IEP will be moving things to Simple Wiki I see, I wonder who suggested this, in March - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:India_Education_Program/Analysi… Or else, this could be the result of exhaustive internal quantitative, qualitative, esoteric or even Isometric analysis, that was in waiting for a while. It would have been nice to get some acknowledgement; not to mention the dearth of ideas from staff. I also suggested incorporating the help channel on IRC, contracting editors remotely, and starting with Tier-l cities in India and only established institutions, at some or the other point during the last year. As usual, most of my feedback was ignored. And then people wonder why I sound angry half the time when talking about these things. Anyway, like the two editors who commented on that suggestion, I agree with them more and more now. Writing simple English actually requires a stronger command of the English language than standard, not to mention it doesn't exclude all the requirements of verifiability and copyright violations. Maybe students can copy over entire articles directly from English Wikipedia to simple wiki, and this will happen a lot. What can be hoped for, is that copyvio and errors will go unnoticed for the most part and given simple wiki's small size and tiny community, it is entirely possible they will be unnoticed, and even if they were, it won't generate a strong reaction. Regards Theo On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Nitika Tandon <ntandon(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote:

Ravi, the Simple English wikipedia has one of the lowest visibility rates for a Wikipedia, atleast to Indian readers, from my experience. As Theo stated, if anyone screws up, there will be noone to complain or monitor it. Maybe then, they'd call it a success. I think I should start there now. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan.

Hi Just to update this list, simple wiki community has opposed this. The current votes stand at 6 opposes and 3 support with 1 editor waiting to confirm his vote. http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Simple_talk#Agreement I had a good conversation about this yesterday with Frank on wiki and Rob on IRC. I trust and respect Frank - he knows the education program and the community better than anyone. I got a different impression from them, they seemed open to working on this and coming up with a good solution agreeable to all parties- like this wasn't a done deal. I trust both of them will do the right thing in the interest of the community. I did however get a different impression from reading the most recent comments in Nitika's table on Wiki. So, I would like to state this - I consider myself part of simple wiki community, I have edited there for a while last year and know a few of the editors. I will not let this be pushed without their support and approval. There has been a few ideas kicking around Meta, a cross-wiki arbcom has been discussed for a while. If need be I will create it on Meta or locally, or find another way, just to deny this being pushed and not let the community be undermined. I greatly respect Frank and know he will not let it come down to that, but just in case anyone on the india side thinks, this will happen without the community on simple wiki - they would be wrong. They have to convince the simple wiki community first, they will not be circumvented. Regards Theo On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

The discussion has been moved to http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_Indian_Education_Program --Re On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan &lt;srik.lak(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan.