Hi Gerard,
The discussion, if I am not mistaking, is on paid staffs from India
involved with indic wiki, while you're replying with your experience of
Netherland and also admit that you have no Idea of it in Indian context. Do
you think that your reply here does help readers in getting the issue
clearer? I really failed to link it with the topic even after reading it 3
times.
Also, you have mentioned that "real problem is its people" would you please
elaborate more on this without mentioning Wikidata or Netherland in your
explanation as you referred to people of India, not of Netherland. I have
felt it insulting for Indians and to me being of Indian origin and
contributor of Indic wiki, who had worked hard to get gu.ws out of
incubator.
Dhaval
On 30 Apr 2014 21:10, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hoi,
I am saying neither. When I describe the efforts by the paid staff of the
Dutch chapter, I find that they are really dedicated and deal with complex
issues where many people and organisations are involved. It takes a deep
understanding and availability in time and is very much supportive of what
the volunteers do.
This does not detract from the volunteers one bit, they are in fact
supported by the efforts from the Dutch chapter. The efforts by the paid
staff is very much concentrated on the things that the volunteers do not
take up. Consequently things get done and, that is what counts.
The volunteers are very dedicated in the things they do. The Dutch
volunteers brought you "Wiki loves monuments" for instance :)
Thanks,
GerardM
On 30 April 2014 21:53, Karthik Nadar <karthikndr(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gerard,
"/ It takes a full time effort of very
dedicated people."
I understand two points from this: 1. Either you say that the volunteer
community here is not dedicated?? 2. Or either the paid community is not
dedicated.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I'm, that's because you are going
off-topic.
Regards,
Karthik Nadar.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Ravi,
When I observe the activities of the Dutch chapter I find that they take
up things that volunteers are not able to. They are things that are often
complex and take a large network. What the Dutch chapter does for GLAM is
much more than reaching out to individual GLAM institutions. It takes a
full time effort of very dedicated people.
Your assumption that it is about building a better Wikipedia indicates
to me how limited your notion is about what it takes to "share in the sum
of all knowledge".
I do not know CIS enough to categorically state that they are in the
same league. What I have seen is however encouraging. What I do know and I
said it before, the challenges to bring the sum of all knowledge to India
is overwhelming. The biggest challenge apparently is people.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 30 April 2014 10:02, Ravishankar <ravidreams(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Vishnu,
Volunteers come and volunteers go. That is the nature of the movement.
Do you propose to build a better Wikipedia with paid staff?
Please try.
Ravi
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