Vibhi, if you need help, I can try and get some friends in Delhi et all to join you in your enthusiasm. While I'm pleased to see your enthusiasm, your over enthusiasm is what worries me.
Bishakha, Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or Twitter ... Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other offline. Now, I request Vibhi to think with a clear mind. - Regards, SR
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On Jun 6, 2011 12:30 PM, "Bishakha Datta" bishakhadatta@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun...
Just realized my last two sentences could be misread/misinterpereted: just to clarify - it would be great if interested wikipedians in Delhi/North India could meet and make plans to build these communities. To me, this seems to be the critical first step, more than plans to start a sub-national chapter. Community activism is what seems to be needed.
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Bishakha,
Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or Twitter ... Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other offline.
Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online.
Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by any means necessary.
Best Bishakha
Vibhi, As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. I suggest you concentrate on your edits. I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local wikiprojects? Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization
Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in Bangalore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group.
Are you interested in Photography? Or editing images? Maps perhaps? Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we can collectively contribute to the Commons.
If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures.
Or are you into coding? Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru these channels.
My best wishes to you.
--Regards, SR.
On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Bishakha,
Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or Twitter ... Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other offline.
Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online.
Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by any means necessary.
Best Bishakha
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Hi all, I just discussed that if we can gather a good community in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of the Same family.
Regards Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05@gmail.com
wrote:
Vibhi, As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. I suggest you concentrate on your edits. I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local wikiprojects? Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization
Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in Bangalore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group.
Are you interested in Photography? Or editing images? Maps perhaps? Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we can collectively contribute to the Commons.
If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures.
Or are you into coding? Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru these channels.
My best wishes to you.
--Regards, SR.
On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Bishakha,
Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or Twitter ... Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other offline.
Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online.
Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by any means necessary.
Best Bishakha
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That is exactly my question. If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for yourself? --SR
On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all, I just discussed that if we can gather a good community in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of the Same family.
Regards Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Vibhi, As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. I suggest you concentrate on your edits. I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local wikiprojects? Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization
Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in Bangalore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group.
Are you interested in Photography? Or editing images? Maps perhaps? Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we can collectively contribute to the Commons.
If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures.
Or are you into coding? Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru these channels.
My best wishes to you.
--Regards, SR.
On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Bishakha,
Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or Twitter ... Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other offline.
Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online.
Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by any means necessary.
Best Bishakha
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My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
Thanks Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05@gmail.com
wrote:
That is exactly my question. If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for yourself? --SR
On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all, I just discussed that if we can gather a good community in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of the Same family.
Regards Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Vibhi, As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. I suggest you concentrate on your edits. I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local wikiprojects? Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization
Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in Bangalore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group.
Are you interested in Photography? Or editing images? Maps perhaps? Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we can collectively contribute to the Commons.
If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures.
Or are you into coding? Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru these channels.
My best wishes to you.
--Regards, SR.
On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Bishakha,
Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or Twitter ... Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other offline.
Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online.
Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by any means necessary.
Best Bishakha
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And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is), whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion has been right?
The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having more chapter offices in India.
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
Thanks Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
That is exactly my question. If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for yourself? --SR
On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all, I just discussed that if we can gather a good community in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of the Same family.
Regards Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Vibhi, As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. I suggest you concentrate on your edits. I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local wikiprojects? Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization
Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in Bangalore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group.
Are you interested in Photography? Or editing images? Maps perhaps? Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we can collectively contribute to the Commons.
If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures.
Or are you into coding? Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru these channels.
My best wishes to you.
--Regards, SR.
On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Bishakha,
Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or Twitter ... Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other offline.
Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online.
Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by any means necessary.
Best Bishakha
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Abhi, What you said, makes perfect sense.
Mayur, You said you want to grow from good to Excellent Community. The Tamil Wikipedia and Kannada Wikipedia did that before the Chapter even came up. These two languages were doing great even in 2009.
Here is my suggestion. These 20 something people you mentioned. TELL them ALL to join the Chapter. Here is a link to the form, for convenience: http://wiki.wikimedia.in/File:WikimediaChapterMembershipFormIndividualV1.pdf If you join the Chapter and have interactions with the EC and other members, you might achieve what you wanted in the first place. --Regards,
On 6 June 2011 18:55, Abhilash S Unni abhilashunni@gmail.com wrote:
And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is), whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion has been right?
The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having more chapter offices in India.
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
Thanks Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
That is exactly my question. If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for yourself? --SR
On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all, I just discussed that if we can gather a good community in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of the Same family.
Regards Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Vibhi, As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. I suggest you concentrate on your edits. I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local wikiprojects? Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization
Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in Bangalore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group.
Are you interested in Photography? Or editing images? Maps perhaps? Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we can collectively contribute to the Commons.
If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures.
Or are you into coding? Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru these channels.
My best wishes to you.
--Regards, SR.
On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bishakha, > > Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first > half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. > We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. > Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or > Twitter ... > Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk > pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and > Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other > offline. > Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online.
Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by any means necessary.
Best Bishakha
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We don't have any expectatins from india chapter that why we are planning to make Delhi Chapter to grow our Community in delhi, Let hope if this chapter can do anything for indian community.Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Abhilash S Unni abhilashunni@gmail.comwrote:
And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is), whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion has been right?
The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having more chapter offices in India.
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
Thanks Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
That is exactly my question. If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for yourself? --SR
On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all, I just discussed that if we can gather a good community in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of the Same family.
Regards Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Vibhi, As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. I suggest you concentrate on your edits. I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local wikiprojects? Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization
Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in Bangalore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group.
Are you interested in Photography? Or editing images? Maps perhaps? Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we can collectively contribute to the Commons.
If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures.
Or are you into coding? Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru these channels.
My best wishes to you.
--Regards, SR.
On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bishakha, > > Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first > half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. > We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. > Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or > Twitter ... > Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk > pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and > Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other > offline. > Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online.
Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by any means necessary.
Best Bishakha
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Not having expectations is not anybody's fault. Simply saying that the chapter isn't doing anything for your community and is doing for thr other without substantial proof is however somebody's fault. I'll let you figure out whose fault it is. --Regards,
On 6 June 2011 19:05, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
We don't have any expectatins from india chapter that why we are planning to make Delhi Chapter to grow our Community in delhi, Let hope if this chapter can do anything for indian community.Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Abhilash S Unni abhilashunni@gmail.comwrote:
And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is), whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion has been right?
The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having more chapter offices in India.
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
Thanks Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
That is exactly my question. If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for yourself? --SR
On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all, I just discussed that if we can gather a good community in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of the Same family.
Regards Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Vibhi, As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. I suggest you concentrate on your edits. I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local wikiprojects? Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization
Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in Bangalore. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group.
Are you interested in Photography? Or editing images? Maps perhaps? Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we can collectively contribute to the Commons.
If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures.
Or are you into coding? Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru these channels.
My best wishes to you.
--Regards, SR.
On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Bishakha, >> >> Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the first >> half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July 2009. >> We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia itself. >> Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook or >> Twitter ... >> Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk >> pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and >> Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other >> offline. >> > Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online. > > Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by any > means necessary. > > Best > Bishakha > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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I do not think this discussion is going anywhere and as someone has mentioned during the discussion its getting dirtier as well. I am going back to being fence-sitter without commenting.
Before that, I would like to bring to the notice of Mayur how some of the regional wikimedia movements has attained a lot without local chapters. I have heard lots of traction going on about Odisha. Campus Ambassador program being launched in Pune. Malayalam wiki (as a proud mallu), having traction and meets being organised. All these was done without any local chapter in place.
When you say that the India Chapter is not going to do anything for your community, you are undermining the hard-work the volunteers have done till now for the wikimedia movement all over the country without any bias.
We wouldn't have reached this stage of having the foundation office being setup in Delhi without their contribution as well Mayur, please do not forget that. All we are trying to say here is whether we need to look at a local chapter without having enough traction as a good community in place.
As you yourself has said, setup a good community, have meetups and discussion, get more volunteers as enthusiastic as Vibhi to join up, make a mark and then have the local chapter setup to guide yourself to an excellent community.
Healthy competition is what we need here, this discussion is now more or less turning out to be a personal and vindicative attack in a subtle way on many wikipedians out here who has been doing appreciable work for long.
Please let us not do that and put an end to this discussion and work towards the common goal as a unified community.
Thanks Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05@gmail.com
wrote:
Not having expectations is not anybody's fault. Simply saying that the chapter isn't doing anything for your community and is doing for thr other without substantial proof is however somebody's fault. I'll let you figure out whose fault it is. --Regards,
On 6 June 2011 19:05, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
We don't have any expectatins from india chapter that why we are planning to make Delhi Chapter to grow our Community in delhi, Let hope if this chapter can do anything for indian community.Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Abhilash S Unni abhilashunni@gmail.comwrote:
And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is), whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion has been right?
The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having more chapter offices in India.
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
Thanks Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
That is exactly my question. If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for yourself? --SR
On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all, I just discussed that if we can gather a good community in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of the Same family.
Regards Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vibhi, > As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per > K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure > this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do > get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. > You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. > I suggest you concentrate on your edits. > I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local > wikiprojects? > Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? > Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization > > Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in > Bangalore. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 > The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. > Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group. > > Are you interested in Photography? > Or editing images? Maps perhaps? > Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we > can collectively contribute to the Commons. > > If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal > will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures. > > Or are you into coding? > Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. > I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru > these channels. > > My best wishes to you. > > --Regards, > SR. > > > On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >> rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Bishakha, >>> >>> Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the >>> first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July >>> 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia >>> itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook >>> or Twitter ... >>> Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk >>> pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and >>> Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other >>> offline. >>> >> Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online. >> >> Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by >> any means necessary. >> >> Best >> Bishakha >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > ME. > Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement > My infrastructure invasion... plus other images > too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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I agree with Abhi. Let's proud to be having a chapter in our India. :)
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On 6 June 2011 19:30, Abhilash S Unni abhilashunni@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think this discussion is going anywhere and as someone has mentioned during the discussion its getting dirtier as well. I am going back to being fence-sitter without commenting.
Before that, I would like to bring to the notice of Mayur how some of the regional wikimedia movements has attained a lot without local chapters. I have heard lots of traction going on about Odisha. Campus Ambassador program being launched in Pune. Malayalam wiki (as a proud mallu), having traction and meets being organised. All these was done without any local chapter in place.
When you say that the India Chapter is not going to do anything for your community, you are undermining the hard-work the volunteers have done till now for the wikimedia movement all over the country without any bias.
We wouldn't have reached this stage of having the foundation office being setup in Delhi without their contribution as well Mayur, please do not forget that. All we are trying to say here is whether we need to look at a local chapter without having enough traction as a good community in place.
As you yourself has said, setup a good community, have meetups and discussion, get more volunteers as enthusiastic as Vibhi to join up, make a mark and then have the local chapter setup to guide yourself to an excellent community.
Healthy competition is what we need here, this discussion is now more or less turning out to be a personal and vindicative attack in a subtle way on many wikipedians out here who has been doing appreciable work for long.
Please let us not do that and put an end to this discussion and work towards the common goal as a unified community.
Thanks Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Not having expectations is not anybody's fault. Simply saying that the chapter isn't doing anything for your community and is doing for thr other without substantial proof is however somebody's fault. I'll let you figure out whose fault it is. --Regards,
On 6 June 2011 19:05, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
We don't have any expectatins from india chapter that why we are planning to make Delhi Chapter to grow our Community in delhi, Let hope if this chapter can do anything for indian community.Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Abhilash S Unni abhilashunni@gmail.comwrote:
And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is), whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion has been right?
The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having more chapter offices in India.
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
Thanks Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
That is exactly my question. If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for yourself? --SR
On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all, > I just discussed that if we can gather a good community > in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not > about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further > if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of > the Same family. > > Regards > Mayur > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Vibhi, >> As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per >> K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure >> this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do >> get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. >> You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. >> I suggest you concentrate on your edits. >> I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local >> wikiprojects? >> Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? >> Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization >> >> Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in >> Bangalore. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 >> The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. >> Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group. >> >> Are you interested in Photography? >> Or editing images? Maps perhaps? >> Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we >> can collectively contribute to the Commons. >> >> If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure User:Shyamal >> will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload pictures. >> >> Or are you into coding? >> Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. >> I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru >> these channels. >> >> My best wishes to you. >> >> --Regards, >> SR. >> >> >> On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >>> rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Bishakha, >>>> >>>> Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the >>>> first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July >>>> 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia >>>> itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook >>>> or Twitter ... >>>> Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk >>>> pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and >>>> Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other >>>> offline. >>>> >>> Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online. >>> >>> Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by >>> any means necessary. >>> >>> Best >>> Bishakha >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> ME. >> Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement >> My infrastructure invasion... plus other images >> too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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I do agree with you but we want to make this proud double and we will do this very soon.:)
Regards Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Surya Prakash suryasalem2010@gmail.comwrote:
I agree with Abhi. Let's proud to be having a chapter in our India. :)
Proud to be a part of Wikimedia projects. :)
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On 6 June 2011 19:30, Abhilash S Unni abhilashunni@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think this discussion is going anywhere and as someone has mentioned during the discussion its getting dirtier as well. I am going back to being fence-sitter without commenting.
Before that, I would like to bring to the notice of Mayur how some of the regional wikimedia movements has attained a lot without local chapters. I have heard lots of traction going on about Odisha. Campus Ambassador program being launched in Pune. Malayalam wiki (as a proud mallu), having traction and meets being organised. All these was done without any local chapter in place.
When you say that the India Chapter is not going to do anything for your community, you are undermining the hard-work the volunteers have done till now for the wikimedia movement all over the country without any bias.
We wouldn't have reached this stage of having the foundation office being setup in Delhi without their contribution as well Mayur, please do not forget that. All we are trying to say here is whether we need to look at a local chapter without having enough traction as a good community in place.
As you yourself has said, setup a good community, have meetups and discussion, get more volunteers as enthusiastic as Vibhi to join up, make a mark and then have the local chapter setup to guide yourself to an excellent community.
Healthy competition is what we need here, this discussion is now more or less turning out to be a personal and vindicative attack in a subtle way on many wikipedians out here who has been doing appreciable work for long.
Please let us not do that and put an end to this discussion and work towards the common goal as a unified community.
Thanks Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Not having expectations is not anybody's fault. Simply saying that the chapter isn't doing anything for your community and is doing for thr other without substantial proof is however somebody's fault. I'll let you figure out whose fault it is. --Regards,
On 6 June 2011 19:05, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
We don't have any expectatins from india chapter that why we are planning to make Delhi Chapter to grow our Community in delhi, Let hope if this chapter can do anything for indian community.Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Abhilash S Unni <abhilashunni@gmail.com
wrote:
And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is), whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion has been right?
The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having more chapter offices in India.
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
Thanks Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is exactly my question. > If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for > yourself? > --SR > > > On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I just discussed that if we can gather a good community >> in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not >> about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further >> if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of >> the Same family. >> >> Regards >> Mayur >> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >> rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Vibhi, >>> As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per >>> K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure >>> this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do >>> get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. >>> You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. >>> I suggest you concentrate on your edits. >>> I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local >>> wikiprojects? >>> Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? >>> Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization >>> >>> Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in >>> Bangalore. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 >>> The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. >>> Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group. >>> >>> Are you interested in Photography? >>> Or editing images? Maps perhaps? >>> Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we >>> can collectively contribute to the Commons. >>> >>> If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure >>> User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload >>> pictures. >>> >>> Or are you into coding? >>> Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. >>> I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru >>> these channels. >>> >>> My best wishes to you. >>> >>> --Regards, >>> SR. >>> >>> >>> On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >>>> rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bishakha, >>>>> >>>>> Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the >>>>> first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July >>>>> 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia >>>>> itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook >>>>> or Twitter ... >>>>> Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk >>>>> pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and >>>>> Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other >>>>> offline. >>>>> >>>> Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online. >>>> >>>> Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by >>>> any means necessary. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Bishakha >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> ME. >>> Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement >>> My infrastructure invasion... plus other images >>> too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > ME. > Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement > My infrastructure invasion... plus other images > too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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Do remember guys, Bangalore and Kerala meetups began much before the chapter came into existence. The Chapter formation idea was mooted after he first Bangalore meetup. --Regards,
On 6 June 2011 19:34, Surya Prakash suryasalem2010@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with Abhi. Let's proud to be having a chapter in our India. :)
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On 6 June 2011 19:30, Abhilash S Unni abhilashunni@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think this discussion is going anywhere and as someone has mentioned during the discussion its getting dirtier as well. I am going back to being fence-sitter without commenting.
Before that, I would like to bring to the notice of Mayur how some of the regional wikimedia movements has attained a lot without local chapters. I have heard lots of traction going on about Odisha. Campus Ambassador program being launched in Pune. Malayalam wiki (as a proud mallu), having traction and meets being organised. All these was done without any local chapter in place.
When you say that the India Chapter is not going to do anything for your community, you are undermining the hard-work the volunteers have done till now for the wikimedia movement all over the country without any bias.
We wouldn't have reached this stage of having the foundation office being setup in Delhi without their contribution as well Mayur, please do not forget that. All we are trying to say here is whether we need to look at a local chapter without having enough traction as a good community in place.
As you yourself has said, setup a good community, have meetups and discussion, get more volunteers as enthusiastic as Vibhi to join up, make a mark and then have the local chapter setup to guide yourself to an excellent community.
Healthy competition is what we need here, this discussion is now more or less turning out to be a personal and vindicative attack in a subtle way on many wikipedians out here who has been doing appreciable work for long.
Please let us not do that and put an end to this discussion and work towards the common goal as a unified community.
Thanks Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Not having expectations is not anybody's fault. Simply saying that the chapter isn't doing anything for your community and is doing for thr other without substantial proof is however somebody's fault. I'll let you figure out whose fault it is. --Regards,
On 6 June 2011 19:05, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
We don't have any expectatins from india chapter that why we are planning to make Delhi Chapter to grow our Community in delhi, Let hope if this chapter can do anything for indian community.Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
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wrote:
And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is), whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion has been right?
The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having more chapter offices in India.
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
Thanks Mayur
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is exactly my question. > If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all for > yourself? > --SR > > > On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I just discussed that if we can gather a good community >> in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not >> about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further >> if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of >> the Same family. >> >> Regards >> Mayur >> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >> rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Vibhi, >>> As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per >>> K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure >>> this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do >>> get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. >>> You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. >>> I suggest you concentrate on your edits. >>> I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local >>> wikiprojects? >>> Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? >>> Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization >>> >>> Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in >>> Bangalore. >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 >>> The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. >>> Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group. >>> >>> Are you interested in Photography? >>> Or editing images? Maps perhaps? >>> Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we >>> can collectively contribute to the Commons. >>> >>> If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure >>> User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload >>> pictures. >>> >>> Or are you into coding? >>> Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. >>> I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru >>> these channels. >>> >>> My best wishes to you. >>> >>> --Regards, >>> SR. >>> >>> >>> On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >>>> rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bishakha, >>>>> >>>>> Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the >>>>> first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July >>>>> 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia >>>>> itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook >>>>> or Twitter ... >>>>> Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk >>>>> pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and >>>>> Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other >>>>> offline. >>>>> >>>> Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online. >>>> >>>> Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by >>>> any means necessary. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Bishakha >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> ME. >>> Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement >>> My infrastructure invasion... plus other images >>> too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > ME. > Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement > My infrastructure invasion... plus other images > too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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In Chennai also we, Tamil Wikimedians have conducted many meet-ups & Wiki-Workshops before the birth of India chapter.
So, think about the Community development & Volunteer participation. Here after the India chapter will be a ladder for our movements. :)
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On 6 June 2011 19:36, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikanth05@gmail.com wrote:
Do remember guys, Bangalore and Kerala meetups began much before the chapter came into existence. The Chapter formation idea was mooted after he first Bangalore meetup. --Regards,
On 6 June 2011 19:34, Surya Prakash suryasalem2010@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with Abhi. Let's proud to be having a chapter in our India. :)
Proud to be a part of Wikimedia projects. :)
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On 6 June 2011 19:30, Abhilash S Unni abhilashunni@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think this discussion is going anywhere and as someone has mentioned during the discussion its getting dirtier as well. I am going back to being fence-sitter without commenting.
Before that, I would like to bring to the notice of Mayur how some of the regional wikimedia movements has attained a lot without local chapters. I have heard lots of traction going on about Odisha. Campus Ambassador program being launched in Pune. Malayalam wiki (as a proud mallu), having traction and meets being organised. All these was done without any local chapter in place.
When you say that the India Chapter is not going to do anything for your community, you are undermining the hard-work the volunteers have done till now for the wikimedia movement all over the country without any bias.
We wouldn't have reached this stage of having the foundation office being setup in Delhi without their contribution as well Mayur, please do not forget that. All we are trying to say here is whether we need to look at a local chapter without having enough traction as a good community in place.
As you yourself has said, setup a good community, have meetups and discussion, get more volunteers as enthusiastic as Vibhi to join up, make a mark and then have the local chapter setup to guide yourself to an excellent community.
Healthy competition is what we need here, this discussion is now more or less turning out to be a personal and vindicative attack in a subtle way on many wikipedians out here who has been doing appreciable work for long.
Please let us not do that and put an end to this discussion and work towards the common goal as a unified community.
Thanks Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Not having expectations is not anybody's fault. Simply saying that the chapter isn't doing anything for your community and is doing for thr other without substantial proof is however somebody's fault. I'll let you figure out whose fault it is. --Regards,
On 6 June 2011 19:05, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
We don't have any expectatins from india chapter that why we are planning to make Delhi Chapter to grow our Community in delhi, Let hope if this chapter can do anything for indian community.Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Abhilash S Unni < abhilashunni@gmail.com> wrote:
And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is), whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion has been right?
The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having more chapter offices in India.
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
> My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community > > Thanks > Mayur > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That is exactly my question. >> If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all >> for yourself? >> --SR >> >> >> On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I just discussed that if we can gather a good community >>> in delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its not >>> about to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed further >>> if we get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are part of >>> the Same family. >>> >>> Regards >>> Mayur >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >>> rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Vibhi, >>>> As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka and as per >>>> K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it. I'm pretty sure >>>> this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is, even if you do >>>> get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a member. >>>> You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia. >>>> I suggest you concentrate on your edits. >>>> I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus on local >>>> wikiprojects? >>>> Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit? >>>> Have a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization >>>> >>>> Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in >>>> Bangalore. >>>> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1 >>>> The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit Wikipedia. >>>> Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their Google Group. >>>> >>>> Are you interested in Photography? >>>> Or editing images? Maps perhaps? >>>> Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or me, we >>>> can collectively contribute to the Commons. >>>> >>>> If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure >>>> User:Shyamal will be more than happy to help you identify birds and upload >>>> pictures. >>>> >>>> Or are you into coding? >>>> Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda. >>>> I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and contributions thru >>>> these channels. >>>> >>>> My best wishes to you. >>>> >>>> --Regards, >>>> SR. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >>>>> rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bishakha, >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to point out, our community was going super strong in the >>>>>> first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu Cherian's house in July >>>>>> 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working together, on Wikipedia >>>>>> itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other, offline, on Facebook >>>>>> or Twitter ... >>>>>> Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using Users talk >>>>>> pages we got several GA and FA level articles. Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and >>>>>> Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA, without knowing each other >>>>>> offline. >>>>>> >>>>> Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than online. >>>>> >>>>> Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong community, by >>>>> any means necessary. >>>>> >>>>> Best >>>>> Bishakha >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> ME. >>>> Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement >>>> My infrastructure invasion... plus other images >>>> too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> ME. >> Wear a Lungi, Support the Movement >> My infrastructure invasion... plus other images >> too.. on Wikimedia Commons. http://bit.ly/d50SIq >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
Dear Mayur,
Oops! I suggested getting the community together as an end in itself - not as a means or first step to creating a Delhi chapter.
Cheers Bishakha
Hmm, Building Community will be benificial for both , ourself and Delhi Chapter too.:), Its a very long process, building community is our first Aim then to proceed for Delhi Chapter and Many other Wikimedia Movements too. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
Dear Mayur,
Oops! I suggested getting the community together as an end in itself - not as a means or first step to creating a Delhi chapter.
Cheers Bishakha
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Subhashish listed out a few initiatives he is working on for the Odisha Wikipeda. Learn from him. Instead of hankering about for a Chapter, he is busy on content creation, Outreach, getting more people enthusaistic, etc.
Cheers,
On 7 June 2011 10:53, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, Building Community will be benificial for both , ourself and Delhi Chapter too.:), Its a very long process, building community is our first Aim then to proceed for Delhi Chapter and Many other Wikimedia Movements too. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
Dear Mayur,
Oops! I suggested getting the community together as an end in itself - not as a means or first step to creating a Delhi chapter.
Cheers Bishakha
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Thank you for your suggestion!, we always love to learn from other.Let me tell you that we all are creating content. We just sent a mail to delhi wikimedians to join this chapter Initiative I don't know why this discussion went so long.We just told our purpose and we don't care that what anybody outside of our Community is doing, We just want to grow our community and Langguage Projects.Hindi is the Largest Language of India with about 45 crore Hindi Speakers.We are not Competing with Local Indian Languages, we want to compete with other biggest languages of the world.That's why i used the term "Excellent".We didn't waste our time in workshops and meetups, Inspite of this we among the Top Indic Wikipedia Project by number of Active users. .However Accoding to Our languagge Size this achievement is very very small,We learnt from another small languages wikipeida that taking Intiative for workshops and meetups are very useful to grow your community and its not a time wastage.Most of the Hindi Wkipedian like to write articles rather than conducting meetups and workshops.But it doen't mean that we don't have a community.We are still one of the biggest community if consider no of Active users.Thanks all for your suggestions.
Warm Regards Mayur
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:.
Subhashish listed out a few initiatives he is working on for the Odisha Wikipeda. Learn from him. Instead of hankering about for a Chapter, he is busy on content creation, Outreach, getting more people enthusaistic, etc.
Cheers,
On 7 June 2011 10:53, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, Building Community will be benificial for both , ourself and Delhi Chapter too.:), Its a very long process, building community is our first Aim then to proceed for Delhi Chapter and Many other Wikimedia Movements too. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Bishakha Datta <bishakhadatta@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
Dear Mayur,
Oops! I suggested getting the community together as an end in itself - not as a means or first step to creating a Delhi chapter.
Cheers Bishakha
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Yes, Hindi is at second position among Indian languages. Malayalam is first. They did it without a chapter. And workshops and activities aren't a waste of time. That's how things got done in the Malayalam wikipedia.
You have a lot to learn my friend, a long long way to go.
Cheers, SR
On 7 June 2011 18:47, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for your suggestion!, we always love to learn from other.Let me tell you that we all are creating content. We just sent a mail to delhi wikimedians to join this chapter Initiative I don't know why this discussion went so long.We just told our purpose and we don't care that what anybody outside of our Community is doing, We just want to grow our community and Langguage Projects.Hindi is the Largest Language of India with about 45 crore Hindi Speakers.We are not Competing with Local Indian Languages, we want to compete with other biggest languages of the world.That's why i used the term "Excellent".We didn't waste our time in workshops and meetups, Inspite of this we among the Top Indic Wikipedia Project by number of Active users. .However Accoding to Our languagge Size this achievement is very very small,We learnt from another small languages wikipeida that taking Intiative for workshops and meetups are very useful to grow your community and its not a time wastage.Most of the Hindi Wkipedian like to write articles rather than conducting meetups and workshops.But it doen't mean that we don't have a community.We are still one of the biggest community if consider no of Active users.Thanks all for your suggestions.
Warm Regards Mayur
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:.
Subhashish listed out a few initiatives he is working on for the Odisha Wikipeda. Learn from him. Instead of hankering about for a Chapter, he is busy on content creation, Outreach, getting more people enthusaistic, etc.
Cheers,
On 7 June 2011 10:53, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, Building Community will be benificial for both , ourself and Delhi Chapter too.:), Its a very long process, building community is our first Aim then to proceed for Delhi Chapter and Many other Wikimedia Movements too. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Bishakha Datta < bishakhadatta@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
Dear Mayur,
Oops! I suggested getting the community together as an end in itself - not as a means or first step to creating a Delhi chapter.
Cheers Bishakha
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SR and everyone else out there, who might be furiously drafting replies to me or to Mayur or to SR, Lets just leave this as it is. Please..
A humble request in the request of wikipedia community in India.
Let us just not have these kind of un-necessary divides and feelings coming in between.
Abhi
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, Hindi is at second position among Indian languages. Malayalam is first. They did it without a chapter. And workshops and activities aren't a waste of time. That's how things got done in the Malayalam wikipedia.
You have a lot to learn my friend, a long long way to go.
Cheers, SR
On 7 June 2011 18:47, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for your suggestion!, we always love to learn from other.Let me tell you that we all are creating content. We just sent a mail to delhi wikimedians to join this chapter Initiative I don't know why this discussion went so long.We just told our purpose and we don't care that what anybody outside of our Community is doing, We just want to grow our community and Langguage Projects.Hindi is the Largest Language of India with about 45 crore Hindi Speakers.We are not Competing with Local Indian Languages, we want to compete with other biggest languages of the world.That's why i used the term "Excellent".We didn't waste our time in workshops and meetups, Inspite of this we among the Top Indic Wikipedia Project by number of Active users. .However Accoding to Our languagge Size this achievement is very very small,We learnt from another small languages wikipeida that taking Intiative for workshops and meetups are very useful to grow your community and its not a time wastage.Most of the Hindi Wkipedian like to write articles rather than conducting meetups and workshops.But it doen't mean that we don't have a community.We are still one of the biggest community if consider no of Active users.Thanks all for your suggestions.
Warm Regards Mayur
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:.
Subhashish listed out a few initiatives he is working on for the Odisha Wikipeda. Learn from him. Instead of hankering about for a Chapter, he is busy on content creation, Outreach, getting more people enthusaistic, etc.
Cheers,
On 7 June 2011 10:53, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, Building Community will be benificial for both , ourself and Delhi Chapter too.:), Its a very long process, building community is our first Aim then to proceed for Delhi Chapter and Many other Wikimedia Movements too. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Bishakha Datta < bishakhadatta@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
Dear Mayur,
Oops! I suggested getting the community together as an end in itself - not as a means or first step to creating a Delhi chapter.
Cheers Bishakha
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Correction : A humble request in the interest of wikipedia community in India.
Dear friends
What happening now here is the splitting of community spirit. Wikimedia Movement in india is anyway unite and active irrespective of the presence and activities of chapter/ chapters And all Indian projects (irrespective of language) achieved a lot of momentum even without initiating a chapter. The purpose of Legal bodies is to stregthen this growth by using its resources and time in various ways. Leave the number of chapters we need to chapter approval bodies of wikimedia foundation.
Since Delhi Wikimedians raises the concerns about absence of India chapter's attention to North India/hindi speaking community, it is an important area of concern for the current chapter to wipe off that feeling through its activities, irrespective of whether they are applying for a new chapter or not. This list is anyway to share developments in each wikipedias , and to share best practices So lets close this discussion here and continue as the same productive active community of free knowledge activists in India
~ cheers Anivar
+ most people in the list .
-Tinu Cherian
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Anivar Aravind anivar.aravind@gmail.comwrote:
Dear friends
What happening now here is the splitting of community spirit. Wikimedia Movement in india is anyway unite and active irrespective of the presence and activities of chapter/ chapters And all Indian projects (irrespective of language) achieved a lot of momentum even without initiating a chapter. The purpose of Legal bodies is to stregthen this growth by using its resources and time in various ways. Leave the number of chapters we need to chapter approval bodies of wikimedia foundation.
Since Delhi Wikimedians raises the concerns about absence of India chapter's attention to North India/hindi speaking community, it is an important area of concern for the current chapter to wipe off that feeling through its activities, irrespective of whether they are applying for a new chapter or not. This list is anyway to share developments in each wikipedias , and to share best practices So lets close this discussion here and continue as the same productive active community of free knowledge activists in India
~ cheers Anivar
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Hmm, My dear friend these status vary from time to time, They did it without a chapter but we want to do this with a chapater.We may learn from each other but its not compulsory. Still hindi is ahead in many fields.We want Excellence.Only having largest number of users don't make us excellent.We have to do good in every field if we want excellence.Every body have to learn more and more my friend at WIkipedia thats why we are working here.
Cheers Mayur
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, Hindi is at second position among Indian languages. Malayalam is first. They did it without a chapter. And workshops and activities aren't a waste of time. That's how things got done in the Malayalam wikipedia.
You have a lot to learn my friend, a long long way to go.
Cheers, SR
On 7 June 2011 18:47, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for your suggestion!, we always love to learn from other.Let me tell you that we all are creating content. We just sent a mail to delhi wikimedians to join this chapter Initiative I don't know why this discussion went so long.We just told our purpose and we don't care that what anybody outside of our Community is doing, We just want to grow our community and Langguage Projects.Hindi is the Largest Language of India with about 45 crore Hindi Speakers.We are not Competing with Local Indian Languages, we want to compete with other biggest languages of the world.That's why i used the term "Excellent".We didn't waste our time in workshops and meetups, Inspite of this we among the Top Indic Wikipedia Project by number of Active users. .However Accoding to Our languagge Size this achievement is very very small,We learnt from another small languages wikipeida that taking Intiative for workshops and meetups are very useful to grow your community and its not a time wastage.Most of the Hindi Wkipedian like to write articles rather than conducting meetups and workshops.But it doen't mean that we don't have a community.We are still one of the biggest community if consider no of Active users.Thanks all for your suggestions.
Warm Regards Mayur
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:.
Subhashish listed out a few initiatives he is working on for the Odisha Wikipeda. Learn from him. Instead of hankering about for a Chapter, he is busy on content creation, Outreach, getting more people enthusaistic, etc.
Cheers,
On 7 June 2011 10:53, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, Building Community will be benificial for both , ourself and Delhi Chapter too.:), Its a very long process, building community is our first Aim then to proceed for Delhi Chapter and Many other Wikimedia Movements too. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Bishakha Datta < bishakhadatta@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
Dear Mayur,
Oops! I suggested getting the community together as an end in itself - not as a means or first step to creating a Delhi chapter.
Cheers Bishakha
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Dear all,
As someone who follows this list and occasionally joins in, I don't find this discussion productive. In the interests of getting on, may I please request you to stop for the time being. There is a lot of excellent work being done by everyone who has contributed to the thread, and while disagreements have been expressed, we have to learn to deal with differences politely -- over-stressing an argument usually only makes the disagreement deeper. Maybe we should all step back and chill a little, perhaps even discuss all the other things that are going on :)
Good wishes, Achal
This is going nowhere... and lots of misconceptions.... !!!
I just cant help myself commenting... Hope some sense would prevail over a period of time.
As a fence sitter, it pains a lot when I see these kind of mails going back and forth as part of a thread, related to a community as cohesive and closely knit as wikipedia is.
Can everyone just bury this hatchet and move along. All the best wishes to Mayur and Vibhi and all the wikipedians from Delhi.
Thanks, Abhi
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:47 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you for your suggestion!, we always love to learn from other.Let me tell you that we all are creating content. We just sent a mail to delhi wikimedians to join this chapter Initiative I don't know why this discussion went so long.We just told our purpose and we don't care that what anybody outside of our Community is doing, We just want to grow our community and Langguage Projects.Hindi is the Largest Language of India with about 45 crore Hindi Speakers.We are not Competing with Local Indian Languages, we want to compete with other biggest languages of the world.That's why i used the term "Excellent".We didn't waste our time in workshops and meetups, Inspite of this we among the Top Indic Wikipedia Project by number of Active users. .However Accoding to Our languagge Size this achievement is very very small,We learnt from another small languages wikipeida that taking Intiative for workshops and meetups are very useful to grow your community and its not a time wastage.Most of the Hindi Wkipedian like to write articles rather than conducting meetups and workshops.But it doen't mean that we don't have a community.We are still one of the biggest community if consider no of Active users.Thanks all for your suggestions.
Warm Regards Mayur
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:.
Subhashish listed out a few initiatives he is working on for the Odisha Wikipeda. Learn from him. Instead of hankering about for a Chapter, he is busy on content creation, Outreach, getting more people enthusaistic, etc.
Cheers,
On 7 June 2011 10:53, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, Building Community will be benificial for both , ourself and Delhi Chapter too.:), Its a very long process, building community is our first Aim then to proceed for Delhi Chapter and Many other Wikimedia Movements too. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Bishakha Datta < bishakhadatta@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:05 PM, mayur mayurdce@gmail.com wrote:
Till then we can arrange some workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
Dear Mayur,
Oops! I suggested getting the community together as an end in itself - not as a means or first step to creating a Delhi chapter.
Cheers Bishakha
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