mail. I will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would be glad if you could help with it. :)
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ...
On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
- I can volunteer to make a newsletter! *
Warmly Noopur
Dear Noopur,
This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame.
With
a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to
come
to a stop.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for -
- op-ed
- tips 'n tricks
- English Wikipedia report
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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Pradeep, thanks. I forgot that the L stood for Libraries. Thanks. According to me. G- Commons, Wikipedia. L- Wikisource. A- Commons, Wikipedia, Wikisource. M- Commons, Wikipedia. Am I right? These are just indicative as to what element of GLAM joins which project.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
Stuff from libraries and archives go onto WikiSource. I read/heard/saw somewhere that they're having a hard time monitoring docs uploaded there. Not sure if it needs monitoring for copyvio etc. So, a WikiSource person or encouraging a WikiSource person to do and learn more would be a welcome addition. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Pradeep, my thoughts exactly. The Commons would be the most utilised project due to GLAM, and I think we should ask Yann, who is an admin. Also, I'm curious to what role WikiSource would play here, especially in India.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
GLAM contributions will impact contributions to Wikipedia sister projects like Commons and WikiSource. Would love if people active on these projects would come forward and share how such uploads from GLAM would need to be moderated, etc. Would love to hear more from someone who's onto WikiSource, especially.
warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
@ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least figure things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see what sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private mail. I will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would be glad if you could help with it. :)
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ...
On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
> * I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * > Warmly > Noopur >
Dear Noopur,
This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to blame.
With
a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound to
come
to a stop.
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika
The next issue is of November but going nowhere -
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11
I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that and so forth. Please rest assured on my support for -
- op-ed
- tips 'n tricks
- English Wikipedia report
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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hi,
Well, L could reach WikiSource (old books?), WikiQuotes, Wikictionary (difficult, tho). Better to keep all options open. Also, all the Indic stuff would go on the Indic version of the respective projects. So, a Malayalam wikisource or a Marathi Wikisource other than just English.
Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Pradeep, thanks. I forgot that the L stood for Libraries. Thanks. According to me. G- Commons, Wikipedia. L- Wikisource. A- Commons, Wikipedia, Wikisource. M- Commons, Wikipedia. Am I right? These are just indicative as to what element of GLAM joins which project.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
Stuff from libraries and archives go onto WikiSource. I read/heard/saw somewhere that they're having a hard time monitoring docs uploaded there. Not sure if it needs monitoring for copyvio etc. So, a WikiSource person or encouraging a WikiSource person to do and learn more would be a welcome addition. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Pradeep, my thoughts exactly. The Commons would be the most utilised project due to GLAM, and I think we should ask Yann, who is an admin. Also, I'm curious to what role WikiSource would play here, especially in India.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
GLAM contributions will impact contributions to Wikipedia sister projects like Commons and WikiSource. Would love if people active on these projects would come forward and share how such uploads from GLAM would need to be moderated, etc. Would love to hear more from someone who's onto WikiSource, especially.
warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
@ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least figure things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see what sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private mail. I will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would be glad if you could help with it. :)
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ...
On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com > wrote: > >> * I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * >> Warmly >> Noopur >> > > Dear Noopur, > > This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to > blame. With > a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound > to come > to a stop. > > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika > > The next issue is of November but going nowhere - > > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11 > > I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that > and > so > forth. Please rest assured on my support for - > * op-ed > * tips 'n tricks > * English Wikipedia report > > Warm regards, > > Ashwin Baindur > ------------------------------------------------------ >
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Hey everyone,
As Noopur said GLAM and outreach cannot be seperated, +1 to it.
Also wanted to share with you guys that the outreach event and workshop I am organising in February in MS University Baroda, the organizers from the city were amazed to know what Commons is and how wikipedia and other project get images and media from it.
So they have asked me to come up with an event specially targeting photographers. Thus am planning for "Wikipedia takes Baroda" though at much smaller scale than scavenger hunt which has happened in other countries till now.
Please give your inputs on it. And Noopur I ll get in touch with you offline regarding it.
Thanks.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
Well, L could reach WikiSource (old books?), WikiQuotes, Wikictionary (difficult, tho). Better to keep all options open. Also, all the Indic stuff would go on the Indic version of the respective projects. So, a Malayalam wikisource or a Marathi Wikisource other than just English.
Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Pradeep, thanks. I forgot that the L stood for Libraries. Thanks. According to me. G- Commons, Wikipedia. L- Wikisource. A- Commons, Wikipedia, Wikisource. M- Commons, Wikipedia. Am I right? These are just indicative as to what element of GLAM joins which project.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
Stuff from libraries and archives go onto WikiSource. I read/heard/saw somewhere that they're having a hard time monitoring docs uploaded there. Not sure if it needs monitoring for copyvio etc. So, a WikiSource person or encouraging a WikiSource person to do and learn more would be a welcome addition. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Pradeep, my thoughts exactly. The Commons would be the most utilised project due to GLAM, and I think we should ask Yann, who is an admin. Also, I'm curious to what role WikiSource would play here, especially in India.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
GLAM contributions will impact contributions to Wikipedia sister projects like Commons and WikiSource. Would love if people active on these projects would come forward and share how such uploads from GLAM would need to be moderated, etc. Would love to hear more from someone who's onto WikiSource, especially.
warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
@ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least figure things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see what sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private mail. I will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would be glad if you could help with it. :)
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless > ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ... > > On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > >> * I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * > >> Warmly > >> Noopur > >> > > > > Dear Noopur, > > > > This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to > > blame. > With > > a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound > > to > come > > to a stop. > > > > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika > > > > The next issue is of November but going nowhere - > > > > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11 > > > > I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that > > and > > so > > forth. Please rest assured on my support for - > > * op-ed > > * tips 'n tricks > > * English Wikipedia report > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Ashwin Baindur > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > -- > Regards, > Srikanth Ramakrishnan. > Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >
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Arnav, brilliant, though I think you should first introduce photographers to the Commons and explain the benefits. Let me know your thoughts, if need be privately, as I'm planning to go forward with a special meet aimed at the photography community myself, in Coimbatore.
On 12/14/11, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.com wrote:
Hey everyone,
As Noopur said GLAM and outreach cannot be seperated, +1 to it.
Also wanted to share with you guys that the outreach event and workshop I am organising in February in MS University Baroda, the organizers from the city were amazed to know what Commons is and how wikipedia and other project get images and media from it.
So they have asked me to come up with an event specially targeting photographers. Thus am planning for "Wikipedia takes Baroda" though at much smaller scale than scavenger hunt which has happened in other countries till now.
Please give your inputs on it. And Noopur I ll get in touch with you offline regarding it.
Thanks.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
Well, L could reach WikiSource (old books?), WikiQuotes, Wikictionary (difficult, tho). Better to keep all options open. Also, all the Indic stuff would go on the Indic version of the respective projects. So, a Malayalam wikisource or a Marathi Wikisource other than just English.
Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Pradeep, thanks. I forgot that the L stood for Libraries. Thanks. According to me. G- Commons, Wikipedia. L- Wikisource. A- Commons, Wikipedia, Wikisource. M- Commons, Wikipedia. Am I right? These are just indicative as to what element of GLAM joins which project.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
Stuff from libraries and archives go onto WikiSource. I read/heard/saw somewhere that they're having a hard time monitoring docs uploaded there. Not sure if it needs monitoring for copyvio etc. So, a WikiSource person or encouraging a WikiSource person to do and learn more would be a welcome addition. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Pradeep, my thoughts exactly. The Commons would be the most utilised project due to GLAM, and I think we should ask Yann, who is an admin. Also, I'm curious to what role WikiSource would play here, especially in India.
On 12/14/11, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
GLAM contributions will impact contributions to Wikipedia sister projects like Commons and WikiSource. Would love if people active on these projects would come forward and share how such uploads from GLAM would need to be moderated, etc. Would love to hear more from someone who's onto WikiSource, especially.
warm regards, Pradeep Handheld
On 14/12/2011, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote: > @ashwin thanks :) I plan to get one for Jan hopefully or at least > figure > things out by then. Am already designing a new logo and trying to see > what > sections can cover Indic reports+GLAM+outreach and more. If you have > categories in mind, post on talk page or let's take this on private > mail. > I > will need help editing maybe and i suck at using templates etc. Would > be > glad if you could help with it. :) > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless >> ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ... >> >> On 12/14/11, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote: >> > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> > >> >> * I can volunteer to make a newsletter! * >> >> Warmly >> >> Noopur >> >> >> > >> > Dear Noopur, >> > >> > This project was well begun but came to a dead halt! No one to >> > blame. >> With >> > a versatile person like Tinu handling so much, something was bound >> > to >> come >> > to a stop. >> > >> > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika >> > >> > The next issue is of November but going nowhere - >> > >> > http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiPatrika/2011-11 >> > >> > I suggest you try to get one out in Feb and two months after that >> > and >> > so >> > forth. Please rest assured on my support for - >> > * op-ed >> > * tips 'n tricks >> > * English Wikipedia report >> > >> > Warm regards, >> > >> > Ashwin Baindur >> > ------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Srikanth Ramakrishnan. >> Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > > > > -- > Noopur Raval > Student > Arts and Aesthetics > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi > Ph: 9650567690 >
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Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
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Great Noopur. Good luck with your venture. --~~~~
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
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Hi Noopur,
A good place to add them is
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
-- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati%3E
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For Arnav and others: I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki speak):
http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/
It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as well!
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Noopur,
A good place to add them is
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
-- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati%3E
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Thanks a ton Noopur. Now atleast I'll have something to show when I invite the photography club for the next meetup. Ashwin, I believe, it's http://bookshelf.Wikimedia.org I read it at the back of the Welcome to Wikipedia Editors Guide.
On 12/15/11, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
For Arnav and others: I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki speak):
http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/
It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as well!
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Noopur,
A good place to add them is
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
-- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati%3E
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Thanks Srikanth the link you gave is the correct one. Though anybody reading my link will find the same in the very first line of text. :)
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks a ton Noopur. Now atleast I'll have something to show when I invite the photography club for the next meetup. Ashwin, I believe, it's http://bookshelf.Wikimedia.org I read it at the back of the Welcome to Wikipedia Editors Guide.
On 12/15/11, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
For Arnav and others: I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any
wiki
speak):
http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/
It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline
as
well!
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Noopur,
A good place to add them is
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository
of
presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions
so
that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM
and
commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
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Hi,
Nice work! I am not very at home in Prezi, so some suggestions by email:
* Maybe it is better to call Wikimedia a "movement" to avoid confusion when they encounter Wikimedia India * In the file formats you seem to miss .OGG (sound/video) * It is probably better to never say "Commons" like we do, but always "Wikimedia Commons". Otherwise people get confused with Creative Commons. * Is NPOV really relevant in Wikimedia Commons? * Suggesting to dig up archives is dangerous - we have some bad experiences in Israel with that. The danger is that they dig up photos taken by other people of themselves. Maybe reword to "your old photographs" and focus on authorship rather than (physical) ownership? * Maybe add something about Featured images: if they submit really good images, they might end up getting that status?
Anyway, hope it is useful,
Lodewijk
No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 19:05, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.comescreveu:
For Arnav and others: I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki speak):
http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/
It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as well!
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Noopur,
A good place to add them is
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
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Hey,
This presentation is not for audio/video. This came up since someone needed a presentation for Photographers. Why I have used Commons interchangeably is because I assume Arnav is going to speak to them about Licensing (Creative Commons) as well as Wikimedia Commons. That is why I kept two slides for both. I will change them to two clear slides in that case. For, NPOV and uploading policies, I was refering to this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_scope Will change the archive bit too (thanks for the heads up!) And, Featured images should be an excellent end :) (thanks again, you shall be given a kitten soon!) Warmly Noopur
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Hi,
Nice work! I am not very at home in Prezi, so some suggestions by email:
- Maybe it is better to call Wikimedia a "movement" to avoid confusion
when they encounter Wikimedia India
- In the file formats you seem to miss .OGG (sound/video)
- It is probably better to never say "Commons" like we do, but always
"Wikimedia Commons". Otherwise people get confused with Creative Commons.
- Is NPOV really relevant in Wikimedia Commons?
- Suggesting to dig up archives is dangerous - we have some bad
experiences in Israel with that. The danger is that they dig up photos taken by other people of themselves. Maybe reword to "your old photographs" and focus on authorship rather than (physical) ownership?
- Maybe add something about Featured images: if they submit really good
images, they might end up getting that status?
Anyway, hope it is useful,
Lodewijk
No dia 15 de Dezembro de 2011 19:05, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.comescreveu:
For Arnav and others:
I made a little something on Commons and photography (have avoided any wiki speak):
http://prezi.com/qjfh338fxhum/the-wikiguide-for-photographers/
It's on prezi so you can edit and then put it in a ppt to share offline as well!
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.baindur@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Noopur,
A good place to add them is
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Arnav, This is awesome! I was speaking to Hisham about compiling a repository of presentations and Simple English guides, keeping them in PDF versions so that people can use them whenever. I have some presentations on GLAM and commons, if you want I can send them over and you don't have to go through the trouble of making them again.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.arnav@gmail.comwrote:
Yeah, I mean since most of the photographers there would not be knowing what commons is, I ll first give them presentation about commons and explain them public domain licensing in detail.
-- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati) < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati%3E
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*On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote: Ashwin, I fail to understand what this has to do with GLAM. Unless ofcourse, Noopur can run a section on GLAM on WikiPatrika ...*
The way I understood it Noopur is willing to help out with a newsletter. Of course GLAM will be part of it, but the newsletter WikiPatrika which we had hoped would succeed needs to be revived if GLAM has to have a e-newsletter to carry its articles in...
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all, These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form of some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So, most of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping encourage GLAM participation in India. This is the link to the programs: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion! --cut--
Thanks Noopur for the detailed writeup. I am glad that you found it to be a great learning experience. Chapter is expected to play a key role in GLAM initiative, based on our discussion with Liam in the beginning of the year. We had some interactions with Dept of Public Libraries,Government of Karnataka and also Kannada Government Encyclopaedia project http://kanaja.in(digital library)
Can you help seed some events around this? You can use the GLAMhttp://wiki.wikimedia.in/GLAMproject page on Wikimedia.in for sharing your thoughts and/or proposals.
Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala President, Wikimedia India
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