On 12/12/2011, Noopur <
noopur.raval@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Pradeep and the rest of you,
>
> What I think was my biggest take away from the GLAMcamp is: GLAM and
> Outreach cannot be separated. Similar holds for expanding the India
> Wikipedia community. While doing Wikiacademy or workshops or clubs or
> meet-ups, the idea is to spread the word as much as encourage a culture of
> good editing. That is what these guys back at the camp take very seriously,
> every occasional meetup is a wonderful outreach opportunity! Let's talk
> more about that :)
> Warmly
> Noopur
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Pradeep Mohandas <
>
pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> Thank you for your update, Noopur. Coming back with more good and
>> concrete is great and the best way for the community to reflect.
>>
>> Personally, I think there are people right now who are focussed on
>> building a new breed of editors through WikiAcademies and
>> Wiki-Workshops. This seems to be happening in tech schools and not in
>> art schools. Very few of the tech school junta might be interested in
>> the arts or history. But, they can teach the arts school junta to edit
>> and help them out. I think it is this cross-disciplinary editing that
>> we need to foster more in the Indian community.
>> There are people on this mailing list who are interested in
>> participating in GLAM. I hope they respond to this thread and
>> participate in the conversation.
>>
>> warm regards,
>> Pradeep
>>
>> On 12/12/2011, Noopur <
noopur.raval@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> > These are my insights from GLAMcamp Amsterdam. I have put them in form
>> > of
>> > some key questions. For me it was a brilliant learning experience. So,
>> most
>> > of these answers are not mine, rather they have been generated as
>> > collaborative responses by various people from different chapters. I am
>> > grateful to WMF, WM-NL and WM-UK for their special interest in helping
>> > encourage GLAM participation in India.
>> > This is the link to the programs:
>> >
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAMcamp_Amsterdam#Schedule and in each
>> > session you will find an etherpad link to the live discussion!
>> >
>> >
>> > Why GLAMwiki is becoming all the more important?
>> >
>> > Flickr: popular mass upload tool but is no longer available; it has
>> pending
>> > requests and flickr commons has no money to support more file sharing.
>> > Wikimedia Commons allows almost the same functions and metadata sharing,
>> > open licensing with a bonus Wikipedia link (something that institutions
>> go
>> > by). Since most institutions don’t really know what Wikimedia or commons
>> > is, the Wikipedia name leverages partnerships and allows them similar
>> > archiving benefits. For us, it is also outreach.
>> >
>> >
>> > Common questions by GLAM institutions in other countries:
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > Why Wikipedia, why not our own website?
>> >
>> > Because of the abysmal disparity in web-view. Simply, Wikipedia is the
>> > 5thmost visited, gives far more visibility in web traffic as compared
>> > to your
>> > own website. However, integrating wikis and providing links is not hard
>> > either. So, it doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive.
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > This is complicated, is there an easier way to collaborate?
>> >
>> > Advice to GLAM and cultural/outreach people: Carry presentations (PPT),
>> > simple statistics, don’t go into metrics jargon, show in simple numbers,
>> > percentage, fractions how people can make a difference or vice versa.
>> > Use
>> > things like color coding, emphasize on the importance and seriousness of
>> > ‘free knowledge’, larger things that Wikipedia is also in service of.
>> This
>> > helps people connect at different levels. Most importantly, break your
>> > hierarchies and trash your rule books (or make simpler ones that use
>> > less
>> > jargon). If you are concerned about quality editing there are two
>> solutions
>> > (get content specific editathons and organize a Wiki academy EVERY
>> > week).
>> >
>> >
>> > What happens once partnership is over? How to sustain?
>> >
>> > This is why a GLAM coordinator is not simply a GLAM person. S/he is also
>> > someone who does massive outreach: Wikipedia takes your city; Wiki loves
>> > monuments, wikiacademies, PR and network building with local, regional
>> and
>> > national resource persons outside the community. While in capacity as a
>> > fellow, the idea is also to do value addition, train employees (at least
>> > train in minor edits, article making, image uploading). Source one
>> contact
>> > through another.
>> >
>> > (My take: As I see it, there has to be a crucial change in orientation.
>> > From exhaustive internal debates, discussions and tool building
>> exercises,
>> > it has to move and adapt to the larger Open and free scene, involving
>> > people albeit on a temporary basis and expanding. Monopolizing Wikipedia
>> as
>> > a city, state or indic language space is only going to create a highly
>> > concentrated yet a very niche community)
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > (Question asked to me) 52 cultural partnerships listed on GLAM
>> > request
>> > page, why not India?
>> >
>> > Frankly, I had no answers why. My hunch is that since traditionally
>> science
>> > and technology oriented courses and vocations have been encouraged, few
>> lay
>> > people really know their culture or feel as passionately about
>> > conservation. On the other hand, placement of government officials to
>> > unrelated departments (museums) included leaves them little motivation
>> > to
>> > go beyond their regular duties. On the other hand, there is also a large
>> > communication and visibility problem since Wikimeetups aren’t really a
>> > matter of common knowledge even to journalists. Wikimedia India really
>> > needs to carve out a place and get involved in academic and art spaces,
>> > have people just talk about their experiences, present smaller
>> > individual
>> > pilots (Sumanna)
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > Why no Indian participation in ‘This month in GLAM’?
>> >
>> > Because there is really no ‘Indian’ GLAM or ‘Indian’ community. As
>> > wonderful as the Indic language efforts are, it would be great if there
>> > were biannual national meet-ups, regional meets and more frequent local
>> > meets. Identify at least 4-5 cities that can act as pivotal regional
>> > meeting and resource points. This will also help generate smaller goals
>> and
>> > activities and we can have our own newsletter as well as TMIG updates.
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > How do we identify, regulate and strengthen local community based
>> > interactions?
>> >
>> > Most important: Every chapter must have a national outreach coordinator.
>> > Have mandatory sections in agenda: Gender gap, Indic, English, GLAM,
>> tools,
>> > updates, outreach. Invite guest speakers or professors who can give a
>> talk
>> > or attend and that way get to see the internal workings of the local
>> > community. Try and concretize a press team, media releases, word of
>> mouth,
>> > social networking channel so that every time news passes by, we have a
>> > loyal reader, enthusiast base.
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > What tools are used to digitize artifacts?
>> >
>> > Proposed GLAMtoolset, more on etherpad, apart from this proposal to move
>> > GLAM to a different portal from Outreach redirect. More on etherpad
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > Do people really know who a Wikipedian is, what Wikimedia projects
>> > are
>> > about?
>> >
>> > Andy Mabbett, Fae from UK chapter spoke about their fund raising and
>> > outreach activities, also on how to recruit new editors and how to
>> recruit
>> > new Wikimedians
>> >
>> > Important task is to categorically do outreach and editor involvement
>> > together.
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > Who all do you invite in a wikimeetup?
>> >
>> > Go to institutions and say how can we help you
>> >
>> > Go with groups to cultural institutions and get volunteers so that you
>> get
>> > focused group
>> >
>> > Organize a fb group and event
>> >
>> > Is there a monthly update?
>> >
>> > Need for a cultural outreach coordinator position
>> >
>> > Need for a monthly newsletter that binds all indic and English community
>> > members
>> >
>> > Need to look at GLAMs more seriously because women’s outreach and GLAM
>> are
>> > intricately connected.
>> >
>> > Need to move to more friendly UIs and keep discussions going. Of course,
>> > mailing lists exist and they can be for people specifically involved in
>> > a
>> > community but for the novices and to attract more people, there is a
>> > need
>> > to get FB groups going, have more Wiki academies.
>> >
>> >
>> > These are a few salient questions. I will appreciate your suggestions,
>> > advice, comments and questions. Let us try and be civil about criticism,
>> > like mature, secure adults :) Look forward to your responses!
>> >
>> > Warmly
>> >
>> > Noopur
>> >
>> > --
>> > Noopur Raval
>> > Student
>> > Arts and Aesthetics
>> > Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi
>> > Ph: 9650567690
>> >
>>
>>
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> Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi
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