Dear Executive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested in misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
*The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If
the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from Chapter representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from Secretary was-
*.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time Chapter Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes training the A2K team. (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
*Please be open and transparent to the
community. The more you become transparent, it is better for al*l.
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
* The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,*
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes from individual donations. So ideally Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead of correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!) Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept everyone in dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole mailing list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially whenever needed. (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for outreach/activities.
*Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and
works for the community *
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are your representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete) truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS - *
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in good-faith,
unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However Chapter also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I don't understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
*CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will
also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the ** training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fee*s.
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too. And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other activities, then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized and dedicated efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in loop. And Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sunil Abraham sunil@mahiti.org Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate To: Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant. CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how we should structure this report or if you have any further questions about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530 From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Karthik Nadar Anirudh Singh Bhati Nikita Belavate Pranav Curumsey Srikanth Ramakrishnan Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support movement in India. Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support
as
per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so
your
reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
Abhishek,
I noticed that you have been repetitively raising the same issues over and over again. The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions. It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
I have to ask you to please refrain from sending further emails on this topic. If you ignore this warning, I will have to put your account on moderation.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Executive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested in misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from Chapter representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from Secretary was-
.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time Chapter Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes training the A2K team. (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes from individual donations. So ideally Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead of correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!) Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept everyone in dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole mailing list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially whenever needed. (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for outreach/activities.
Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are your representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete) truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS -
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in good-faith, unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However Chapter also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I don't understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too. And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other activities, then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized and dedicated efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in loop. And Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sunil Abraham sunil@mahiti.org Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate To: Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant. CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how we should structure this report or if you have any further questions about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530 From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Karthik Nadar Anirudh Singh Bhati Nikita Belavate Pranav Curumsey Srikanth Ramakrishnan Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support movement in India. Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support as per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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Dear Abhishek,
I am a relatively disinterested party (no implication on others' interest, but certainly from your perspective I am quite disinterested (not uninterested)) in this matter. You have certainly made your point. I (and perhaps many others who have not chosen to respond or engage) have taken in your view on this matter and the implications of what you say. There have been responses from people you have raised issues with and their response is also on record.
In the interest of the list discussion remaining useful and healthy, I also request you to desist from raking the same points again and again. Perhaps, if you feel that the responses were not clear enough (or were not sufficient in content), you need to take it up through other channels. The limitations of an email discussion list certainly do not allow for more than this.
Regards, Prashanth
On 14 February 2013 19:50, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.com wrote:
Abhishek,
I noticed that you have been repetitively raising the same issues over and over again. The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions. It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
I have to ask you to please refrain from sending further emails on this topic. If you ignore this warning, I will have to put your account on moderation.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Executive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested in misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from Chapter representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from Secretary was-
.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time Chapter Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes training the A2K team. (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes from individual donations. So ideally Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead of correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!) Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept everyone in dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole mailing list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially whenever needed. (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for outreach/activities.
Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are your representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete) truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS -
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in good-faith, unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However Chapter also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I don't understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too. And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other activities, then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized and dedicated efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in loop. And Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sunil Abraham sunil@mahiti.org Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate To: Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant. CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how we should structure this report or if you have any further questions about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530 From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Karthik Nadar Anirudh Singh Bhati Nikita Belavate Pranav Curumsey Srikanth Ramakrishnan Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support movement in India. Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support as per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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Dear Prashanth,
*In the interest of the list discussion remaining useful and healthy, I
also request you to desist from raking the same points again and again. Perhaps, if you feel that the responses were not clear enough (or were not sufficient in content), you need to take it up through other channels. The limitations of an email discussion list certainly do not allow for more than thi*s.
Sorry for 'pushing' my points again n again on public mailing lists. Thank you so much for highlighting other channels.
@Dear Anirudh :
I want to apologize for tone. However I am confused about moderation part. I was searching answers, and as stated above - I do agree - pushing part was unnecessary. If moderation was purely done for ignoring warning then I am sorry for that.
I do understand moderators of this list are volunteers, and I completely respect their decisions.
Regarding this thread, by assuming good faith I believe EC will reply soon - I would prefer to wait for reply instead of pushing.
Hope so moderation mode will be deactivated soon.
With sincere apologies,
Abhishek Suryawanshi
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Prashanth N S prashanth.ns@gmail.comwrote:
Dear Abhishek,
I am a relatively disinterested party (no implication on others' interest, but certainly from your perspective I am quite disinterested (not uninterested)) in this matter. You have certainly made your point. I (and perhaps many others who have not chosen to respond or engage) have taken in your view on this matter and the implications of what you say. There have been responses from people you have raised issues with and their response is also on record.
In the interest of the list discussion remaining useful and healthy, I also request you to desist from raking the same points again and again. Perhaps, if you feel that the responses were not clear enough (or were not sufficient in content), you need to take it up through other channels. The limitations of an email discussion list certainly do not allow for more than this.
Regards, Prashanth
On 14 February 2013 19:50, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.com wrote:
Abhishek,
I noticed that you have been repetitively raising the same issues over and over again. The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions. It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
I have to ask you to please refrain from sending further emails on this topic. If you ignore this warning, I will have to put your account on moderation.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Executive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested
in
misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so.
If
the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from
Chapter
representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from Secretary was-
.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time Chapter Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes training the A2K team. (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes
from
individual donations. So ideally Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead
of
correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!) Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept
everyone in
dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole
mailing
list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially whenever needed. (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for
outreach/activities.
Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are your representation! Either consult community before lying or speak
(complete)
truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS -
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in
good-faith,
unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However
Chapter
also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I
don't
understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS
will
also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too. And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other
activities,
then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized and
dedicated
efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in
loop. And
Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sunil Abraham sunil@mahiti.org Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate To: Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia India Community list <
wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant. CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how we should structure this report or if you have any further questions about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530 From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Karthik Nadar Anirudh Singh Bhati Nikita Belavate Pranav Curumsey Srikanth Ramakrishnan Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support movement in India. Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can
support
as per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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Dear Anirudh,
Please direct me to the response/clarification from Wikimedia India Executive Committee.
Only Sunil has made the whole thing clear and now its "only" You who is saying - It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.comwrote:
Abhishek,
I noticed that you have been repetitively raising the same issues over and over again. The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions. It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
I have to ask you to please refrain from sending further emails on this topic. If you ignore this warning, I will have to put your account on moderation.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Executive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested
in
misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from
Chapter
representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from Secretary was-
.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time Chapter Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes training the A2K team. (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes
from
individual donations. So ideally Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead
of
correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!) Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept
everyone in
dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole mailing list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially whenever needed. (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for
outreach/activities.
Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are your representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete) truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS -
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in
good-faith,
unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However
Chapter
also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I
don't
understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too. And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other
activities,
then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized and
dedicated
efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in loop.
And
Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sunil Abraham sunil@mahiti.org Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate To: Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant. CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how we should structure this report or if you have any further questions about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530 From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Karthik Nadar Anirudh Singh Bhati Nikita Belavate Pranav Curumsey Srikanth Ramakrishnan Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support movement in India. Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support as per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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Abhishek,
The chapter's response has been to ask you to stop making unsubstantiated allegations. Sunil has clarified that that the WMF sponsored A2K programme is funding travel and accommodation of some members of the Wikimedia India Executive Committee for the purpose of a training session in Bangalore organized for the benefit of the new employee(s) of CIS/A2K. This is the sole purpose of funding travel and accommodation from CIS/A2K perspective and nothing else. What the members of the WMIN board decide to do in their spare time while they are available in the same city is up to them. If they use this time to organize a face to face board meeting, all the more better, since this way they save some precious chapter funds. Your accusation that the chapter is misleading the community is a falsification.
Since you have chosen to ignore my previous warning and continued to post on the same topic on this mailing list, I have put your account on moderation. If you wish to discuss this matter further, please feel free to send an email to the chapter directly.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Anirudh,
Please direct me to the response/clarification from Wikimedia India Executive Committee.
Only Sunil has made the whole thing clear and now its "only" You who is saying - It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.com wrote:
Abhishek,
I noticed that you have been repetitively raising the same issues over and over again. The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions. It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
I have to ask you to please refrain from sending further emails on this topic. If you ignore this warning, I will have to put your account on moderation.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Executive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested in misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from Chapter representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from Secretary was-
.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time Chapter Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes training the A2K team. (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes from individual donations. So ideally Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead of correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!) Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept everyone in dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole mailing list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially whenever needed. (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for outreach/activities.
Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are your representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete) truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS -
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in good-faith, unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However Chapter also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I don't understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too. And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other activities, then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized and dedicated efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in loop. And Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sunil Abraham sunil@mahiti.org Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate To: Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant. CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how we should structure this report or if you have any further questions about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530 From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Karthik Nadar Anirudh Singh Bhati Nikita Belavate Pranav Curumsey Srikanth Ramakrishnan Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support movement in India. Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support as per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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Looks like Manmohan Singh maintaining silence and Kapil Sibbal giving his best to censor media to keep image clean.
*The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions.*
I am also unable to find responce/clarification from EC. I can see just you and Sunil@CIS explaining scenario. Please care enough to redirect people to same?
Regards, Niranjan Patel Long Live Democracy!
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.com wrote:
Abhishek,
The chapter's response has been to ask you to stop making unsubstantiated allegations. Sunil has clarified that that the WMF sponsored A2K programme is funding travel and accommodation of some members of the Wikimedia India Executive Committee for the purpose of a training session in Bangalore organized for the benefit of the new employee(s) of CIS/A2K. This is the sole purpose of funding travel and accommodation from CIS/A2K perspective and nothing else. What the members of the WMIN board decide to do in their spare time while they are available in the same city is up to them. If they use this time to organize a face to face board meeting, all the more better, since this way they save some precious chapter funds. Your accusation that the chapter is misleading the community is a falsification.
Since you have chosen to ignore my previous warning and continued to post on the same topic on this mailing list, I have put your account on moderation. If you wish to discuss this matter further, please feel free to send an email to the chapter directly.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Anirudh,
Please direct me to the response/clarification from Wikimedia India Executive Committee.
Only Sunil has made the whole thing clear and now its "only" You who is saying - It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will
be
travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.com wrote:
Abhishek,
I noticed that you have been repetitively raising the same issues over and over again. The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions. It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
I have to ask you to please refrain from sending further emails on this topic. If you ignore this warning, I will have to put your account on moderation.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Executive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is
interested
in misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they
are
funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there
is
strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from Chapter representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from Secretary was-
.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time
Chapter
Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes training the A2K team. (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes from individual donations. So ideally Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just
its
members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered''
instead
of correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for
Board
Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!) Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept everyone in dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole mailing list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter
financially
whenever needed. (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for outreach/activities.
Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are
your
representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete) truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS -
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also
organising
a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in good-faith, unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However Chapter also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I don't understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too. And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other activities, then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized and dedicated efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in
loop.
And Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sunil Abraham sunil@mahiti.org Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate To: Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant. CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how we should structure this report or if you have any further questions about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530 From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Karthik Nadar Anirudh Singh Bhati Nikita Belavate Pranav Curumsey Srikanth Ramakrishnan Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and
24th
of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one
day
training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt
for
either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS
will
also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter
Travel
expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support movement in India. Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support as per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope
so
your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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I agree with my friend Niranjan Patel. Wont it be better if the *EC directly clarifies all doubts *& settle this debate once & for all.
A concerned Wikimedian Yohann Thomas
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Niranjan Patel patel.nieranjan@gmail.comwrote:
Looks like Manmohan Singh maintaining silence and Kapil Sibbal giving his best to censor media to keep image clean.
*The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions.*
I am also unable to find responce/clarification from EC. I can see just you and Sunil@CIS explaining scenario. Please care enough to redirect people to same?
Regards, Niranjan Patel Long Live Democracy!
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.comwrote:
Abhishek,
The chapter's response has been to ask you to stop making unsubstantiated allegations. Sunil has clarified that that the WMF sponsored A2K programme is funding travel and accommodation of some members of the Wikimedia India Executive Committee for the purpose of a training session in Bangalore organized for the benefit of the new employee(s) of CIS/A2K. This is the sole purpose of funding travel and accommodation from CIS/A2K perspective and nothing else. What the members of the WMIN board decide to do in their spare time while they are available in the same city is up to them. If they use this time to organize a face to face board meeting, all the more better, since this way they save some precious chapter funds. Your accusation that the chapter is misleading the community is a falsification.
Since you have chosen to ignore my previous warning and continued to post on the same topic on this mailing list, I have put your account on moderation. If you wish to discuss this matter further, please feel free to send an email to the chapter directly.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Anirudh,
Please direct me to the response/clarification from Wikimedia India Executive Committee.
Only Sunil has made the whole thing clear and now its "only" You who is saying - It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will
be
travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.com wrote:
Abhishek,
I noticed that you have been repetitively raising the same issues over and over again. The members of the Executive Committee of Wikimedia India and Sunil@CIS have already responded to your questions. It is clear to us all that some members of the Executive committee will be travelling to Bangalore in order to train the new employees of CIS on matters pertaining to their new assignments. The Executive Committee has decided to utilize this time when all the members of the board are in the same city together to have a face to face meeting. There is nothing that has been said that goes to prove that CIS regularly funds chapter activities.
I have to ask you to please refrain from sending further emails on this topic. If you ignore this warning, I will have to put your account on moderation.
Thanks, Anirudh
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Executive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is
interested
in misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do
so.
If the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they
are
funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary -
there is
strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from Chapter representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from Secretary was-
.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time
Chapter
Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes training the A2K team. (CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
Please be open and transparent to the community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which
comes
from individual donations. So ideally Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just
its
members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered''
instead
of correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for
Board
Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!) Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept everyone in dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole mailing list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter
financially
whenever needed. (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do
so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for outreach/activities.
Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and works for the community
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that
community
should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are
your
representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete) truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS -
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also
organising
a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil extended the offer in good-faith, unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However Chapter also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I don't understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too. And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other activities, then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized and dedicated efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in
loop.
And Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sunil Abraham sunil@mahiti.org Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate To: Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com Cc: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor
has
CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant. CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also
organising
a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an
annual
consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how we should structure this report or if you have any further questions about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530 From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Karthik Nadar Anirudh Singh Bhati Nikita Belavate Pranav Curumsey Srikanth Ramakrishnan Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and
24th
of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one
day
training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt
for
either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS
will
also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter
Travel
expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to
support
movement in India. Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support as per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS -
Hope so
your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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You sound like you had a bad deal with the Chapter.Did you try and blackmail them or did the chapter NOT pay you any money? The way you are targeting them makes it very apparent.Yes, the Chapter did mislead the community.Their aim is to promote and support Wikimedia projects and open access in the country.They supported your Wikimedia India Summit in January. I'm sure with the current board members, they would not have supported you blindly. There would have been a compromise.Where did YOU get money for such an event from?There was no grant application on Meta, or the Chapter wiki.
From: i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:46:41 +0530 To: wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wmin-members@googlegroups.com; wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Chapter Misleading Community!
Dear Executive Committee, Wikimedia India Chapter.
Could you be please be kind enough to clarify, Why EC was/is interested in misguiding mailing list and Indian community?
When asked about CIS funding - Executive Committee member wrote :
The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
Then why weren't they made public by you? CIS clearly stated - they are funding Chapter, and in past (also) they have supported in-kind.
Why is the hesitation for acknowledging this? On the contrary - there is strong rejection of even having any kind of connection with CIS from Chapter representatives. (On the other hand CIS is graciously open/alright to acknowledge links with the Chapter)
On A Query about CIS funding Chapter Flight Tickets : Response from Secretary was-
.....making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,
Which part was unsubstantiated? Its the reality that this time Chapter Board Member's Flight tickets ARE covered by CIS even if it includes training the A2K team.
(CIS has already made it clear on this mailing list)
Why there is hesitation/resistance to have transparency?
Also, the Chapter President gave statement on same thread -
Please be open and transparent to the
community. The more you become transparent, it is better for all.
Are Chapter EC Members exception to this?
On same lines, Another EC Members says -
The Chapter is financially accountable to it's MEMBERS,
As correctly stated by , Chapter is having money from WMF, Which comes from individual donations. So ideally
Chapter should be accountable to the overall community and not just its members, as rightly pointed out by someone
Again, What is the need to find excuses for transparency?
When there was statement that ''AGM travel expense is covered'' instead of correcting statement and saying, its wrong - and CIS is paying for Board Trip (which is coinciding with CIS training!)
Even Chapter President preferred to give out half truth and kept everyone in dark. And there was Secretary and another EC Member to take whole mailing list on a ride!
Why it is important?
This could be start of new era - Where CIS supports Chapter financially whenever needed. (or in-kind as they did in past and hopefully will continue to do so).
So more and more volunteer efforts can be devoted for outreach/activities.
Please remember that chapter is representation of the community and
works for the community
Current scenario gives wrong interpretation and implies that community should not raise questions on transparency because after-all we are your representation! Either consult community before lying or speak (complete) truth.
Here is response from Sunil,CIS -
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related
expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a
training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in
Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising
a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this
when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
From Sunil's mail it is clear that Sunil
extended the offer in good-faith, unaware of Chapter-Board meeting falling at the same time. However Chapter also seems to have taken this opportunity and is now shy to accept. I don't understand why?
And why CIS was also kept in dark?
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will
also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the
training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
Along with 'air Travel', CIS is providing accommodation too.
And Last sentence about fee budget is interesting.
If Chapter is expecting public support for fundraising and other activities, then it should be more transparent and 'should avoid organized and dedicated efforts to misguide community/keep in dark.'
And Hope so CIS takes care of all the remaining Chapter financial needs as well, Just keep community in loop. And Thanks to Sunil/ CIS for being transparent and open.
Keep Clarifying, Keep Inspiring!
-Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sunil Abraham sunil@mahiti.org
Date: Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate To: Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com
Cc: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has
CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant.
CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial
years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their
financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly
suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related
expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a
training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in
Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising
a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this
when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of
the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual
consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for
this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to
address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how
we should structure this report or if you have any further questions
about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask
me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530
From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org
To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn:
Sudhanwa Jogalekar
Karthik Nadar
Anirudh Singh Bhati
Nikita Belavate
Pranav Curumsey
Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th
of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan
will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day
training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for
either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have
confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will
also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the
training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at
the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi
i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel
expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support
movement in India.
Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support as
per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so your
reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities
irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi,
On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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