Hi all,
I am writing this mail to ask Chapter folks / Wikimedians experienced in Global Fundraising as to get some information on our preparedness to support INR currency in the Global Fundraising initiative which would be up later this year. I am under impression, Chapter is one of the pre-requisite. Now that we have a Chapter and that it has a bank account, I would like to know what else would it take to support INR this year. I would appreciate if Chapter takes this up as a key project(I dont see this listed currently) and helps in this since it is largely in legal / administration thing. I hope the community would always do its part, be it translating the banners, things which can be done by individual contributors.
* Providing support to donations in INR is 1st priority * Optionally providing tax rebate under donations, would attract more donors.
Regards Srikanth.L http://srik.me
Hey Srikanth:
Timely reminder - but as always, bureaucracy is a stumbling block. 80G registration takes a long time - we can only apply around 6 months after registration and so this is going to take a while longer.
=(
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/
On 13 June 2011 21:28, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I am writing this mail to ask Chapter folks / Wikimedians experienced in Global Fundraising as to get some information on our preparedness to support INR currency in the Global Fundraising initiative which would be up later this year. I am under impression, Chapter is one of the pre-requisite. Now that we have a Chapter and that it has a bank account, I would like to know what else would it take to support INR this year. I would appreciate if Chapter takes this up as a key project(I dont see this listed currently) and helps in this since it is largely in legal / administration thing. I hope the community would always do its part, be it translating the banners, things which can be done by individual contributors.
- Providing support to donations in INR is 1st priority
- Optionally providing tax rebate under donations, would attract more
donors.
Regards Srikanth.L
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Hi,
Many organisations registered as societies are facing problems because of their registration for 80G exemption. The I Tax procedures are too time consuming and needs lot of your time/manpower and other resources.
Some of my friends who suffered because of 80G registrations advised not to go for 80G. If someone is asking for exemption, just cut off that much money and take that much less donations.
Unless the amounts received are real HUGE, it is not worth going for 80G registration.
Well, the choice is yours.(I mean the chapter in this case)
...my 2 paisa...
-Sudhanwa
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.org wrote:
Hey Srikanth:
Timely reminder - but as always, bureaucracy is a stumbling block. 80G registration takes a long time - we can only apply around 6 months after registration and so this is going to take a while longer.
=(
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/
On 13 June 2011 21:28, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I am writing this mail to ask Chapter folks / Wikimedians experienced in Global Fundraising as to get some information on our preparedness to support INR currency in the Global Fundraising initiative which would be up later this year. I am under impression, Chapter is one of the pre-requisite. Now that we have a Chapter and that it has a bank account, I would like to know what else would it take to support INR this year. I would appreciate if Chapter takes this up as a key project(I dont see this listed currently) and helps in this since it is largely in legal / administration thing. I hope the community would always do its part, be it translating the banners, things which can be done by individual contributors.
- Providing support to donations in INR is 1st priority
- Optionally providing tax rebate under donations, would attract more
donors.
Regards Srikanth.L
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Thanks, Sudhanwa. I'm thinking there are many donors who would like 80G as well but not all of them do.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/
On 14 June 2011 00:03, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa.com@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Many organisations registered as societies are facing problems because of their registration for 80G exemption. The I Tax procedures are too time consuming and needs lot of your time/manpower and other resources.
Some of my friends who suffered because of 80G registrations advised not to go for 80G. If someone is asking for exemption, just cut off that much money and take that much less donations.
Unless the amounts received are real HUGE, it is not worth going for 80G registration.
Well, the choice is yours.(I mean the chapter in this case)
...my 2 paisa...
-Sudhanwa
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.org wrote:
Hey Srikanth:
Timely reminder - but as always, bureaucracy is a stumbling block. 80G registration takes a long time - we can only apply around 6 months after registration and so this is going to take a while longer.
=(
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/
On 13 June 2011 21:28, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I am writing this mail to ask Chapter folks / Wikimedians experienced in Global Fundraising as to get some information on our preparedness to support INR currency in the Global Fundraising initiative which would be up later this year. I am under impression, Chapter is one of the pre-requisite. Now that we have a Chapter and that it has a bank account, I would like to know what else would it take to support INR this year. I would appreciate if Chapter takes this up as a key project(I dont see this listed currently) and helps in this since it is largely in legal / administration thing. I hope the community would always do its part, be it translating the banners, things which can be done by individual contributors.
- Providing support to donations in INR is 1st priority
- Optionally providing tax rebate under donations, would attract more
donors.
Regards Srikanth.L
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Aww, bureaucracy!
I think 80G is nice to have, but shouldnt stop us. Also we are not probably looking at large scale(We would love if they come), but typically my equivalents to 5 10 20 dollors would 250 500 1000 INR for which most would not take trouble of getting receipts and eventually getting the benefit(Atleast the folks who do online donations) since the tax benefit would be negligible.
So my next question is without which are we eligible to collect donations online, would just like to know the bureaucracy around it? I now know the chapter can receive donations through NEFT[1].If we are good to go then the next thing to work out would be a payment gateway / payments partner helping us in giving options to various bank netbanking / credit/debit cards, ofcourse a decent API. The more the merrier. Also if we could get some sponsorship/deal from them in terms of the cut they take for transaction cost. People who have experience with online payment solutions can add their inputs.
[1] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/images/9/92/Wikimedia_Donation_Form.pdf
Regards Srikanth.L http://srik.me
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 22:21, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.org wrote:
Hey Srikanth:
Timely reminder - but as always, bureaucracy is a stumbling block. 80G registration takes a long time - we can only apply around 6 months after registration and so this is going to take a while longer.
=(
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/
On 13 June 2011 21:28, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I am writing this mail to ask Chapter folks / Wikimedians experienced in Global Fundraising as to get some information on our preparedness to
support
INR currency in the Global Fundraising initiative which would be up later this year. I am under impression, Chapter is one of the pre-requisite.
Now
that we have a Chapter and that it has a bank account, I would like to
know
what else would it take to support INR this year. I would appreciate if Chapter takes this up as a key project(I dont see this listed currently)
and
helps in this since it is largely in legal / administration thing. I hope the community would always do its part, be it translating the banners, things which can be done by individual contributors.
- Providing support to donations in INR is 1st priority
- Optionally providing tax rebate under donations, would attract more
donors.
Regards Srikanth.L
Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
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And http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Chapter_Fundraising_Agreemen... also needs to be looked at in detail.
Regards Srikanth.L
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 22:21, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.org wrote:
Hey Srikanth:
Timely reminder - but as always, bureaucracy is a stumbling block. 80G registration takes a long time - we can only apply around 6 months after registration and so this is going to take a while longer.
I think 80G is nice to have, but shouldnt stop us. Also we are not probably looking at large scale(We would love if they come), but typically my equivalents to 5 10 20 dollors would 250 500 1000 INR for which most would not take trouble of getting receipts and eventually getting the benefit(Atleast the folks who do online donations) since the tax benefit would be negligible.
+1
So my next question is without which are we eligible to collect donations online, would just like to know the bureaucracy around it? I now know the chapter can receive donations through NEFT[1].If we are good to go then the next thing to work out would be a payment gateway / payments partner helping us in giving options to various bank netbanking / credit/debit cards, ofcourse a decent API. The more the merrier. Also if we could get some sponsorship/deal from them in terms of the cut they take for transaction cost. People who have experience with online payment solutions can add their inputs.
http://www.ccavenue.com/ works best for accepting payments online from various netbanking accounts in India.
Thanks for the timely reminder and initiative on this, Srikanth.
Ravi
Iv had some fundraising experience with charities - both in India and the UK. The simplest method of accepting payment is tying up with an external party such as http://www.justgiving.com/ (from experience - this is one of many that specialise in online fundraising for charities in the UK). If the amount is relatively small this makes sense, however for higher amounts we may as well sign up with a merchant as that would be cheaper if we have volume. Rather than requesting funds through NEFT (which is a better mode for payments such as membership fee etc), for this you could opt for Net Banking or even cheques by post!
As for 80G, the more you run after it the more the babu will want from you. If you put a bundle on the table, the certificate will be in your hand in days. However, from experience I can tell you, if you dont bother about it - just complete official formalities, the form will come by post to your office in due course.
Kind Regards,
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:22:03 +0530 From: ravidreams@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Global Fund raising Support to Indian Currency
I think 80G is nice to have, but shouldnt stop us. Also we are not probably looking at large scale(We would love if they come), but typically my equivalents to 5 10 20 dollors would 250 500 1000 INR for which most would not take trouble of getting receipts and eventually getting the benefit(Atleast the folks who do online donations) since the tax benefit would be negligible.
+1
So my next question is without which are we eligible to collect donations online, would just like to know the bureaucracy around it? I now know the chapter can receive donations through NEFT[1].If we are good to go then the next thing to work out would be a payment gateway / payments partner helping us in giving options to various bank netbanking / credit/debit cards, ofcourse a decent API. The more the merrier. Also if we could get some sponsorship/deal from them in terms of the cut they take for transaction cost. People who have experience with online payment solutions can add their inputs.
http://www.ccavenue.com/ works best for accepting payments online from various netbanking accounts in India.
Thanks for the timely reminder and initiative on this, Srikanth.
Ravi
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Similar to justgiving.com in UK, we have something closer home giveindia.org. We can actually use their platform for commerce. Give India provides these facilities only to charities. They keep a nominal fees for a transaction.
If everyone is ok with this. I would be happy to connect the individual to the giveindia.org.
Moksh Juneja
Social Media Catalyst
Avignyata Inc. <avignyata.com>
Mobile: +91 93221 21170 My profiles: [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/mokshjuneja [image: LinkedIn] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mokshjuneja [image: Flickr]http://www.flickr.com/photos/mokshjuneja [image: Twitter] http://twitter.com/mokshjuneja [image: foursquare]http://foursquare.com/mokshjuneja [image: SlideShare] http://www.slideshare.net/mokshjuneja [image: YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/mokshjuneja Contact me: [image: Google Talk] mokshjuneja [image: Skype] mokshjuneja [image: BlackBerry] 21922c20 [image: Twitter] http://twitter.com/mokshjuneja Latest tweet: Dear 107.1 FM, I love beatles, but not every morning!! Follow @mokshjuneja http://twitter.com/mokshjuneja http://twitter.com/?status=@mokshjuneja%20&in_reply_to_status_id=80497688566706180&in_reply_to=mokshjuneja Replyhttp://twitter.com/?status=@mokshjuneja%20&in_reply_to_status_id=80497688566706180&in_reply_to=mokshjuneja http://twitter.com/?status=RT%20%40mokshjuneja%3A%20Dear%20107.1%20FM%2C%20I%20love%20beatles%2C%20but%20not%20every%20morning%21%21 Retweethttp://twitter.com/?status=RT%20%40mokshjuneja%3A%20Dear%20107.1%20FM%2C%20I%20love%20beatles%2C%20but%20not%20every%20morning%21%21 10:21 Jun-14 http://twitter.com/mokshjuneja/statuses/80497688566706180
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:25, wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com wrote:
Iv had some fundraising experience with charities - both in India and the UK. The simplest method of accepting payment is tying up with an external party such as http://www.justgiving.com/ (from experience - this is one of many that specialise in online fundraising for charities in the UK). If the amount is relatively small this makes sense, however for higher amounts we may as well sign up with a merchant as that would be cheaper if we have volume. Rather than requesting funds through NEFT (which is a better mode for payments such as membership fee etc), for this you could opt for Net Banking or even cheques by post!
As for 80G, the more you run after it the more the babu will want from you. If you put a bundle on the table, the certificate will be in your hand in days. However, from experience I can tell you, if you dont bother about it - just complete official formalities, the form will come by post to your office in due course.
Kind Regards,
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:22:03 +0530 From: ravidreams@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Global Fund raising Support to Indian Currency
I think 80G is nice to have, but shouldnt stop us. Also we are not probably looking at large scale(We would love if they come), but typically my equivalents to 5 10 20 dollors would 250 500 1000 INR for which most would not take trouble of getting receipts and eventually getting the benefit(Atleast the folks who do online donations) since the tax benefit would be negligible.
+1
So my next question is without which are we eligible to collect donations online, would just like to know the bureaucracy around it? I now know the chapter can receive donations through NEFT[1].If we are good to go then the next thing to work out would be a payment gateway / payments partner helping us in giving options to various bank netbanking / credit/debit cards, ofcourse a decent API. The more the merrier. Also if we could get some sponsorship/deal from them in terms of the cut they take for transaction cost. People who have experience with online payment solutions can add their inputs.
http://www.ccavenue.com/ works best for accepting payments online from various netbanking accounts in India.
Thanks for the timely reminder and initiative on this, Srikanth.
Ravi
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Hi Moksh:
That would be great! Thank you very much for the offer.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/
On 14 June 2011 10:36, Moksh Juneja moksh.juneja@avignyata.com wrote:
Similar to justgiving.com in UK, we have something closer home giveindia.org. We can actually use their platform for commerce. Give India provides these facilities only to charities. They keep a nominal fees for a transaction.
If everyone is ok with this. I would be happy to connect the individual to the giveindia.org.
Moksh Juneja
Social Media Catalyst
Avignyata Inc. http://avignyata.com
Mobile: +91 93221 21170 My profiles: [image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/mokshjuneja [image: LinkedIn] http://www.linkedin.com/in/mokshjuneja [image: Flickr]http://www.flickr.com/photos/mokshjuneja [image: Twitter] http://twitter.com/mokshjuneja [image: foursquare]http://foursquare.com/mokshjuneja [image: SlideShare] http://www.slideshare.net/mokshjuneja [image: YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/mokshjuneja Contact me: [image: Google Talk] mokshjuneja [image: Skype] mokshjuneja [image: BlackBerry] 21922c20 [image: Twitter] http://twitter.com/mokshjuneja Latest tweet: Dear 107.1 FM, I love beatles, but not every morning!! Follow @mokshjuneja http://twitter.com/mokshjuneja http://twitter.com/?status=@mokshjuneja%20&in_reply_to_status_id=80497688566706180&in_reply_to=mokshjuneja Replyhttp://twitter.com/?status=@mokshjuneja%20&in_reply_to_status_id=80497688566706180&in_reply_to=mokshjuneja http://twitter.com/?status=RT%20%40mokshjuneja%3A%20Dear%20107.1%20FM%2C%20I%20love%20beatles%2C%20but%20not%20every%20morning%21%21 Retweethttp://twitter.com/?status=RT%20%40mokshjuneja%3A%20Dear%20107.1%20FM%2C%20I%20love%20beatles%2C%20but%20not%20every%20morning%21%21 10:21 Jun-14http://twitter.com/mokshjuneja/statuses/80497688566706180
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:25, wheredevelsdare@hotmail.com wrote:
Iv had some fundraising experience with charities - both in India and the UK. The simplest method of accepting payment is tying up with an external party such as http://www.justgiving.com/ (from experience - this is one of many that specialise in online fundraising for charities in the UK). If the amount is relatively small this makes sense, however for higher amounts we may as well sign up with a merchant as that would be cheaper if we have volume. Rather than requesting funds through NEFT (which is a better mode for payments such as membership fee etc), for this you could opt for Net Banking or even cheques by post!
As for 80G, the more you run after it the more the babu will want from you. If you put a bundle on the table, the certificate will be in your hand in days. However, from experience I can tell you, if you dont bother about it - just complete official formalities, the form will come by post to your office in due course.
Kind Regards,
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:22:03 +0530 From: ravidreams@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Global Fund raising Support to Indian Currency
I think 80G is nice to have, but shouldnt stop us. Also we are not probably looking at large scale(We would love if they come), but typically my equivalents to 5 10 20 dollors would 250 500 1000 INR for which most would not take trouble of getting receipts and eventually getting the benefit(Atleast the folks who do online donations) since the tax benefit would be negligible.
+1
So my next question is without which are we eligible to collect donations online, would just like to know the bureaucracy around it? I now know the chapter can receive donations through NEFT[1].If we are good to go then the next thing to work out would be a payment gateway / payments partner helping us in giving options to various bank netbanking / credit/debit cards, ofcourse a decent API. The more the merrier. Also if we could get some sponsorship/deal from them in terms of the cut they take for transaction cost. People who have experience with online payment solutions can add their inputs.
http://www.ccavenue.com/ works best for accepting payments online from various netbanking accounts in India.
Thanks for the timely reminder and initiative on this, Srikanth.
Ravi
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On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 06:22, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.ccavenue.com/ works best for accepting payments online from various netbanking accounts in India.
Not sure how safe and compliant with Wikimedia policies especially after the recent "h[crac]acker" attack on the site.
Also there seems to be a FAQ and deadlines page which states June 30 as last date for signing off agreements. Can the chapter take some swift action / work with foundation so that we don't miss the boat even if we are few days late.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Chapters_FAQ_and_deadlines
Regards Srikanth.L
Srikanth - we've been working on it but there are *several* complications due to Indian foreign exchange and tax laws that are slowing quick progress.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/
On 14 June 2011 11:11, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 06:22, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.ccavenue.com/ works best for accepting payments online from various netbanking accounts in India.
Not sure how safe and compliant with Wikimedia policies especially after the recent "h[crac]acker" attack on the site. Also there seems to be a FAQ and deadlines page which states June 30 as last date for signing off agreements. Can the chapter take some swift action / work with foundation so that we don't miss the boat even if we are few days late. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Chapters_FAQ_and_deadlines Regards Srikanth.L
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